Oh dear fuck. I hate myself for even finding out about this.

[Jenne]

...THAT is some LOVELY necrosis going on there.  WHY people do this shit to themselves, I just don't get.  The agony must be so incredible.

I imagine it doesn't hurt, so long as they can get their crocodile.

The areas around the necrosis would hurt, my husband said.

While they're actually high?

Apparently, yes.

You CAN have painless necrosis, but that's a ...much later stage.  Like, last stage.

But if it's a heroin-like effect, I'm more than certain they wouldn't care.

I've had morphine injections twice (in the army), and while you CAN feel pain, you simply don't give a fuck.  It's over THERE, and you're over HERE.

I know how junkies get made, let's just put it that way.

heroin lasts much, much longer--this hit only lasts 30 minutes.

[Doktor Howl]

...THAT is some LOVELY necrosis going on there.  WHY people do this shit to themselves, I just don't get.  The agony must be so incredible.

I imagine it doesn't hurt, so long as they can get their crocodile.

The areas around the necrosis would hurt, my husband said.

While they're actually high?

Apparently, yes.

You CAN have painless necrosis, but that's a ...much later stage.  Like, last stage.

But if it's a heroin-like effect, I'm more than certain they wouldn't care.

I've had morphine injections twice (in the army), and while you CAN feel pain, you simply don't give a fuck.  It's over THERE, and you're over HERE.

I know how junkies get made, let's just put it that way.

heroin lasts much, much longer--this hit only lasts 30 minutes.

Yeah, but in that 30 minutes, they'd be able to stop thinking about their junk falling off.

[Jenne]

Yeah, but have you been on long-term narcotics?

What I'm saying is--decaying from the inside-out will not be numb THE WHOLE TIME because the parts that are DYING will still hurt.

How is this not understood?

The drugs wear off.  They leave behind pain, extreme pain, as well as withdrawal, so that hastens the going BACK to the drugs that are killing them.

It's a nice little vicious, flesh-eating cycle.

All because heroin's "so expensive," if you believe the article in the OP.

[Phox]

I hate all of you fucking bastardholes for making laugh at this thread. Seriously. I fucking hate you all.  

I guess I better explain myself again, then?

No, as you so eloquently put it in another thread, you gotta be you.

Also, if you can't laugh at Horror™, this ain't gonna be your century, is it?  Better go back to 1980 or so.

Well, I've been mostly looking at the Horror^TM people are inflicting on other people rather than the Horror^TM they inflict upon themselves this summer. Or rather, I've been looking at less direct self-inflicted Horror^TM. Now that I think about it, rotting yourself from the inside out may be better choice than sticking around for the next five years in the long run.... 

And miss all the fun?

Not ME. I'm looking forward to seeing how bad it can actually get. I'm betting Swift might get taken literally in the Novus Ordo Seclorum.  

[Doktor Howl]

The drugs wear off.  They leave behind pain, extreme pain, as well as withdrawal, so that hastens the going BACK to the drugs that are killing them.

It's a nice little vicious, flesh-eating cycle.

Let's just say that the junkies I know aren't exactly masters of planning ahead.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I posit - there's a rule about junkies. Kinda like a cross between Rule34 and Moores Law

Just when you think the latest wonderfix is as stupid/bad as it can possibly get - it will get stupider/worse

This kind of applies to politics as well, at least here in the United States of Crazytown.

Eventually we'll combine the two with risky, hypocritical sexual behavior, culminating in a candidate publicly railing against homosexuals and drugs while receiving a blowjob and shooting up.

Go back to reply 39 on page 3 for a good example of sane behavior in politicians, booze, and safeguarding your own genetic line, the republican way.

Saw it

I love how all these sick fucks seek redemption by saying "I have an addiction and I realize now that I need to seek help"

FUCK THEM.

I actually have very low tolerance for the "addiction as disease" model. There is zero evidence that addiction is a type of disease. A vicious cycle, sure, and one that people can be predisposed to due to circumstance and environment, but the evidence that it's genetic, or fits the definition of "disease" rather than "self-inflicted injury" is sketchy at best and more often than not is used as an excuse for bad behavior.

[Doktor Howl]

Not ME. I'm looking forward to seeing how bad it can actually get. I'm betting Swift might get taken literally in the Novus Ordo Seclorum.  

In about 20 years, is my guess.  And people will put up with it, they'll adjust, and pretty soon people in Mesa and Tempe will be explaining that we've ALWAYS eaten babies, that Jesus ate babies, and if it's good enough for Jesus, they're not going to listen to any liberals whine about it.

Mark my words.

[Phox]

Not ME. I'm looking forward to seeing how bad it can actually get. I'm betting Swift might get taken literally in the Novus Ordo Seclorum.  

In about 20 years, is my guess.  And people will put up with it, they'll adjust, and pretty soon people in Mesa and Tempe will be explaining that we've ALWAYS eaten babies, that Jesus ate babies, and if it's good enough for Jesus, they're not going to listen to any liberals whine about it.

Mark my words.

Marked.

[Doktor Howl]

I posit - there's a rule about junkies. Kinda like a cross between Rule34 and Moores Law

Just when you think the latest wonderfix is as stupid/bad as it can possibly get - it will get stupider/worse

This kind of applies to politics as well, at least here in the United States of Crazytown.

Eventually we'll combine the two with risky, hypocritical sexual behavior, culminating in a candidate publicly railing against homosexuals and drugs while receiving a blowjob and shooting up.

Go back to reply 39 on page 3 for a good example of sane behavior in politicians, booze, and safeguarding your own genetic line, the republican way.

Saw it

I love how all these sick fucks seek redemption by saying "I have an addiction and I realize now that I need to seek help"

FUCK THEM.

I actually have very low tolerance for the "addiction as disease" model. There is zero evidence that addiction is a type of disease. A vicious cycle, sure, and one that people can be predisposed to due to circumstance and environment, but the evidence that it's genetic, or fits the definition of "disease" rather than "self-inflicted injury" is sketchy at best and more often than not is used as an excuse for bad behavior.

I am willing to buy the "I can't stop myself from drinking", because I myself am addicted to tobacco.  I don't buy the "I drove a motor vehicle with my kids in it while sloshed because I have a sickness" line, though.

[Jenne]

The drugs wear off.  They leave behind pain, extreme pain, as well as withdrawal, so that hastens the going BACK to the drugs that are killing them.

It's a nice little vicious, flesh-eating cycle.

Let's just say that the junkies I know aren't exactly masters of planning ahead.

Yeah, I know.  The ones I know neither. 

I don't even what to think about let alone write about who starves along with them.

[Doktor Howl]

The drugs wear off.  They leave behind pain, extreme pain, as well as withdrawal, so that hastens the going BACK to the drugs that are killing them.

It's a nice little vicious, flesh-eating cycle.

Let's just say that the junkies I know aren't exactly masters of planning ahead.

Yeah, I know.  The ones I know neither. 

I don't even what to think about let alone write about who starves along with them.

What are you gonna do?  Save everyone all by yourself?

See, this sort of shit is the reason I support wholeheartedly RWHN's work, even if I disagree with him on prohibition.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I posit - there's a rule about junkies. Kinda like a cross between Rule34 and Moores Law

Just when you think the latest wonderfix is as stupid/bad as it can possibly get - it will get stupider/worse

This kind of applies to politics as well, at least here in the United States of Crazytown.

Eventually we'll combine the two with risky, hypocritical sexual behavior, culminating in a candidate publicly railing against homosexuals and drugs while receiving a blowjob and shooting up.

Go back to reply 39 on page 3 for a good example of sane behavior in politicians, booze, and safeguarding your own genetic line, the republican way.

Saw it

I love how all these sick fucks seek redemption by saying "I have an addiction and I realize now that I need to seek help"

FUCK THEM.

I actually have very low tolerance for the "addiction as disease" model. There is zero evidence that addiction is a type of disease. A vicious cycle, sure, and one that people can be predisposed to due to circumstance and environment, but the evidence that it's genetic, or fits the definition of "disease" rather than "self-inflicted injury" is sketchy at best and more often than not is used as an excuse for bad behavior.

I am willing to buy the "I can't stop myself from drinking", because I myself am addicted to tobacco.  I don't buy the "I drove a motor vehicle with my kids in it while sloshed because I have a sickness" line, though.

Right, it wouldn't be an addiction if it wasn't an addiction. It's when people use the "addiction as disease" concept to try to avoid social or legal condemnation for their actions that pisses me off.

[Doktor Howl]

I posit - there's a rule about junkies. Kinda like a cross between Rule34 and Moores Law

Just when you think the latest wonderfix is as stupid/bad as it can possibly get - it will get stupider/worse

This kind of applies to politics as well, at least here in the United States of Crazytown.

Eventually we'll combine the two with risky, hypocritical sexual behavior, culminating in a candidate publicly railing against homosexuals and drugs while receiving a blowjob and shooting up.

Go back to reply 39 on page 3 for a good example of sane behavior in politicians, booze, and safeguarding your own genetic line, the republican way.

Saw it

I love how all these sick fucks seek redemption by saying "I have an addiction and I realize now that I need to seek help"

FUCK THEM.

I actually have very low tolerance for the "addiction as disease" model. There is zero evidence that addiction is a type of disease. A vicious cycle, sure, and one that people can be predisposed to due to circumstance and environment, but the evidence that it's genetic, or fits the definition of "disease" rather than "self-inflicted injury" is sketchy at best and more often than not is used as an excuse for bad behavior.

I am willing to buy the "I can't stop myself from drinking", because I myself am addicted to tobacco.  I don't buy the "I drove a motor vehicle with my kids in it while sloshed because I have a sickness" line, though.

Right, it wouldn't be an addiction if it wasn't an addiction. It's when people use the "addiction as disease" concept to try to avoid social or legal condemnation for their actions that pisses me off.

Yep.  The correct reponse, since she HAD done something so colossally stupid is:

"I fucked up, so I'm resigning my position."

Same result, less annoying whimpering.

[BabylonHoruv]

I posit - there's a rule about junkies. Kinda like a cross between Rule34 and Moores Law

Just when you think the latest wonderfix is as stupid/bad as it can possibly get - it will get stupider/worse

This kind of applies to politics as well, at least here in the United States of Crazytown.

Eventually we'll combine the two with risky, hypocritical sexual behavior, culminating in a candidate publicly railing against homosexuals and drugs while receiving a blowjob and shooting up.

Go back to reply 39 on page 3 for a good example of sane behavior in politicians, booze, and safeguarding your own genetic line, the republican way.

Saw it

I love how all these sick fucks seek redemption by saying "I have an addiction and I realize now that I need to seek help"

FUCK THEM.

I actually have very low tolerance for the "addiction as disease" model. There is zero evidence that addiction is a type of disease. A vicious cycle, sure, and one that people can be predisposed to due to circumstance and environment, but the evidence that it's genetic, or fits the definition of "disease" rather than "self-inflicted injury" is sketchy at best and more often than not is used as an excuse for bad behavior.

I am willing to buy the "I can't stop myself from drinking", because I myself am addicted to tobacco.  I don't buy the "I drove a motor vehicle with my kids in it while sloshed because I have a sickness" line, though.

Right, it wouldn't be an addiction if it wasn't an addiction. It's when people use the "addiction as disease" concept to try to avoid social or legal condemnation for their actions that pisses me off.

Yep.  The correct reponse, since she HAD done something so colossally stupid is:

"I fucked up, so I'm resigning my position."

Same result, less annoying whimpering.

It looks like that is what she did, from the story.

[Doktor Howl]

It looks like that is what she did, from the story.

Learn to fucking read.