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Started by Doktor Howl, September 02, 2011, 04:33:09 PM

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Was Yatto here before Liam left? Was there any interaction between those two?
Or maybe he was just mad at Roger for not unbanning him and he figured he'd get Roger blamed.
He could have found them easily enough from my fb wall, or anybody else on his friends list who was also friends with them.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 04, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
Was Yatto here before Liam left? Was there any interaction between those two?
Or maybe he was just mad at Roger for not unbanning him and he figured he'd get Roger blamed.
He could have found them easily enough from my fb wall, or anybody else on his friends list who was also friends with them.



Are you fucking kidding me? Just give it up. There is zero evidence indicating that he porn spammed anyone and the whole thing is retardedly farfetched.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

I still don't think they're making it up, somebody did it. If not Yatto, CU or somebody else with a hardon for Roger.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I'm not saying that Bella faked it. I'm saying that Liam probably overreacted to someone posting/emailing tubgirl on one of his sites and they both went into paranoid spinout, which frankly, given their track record, is about ten thousand times more likely than Yatto for some mysterious reason porn spamming two randomly unrelated Discordians he had no beef with.

That, and there's absolutely nothing but some pretty obvious Lo5 action linking him to it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


BadBeast

Quote from: Nigel on September 04, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
I'm not saying that Bella faked it. I'm saying that Liam probably overreacted to someone posting/emailing tubgirl on one of his sites and they both went into paranoid spinout, which frankly, given their track record, is about ten thousand times more likely than Yatto for some mysterious reason porn spamming two randomly unrelated Discordians he had no beef with.

That, and there's absolutely nothing but some pretty obvious Lo5 action linking him to it.
I think Nigel's pretty much nailed it. This is the most plausible and likely scenario. If not this, then something very similar. Yatto might make some bad choices have here and there, but a malicious, Machiavellian master manipulator, he is not.

This mess, if it was a deliberate and concerted attack, would take more malice than Yatto's ever shown. Not just the stubborn belligerence I think motivated his actions.      
This, plus a combination of paranoia, chinese whispers, and bad timing, added to a certain degree of mistrust, posturing, and second guessing, . . . . and there's nearly enough material for another series of  of "Lost".
Many of us here are deeply flawed characters, with the propensity to get carried away in the moment. (Or maybe that's just me. . . . :lol:  ) No-one is ever going to know the whole story, so why not just roll with this most likely scenario? 
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Anna Mae Bollocks

An overreaction is plausible.

But if Yatto is completely without malice, why did he post "We are innocent We are cuteness Expect our poop!" on the heels of griping about being banned here?
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Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 04, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
An overreaction is plausible.

But if Yatto is completely without malice, why did he post "We are innocent We are cuteness Expect our poop!" on the heels of griping about being banned here?

I think that's just Yatto being Yatto.

Or

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Salty

I like Liam and Bella. I don't really care about Yatto.
But they want nothing to do with this place for a variety of reasons and Yatto is out for the count regardless of maybe sort of possible porn spamming on an unrelated social network website.
Sooooooooo..... :asshat:

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I think Liam was taking discordia to the wall and finally hit it, which culminated in his departure.

I never knew Bella very well, but I still deeply admire Liam's inspired nonsense. Everybody blows a gasket every once and a while--and it sounds like random events just exacerbated it.

I do hope he decides to return to our neck of the woods at some point. :(
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 04, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
An overreaction is plausible.

But if Yatto is completely without malice, why did he post "We are innocent We are cuteness Expect our poop!" on the heels of griping about being banned here?

... along with a link to the OpSafeKids page? I read that as a kind of dumb joke, a word play on the Anonymous thing. It didn't mean a fucking thing. If it did, why would he have posted it on YOUR wall along with the OpSafeKids link? That doesn't even make sense. He said that he saw you'd "liked" OpSafeKids, and made a comment about it along with the link. As far as I can tell, it has fuck-all to do with anything whatsoever. Until you Lo5 it to shoehorn it into some farfetched and totally cockamamie plot to alienate Liam and Bella from Roger by porn-spamming Liam's emails and websites.  :?

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: BadBeast on September 04, 2011, 07:01:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 04, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
I'm not saying that Bella faked it. I'm saying that Liam probably overreacted to someone posting/emailing tubgirl on one of his sites and they both went into paranoid spinout, which frankly, given their track record, is about ten thousand times more likely than Yatto for some mysterious reason porn spamming two randomly unrelated Discordians he had no beef with.

That, and there's absolutely nothing but some pretty obvious Lo5 action linking him to it.
I think Nigel's pretty much nailed it. This is the most plausible and likely scenario. If not this, then something very similar. Yatto might make some bad choices have here and there, but a malicious, Machiavellian master manipulator, he is not.

This mess, if it was a deliberate and concerted attack, would take more malice than Yatto's ever shown. Not just the stubborn belligerence I think motivated his actions.      
This, plus a combination of paranoia, chinese whispers, and bad timing, added to a certain degree of mistrust, posturing, and second guessing, . . . . and there's nearly enough material for another series of  of "Lost".
Many of us here are deeply flawed characters, with the propensity to get carried away in the moment. (Or maybe that's just me. . . . :lol:  ) No-one is ever going to know the whole story, so why not just roll with this most likely scenario? 


Pretty much this, exactly. At this point, hanging on to ways to justify the idea that "Yatto could have done it" is starting to get embarrassing, because of the high level of nonsensicalness. Also, it's gone from "Yatto porn spammed several of Dok's friends" to "Liam received some tubgirl and accused Dok of doing it, but because Yatto was butthurt about being banned let's blame him".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Triple Zero

Quote from: Net on September 04, 2011, 08:04:56 PM
I still deeply admire Liam's inspired nonsense

this is pretty much the reason why I'm withholding judgement on Liam.

his nonsense is just simply unparalleled.

but if he's really gone off the deep end it's a bloody shame and friends go first, but I'm really HOPING it doesn't have to be like that (even if he and Dok never talk again)
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I really liked Liam a lot. No opinion on Bella at all, I mean, I guess she seemed fine but she was kind of a non-player-character in my world. But right now I think we're playing a game of Starbuck's Pebbles, stringing together a bunch of unrelated things and looking for a pattern.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Phox

Quote from: Nigel on September 04, 2011, 09:00:43 PM
I really liked Liam a lot. No opinion on Bella at all, I mean, I guess she seemed fine but she was kind of a non-player-character in my world. But right now I think we're playing a game of Starbuck's Pebbles, stringing together a bunch of unrelated things and looking for a pattern.
I'm with Nigel on this.

The facts as we now them are:

1) Liam claimed to have been porn spammed. Bella backd him up.
2) Liam blamed Roger for it, and unfriended Hawk for no apparent reason.
3) Yatto was blamed based on a comment he had made on Stella's wall.

There is absolutely no connection between Stella and the Liam/Roger thing, except that Liam told her about it.

Yeah, this looks like some major Lo5 from where I'm sitting. 

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Shit, even Dok said a few pages back that it looked like the wrong conclusion, jumped to in the heat of temper and lots of confusion/unclear information about what exactly went down. That confusion and unclarity is exactly why I wanted to dissect it and figure out exactly what DID happen, because parts weren't adding up. I think that at this point we can safely dismiss it as a clusterfuck of misunderstanding, and let it go. I also, given all the info, kind of doubt the porn spam thing had anything to do with any of us here, although I wouldn't rule out CU.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."