Ron Paul

[Cramulus]

You could have switched "She's a witch." and "Burn her!" with the above Q&A and the mentality would have been no different.

heh, you're totally right.



I'm reading this book right now about the history of torture. (Richter's fault that I found it, btw)... one of the points they repeatedly make in the book is that in the history of public executions, it's often not the case that the leaders were these twisted sadistic fucks... it's that the CROWDS demanded the worst possible punishments for lawbreakers.

If a magistrate was seen as being too light on crime, it was very possible for the unruly mob to turn on him. The pillory, the breaking wheel, the ducking stool ... these weren't purely a tool of fear to keep the commoners from rising up. They were used to slake the public's demands for torture and death.

So having read that, I get quite a chill watching all these people cheering for the death penalty...

[Luna]

People, and I mean mobs, not always individuals, are sick, sadistic fucks. 

Watch a pack of second graders torment a nerdy kid, you'll see it.  People don't grow out of it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Western civilization is a monstrous cannibal. It lacks even the humanity of the Aztecs, who at least had the grace to formally ritualize their bloodlust.

[Jenne]

You could have switched "She's a witch." and "Burn her!" with the above Q&A and the mentality would have been no different.

heh, you're totally right.



I'm reading this book right now about the history of torture. (Richter's fault that I found it, btw)... one of the points they repeatedly make in the book is that in the history of public executions, it's often not the case that the leaders were these twisted sadistic fucks... it's that the CROWDS demanded the worst possible punishments for lawbreakers.

If a magistrate was seen as being too light on crime, it was very possible for the unruly mob to turn on him. The pillory, the breaking wheel, the ducking stool ... these weren't purely a tool of fear to keep the commoners from rising up. They were used to slake the public's demands for torture and death.

So having read that, I get quite a chill watching all these people cheering for the death penalty...

Please to be sharing, Cram, the name/author of this book?

[Cramulus]

The Big Book of Pain: Torture & Punishment Through History
by Mark P. Donnelly, Daniel Diehl

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Pain-Torture-Punishment/dp/0752459473/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316460826&sr=8-1


Richter actually knows the author.

It's 100% nightmare fuel. You read this book for the same reason you go see a horror movie. It's like the necronomicon of my coffee table... everybody that picks it up reels back in horror.

[Jenne]

The Big Book of Pain: Torture & Punishment Through History
by Mark P. Donnelly, Daniel Diehl

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Pain-Torture-Punishment/dp/0752459473/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316460826&sr=8-1


Richter actually knows the author.

It's 100% nightmare fuel. You read this book for the same reason you go see a horror movie. It's like the necronomicon of my coffee table... everybody that picks it up reels back in horror.

TY TY.  I read the Stiff book for the same reason. 

[Luna]

The Big Book of Pain: Torture & Punishment Through History
by Mark P. Donnelly, Daniel Diehl

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Pain-Torture-Punishment/dp/0752459473/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316460826&sr=8-1


Richter actually knows the author.

It's 100% nightmare fuel. You read this book for the same reason you go see a horror movie. It's like the necronomicon of my coffee table... everybody that picks it up reels back in horror.

I've got a slew of pictures of the guy up on my FB page, he gave a talk on the History of the Sword at the Steampunk World's Faire that was absolutely fascinating.  He had an actual period, historical rapier there that he showed us...  He grounded the tip on the pavement and BENT it to show that the flex was still good, I think they heard Richter and I both shit ourselves five rows back.

[Suu]

On the one hand, it is hard to feel sorry for someone who had the financial means to pay for health insurance and did not.  That is a little different than someone not being able to afford it, or being denied it due to "pre-existing conditions".

On the other hand, my exact reaction to such a person dying would be closer to "needless and easily prevented tragedy" than "fuck yeah, someone's gonna DIE!"

I think the proctor did a piss poor job and the question should have been asked differently.

Obviously, if you could have afforded and was offered insurance through your employer and denied it, well, imo, that's your own fucking fault. But what SHOULD have been asked was a struggling single parent who's working 2 full time jobs at a retail establishment that doesn't offer healthcare. You gotta yank the heartstrings correctly.

...I still don't like Ron Paul, but I think that he got confused on that one. The crowd, on the other hand, has no fucking excuse for their behavior.

[Luna]

...I still don't like Ron Paul, but I think that he got confused on that one. The crowd, on the other hand, has no fucking excuse for their behavior.

However, despite the fact that this shit made headlines, I've not seen anything from Ron Paul's office saying SHIT about the people in the crowd cheering the (hypothetical) death.

[Doktor Howl]

...I still don't like Ron Paul, but I think that he got confused on that one. The crowd, on the other hand, has no fucking excuse for their behavior.

However, despite the fact that this shit made headlines, I've not seen anything from Ron Paul's office saying SHIT about the people in the crowd cheering the (hypothetical) death.

And that is a deliberate statement.

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So having read that, I get quite a chill watching all these people cheering for the death penalty...

I'm cheering for the execution of Lawrence Russell Brewer, one of the three white supremists who dragged James Byrd Jr. to death.

<- That's me.

I just wish it was done with one of those old-fangled nasty contraptions rather than lethal injection.

[Doktor Howl]

On the one hand, it is hard to feel sorry for someone who had the financial means to pay for health insurance and did not.  That is a little different than someone not being able to afford it, or being denied it due to "pre-existing conditions".

On the other hand, my exact reaction to such a person dying would be closer to "needless and easily prevented tragedy" than "fuck yeah, someone's gonna DIE!"

I think the proctor did a piss poor job and the question should have been asked differently.

Obviously, if you could have afforded and was offered insurance through your employer and denied it, well, imo, that's your own fucking fault. But what SHOULD have been asked was a struggling single parent who's working 2 full time jobs at a retail establishment that doesn't offer healthcare. You gotta yank the heartstrings correctly.

...I still don't like Ron Paul, but I think that he got confused on that one. The crowd, on the other hand, has no fucking excuse for their behavior.

I don't think he was confused at all.  I think he meant exactly what he said.

Ron Paul is an evil old racist bastard of a constitution-fucker that should be strapped across a cannon.

[Doktor Howl]

So having read that, I get quite a chill watching all these people cheering for the death penalty...

I'm cheering for the execution of Lawrence Russell Brewer, one of the three white supremists who dragged James Byrd Jr. to death.

<- That's me.

I just wish it was done with one of those old-fangled nasty contraptions rather than lethal injection.

Yes, emotionally-driven things like this are the best way to run a nation.

[Cain]

And its between him, Huntsman and Romney as to which Republican has most regular contact with reality.

[Doktor Howl]

And its between him, Huntsman and Romney as to which Republican has most regular contact with reality.

I'm gonna say Romney.

Who is also LEAST likely to get the nomination.  Because our Overton Window is now centered on "Barking Fucking Mad".