And Then, Suu, There's The Women

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am going to mention that I would bet each of you guys a million bucks that my stalky creeper date from Saturday thinks of himself as "The Nice Guy" who always ends up being "The Friend" and can't understand why no one will date him even though he's "honest and open about his feelings".

EVERY SINGLE GUY I've ever met who is a creepy obsessive stalker/rapist type, and every misogynist, has at some point pulled out the put-upon "Nice Guy" routine, and that's why I don't trust it any closer than firing distance. It is absolutely nothing but an excuse to blame women for their problems. They'll have female friends for a while, and then they'll psycho-obsess on them, and then the female friend will run away, and it gets remanufactured into the sob story about how women won't date "The Friend" even though it would have been the most bestest awesome perfect dream come true ever. Because unlike the bad boys she dates, he would have been good to her, my precious.

I agree, which is why I said what I did.  You will have to be very very firm with him and word it in a way that brokes no questioning.  Otherwise you'll be hit with all the "what did I do wrong?" or "can't we be friends" bullshit.

Oh I was.  See the bar thread.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am going to mention that I would bet each of you guys a million bucks that my stalky creeper date from Saturday thinks of himself as "The Nice Guy" who always ends up being "The Friend" and can't understand why no one will date him even though he's "honest and open about his feelings".

EVERY SINGLE GUY I've ever met who is a creepy obsessive stalker/rapist type, and every misogynist, has at some point pulled out the put-upon "Nice Guy" routine, and that's why I don't trust it any closer than firing distance. It is absolutely nothing but an excuse to blame women for their problems. They'll have female friends for a while, and then they'll psycho-obsess on them, and then the female friend will run away, and it gets remanufactured into the sob story about how women won't date "The Friend" even though it would have been the most bestest awesome perfect dream come true ever. Because unlike the bad boys she dates, he would have been good to her, my precious.

But I am the Nice Guy That is why I built a shrine to every women who didn't love me back like she should have. Sadly, they all became memorials after they ran away and no one could find them.

[Luna]

Truth, Alty.

I know I do it.  Who I am can depend a great deal on who I am around.  Been working on that, to find out what is ME and how much of "me" is what got built by the NYEX.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am going to mention that I would bet each of you guys a million bucks that my stalky creeper date from Saturday thinks of himself as "The Nice Guy" who always ends up being "The Friend" and can't understand why no one will date him even though he's "honest and open about his feelings".

EVERY SINGLE GUY I've ever met who is a creepy obsessive stalker/rapist type, and every misogynist, has at some point pulled out the put-upon "Nice Guy" routine, and that's why I don't trust it any closer than firing distance. It is absolutely nothing but an excuse to blame women for their problems. They'll have female friends for a while, and then they'll psycho-obsess on them, and then the female friend will run away, and it gets remanufactured into the sob story about how women won't date "The Friend" even though it would have been the most bestest awesome perfect dream come true ever. Because unlike the bad boys she dates, he would have been good to her, my precious.

I can see that being the case a good chunk of the time. 

I know a certain someone who is a self-proclaimed "Nice Guy who finishes last and then gets shit on."

  WHAT WAS I THINKING.

You and Nigel, as always, have a point.  But I am by no means agreeing that this is always the case.  The real nice guys can be spotted by the fact that they are happily married and content with what they eventually found.

Bruce, on the other hand, will NEVER be happy, because he got stuck at age 12.  I can see how spending your entire life in puberty-driven angst would make anyone miserable.

But yeah, he is the prime example of the flaw in the catagory as proposed by me.   

Nigel's case is probably very similar, but I don't know the guy, so it doesn't resonate with me in the same way.

Yep. I know a shit-ton of very really for real nice guys, and they tend not to stay single long. Plus usually there's a queue of women just waiting to snatch them up should the lucky lass they're with be drowned in a kayaking accident.

[Doktor Howl]

Yep. I know a shit-ton of very really for real nice guys, and they tend not to stay single long. Plus usually there's a queue of women just waiting to snatch them up should the lucky lass they're with be drowned in a kayaking accident.

Yeah, we have those kayaking accidents here, too.   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

For what it's worth, I place myself in the "Braying jackass that's hard to get along with for any length of time" catagory.

I'm in the "Crazy in subtle ways that will eventually destroy your soul" category.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yep. I know a shit-ton of very really for real nice guys, and they tend not to stay single long. Plus usually there's a queue of women just waiting to snatch them up should the lucky lass they're with be drowned in a kayaking accident.

Yeah, we have those kayaking accidents here, too.   

[Doktor Howl]

I'm gonna give an example of the unattached nice guy:  Richter.

100% gentleman, witty, nice, has your back, can carry on a conversation.  

[Doktor Howl]

For what it's worth, I place myself in the "Braying jackass that's hard to get along with for any length of time" catagory.

I'm in the "Crazy in subtle ways that will eventually destroy your soul" category.

Except for the subtle part.   

Tucson hasn't been the same since you were here...It acts like a dawg that's been beat too much, now.  I'm all like "WHERE'S THE WEIRD?", and Tucson's like "shhhhhhh!  don't make any noise!"

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm gonna give an example of the unattached nice guy:  Richter.

100% gentleman, witty, nice, has your back, can carry on a conversation.  

I bet he's also selective, not desperate, not whiny, and periodically has to gently fend off women he's not interested in because he's waiting for the right one.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

For what it's worth, I place myself in the "Braying jackass that's hard to get along with for any length of time" catagory.

I'm in the "Crazy in subtle ways that will eventually destroy your soul" category.

Except for the subtle part.   

Tucson hasn't been the same since you were here...It acts like a dawg that's been beat too much, now.  I'm all like "WHERE'S THE WEIRD?", and Tucson's like "shhhhhhh!  don't make any noise!"

OK, you got me there.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Yep. I know a shit-ton of very really for real nice guys, and they tend not to stay single long. Plus usually there's a queue of women just waiting to snatch them up should the lucky lass they're with be drowned in a kayaking accident.

Yeah, we have those kayaking accidents here, too.   

I think I need to go to a different lake.....  

[Doktor Howl]

For what it's worth, I place myself in the "Braying jackass that's hard to get along with for any length of time" catagory.

I'm in the "Crazy in subtle ways that will eventually destroy your soul" category.

Except for the subtle part.   

Tucson hasn't been the same since you were here...It acts like a dawg that's been beat too much, now.  I'm all like "WHERE'S THE WEIRD?", and Tucson's like "shhhhhhh!  don't make any noise!"

OK, you got me there.

Plus, there's the cracked concrete and burned brick at the Meatrack.  They mop and they mop and the bloodstains always come back.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm gonna give an example of the unattached nice guy:  Richter.

100% gentleman, witty, nice, has your back, can carry on a conversation.  

I bet he's also selective, not desperate, not whiny, and periodically has to gently fend off women he's not interested in because he's waiting for the right one.

Well, there's that, and the fact that he's usually bristling with medieval weaponry.

[Thurnez Isa]

WHAT ABOUT ME!!!
IM SOMETIMES NICE... THOUGH CLUELESS
BUT I OWN EVERY GODZILLA MOVIE EVER, WHICH TRUMPS EVERY ONE OF MY UNDESIRABLE QUALITIES.