Occupy

[The Rev]

 

I think the Occupy Movement is starting to frighten them.

[The Wizard Joseph]

NYPD leaves big assed Marine the hell alone.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/17/us-marine-stands-up-to-the-nypd-at-occupy-wall-street-protests/

Sharing this on FB.  The look on those officer's faces is almost as awesome as the rage in his voice!

[The Rev]

THIS MAY BE HOW TO FIX CONGRESS... WITH ENOUGH PUBLIC PRESSURE.

Warren Buffett, in an interview with CNBC said this about the debt ceiling: We can end the deficit in 5 minutes... all we have to do is "pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! WHY? THE PEOPLE DEMANDED IT and that was in 1971 way before computers... email... cells phones... twitter... etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - ALL BECAUSE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE.

PLEASE CONSIDER DEMANDING THESE CHANGES... AND PLEASE SHARE

CONGRESSIONAL REFORM ACT OF 2011

1) No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2) Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.
It may not be used for any other purpose.

3) Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4) Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by CPI or 3%, whichever is lower.

5) Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6) Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7) All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen/women;
Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, it should not be a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work - our Presidents do.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Good-Day...4517013262

[Cramulus]

NYPD leaves big assed Marine the hell alone.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/17/us-marine-stands-up-to-the-nypd-at-occupy-wall-street-protests/

Keith Olbermann interviewed him the other day ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrnU5KGKHz8

[Golden Applesauce]

THIS MAY BE HOW TO FIX CONGRESS... WITH ENOUGH PUBLIC PRESSURE.

Warren Buffett, in an interview with CNBC said this about the debt ceiling: We can end the deficit in 5 minutes... all we have to do is "pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! WHY? THE PEOPLE DEMANDED IT and that was in 1971 way before computers... email... cells phones... twitter... etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - ALL BECAUSE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE.

PLEASE CONSIDER DEMANDING THESE CHANGES... AND PLEASE SHARE

CONGRESSIONAL REFORM ACT OF 2011

1) No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2) Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.
It may not be used for any other purpose.

3) Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4) Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by CPI or 3%, whichever is lower.

5) Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6) Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7) All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen/women;
Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, it should not be a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work - our Presidents do.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Good-Day...4517013262

Seems irrelevant, tbh.  I wouldn't be completely against some kind of reasonable term limit for congressmen, but that's a (mostly) unrelated issue.  Making being a senator pay less just makes it even harder for people who aren't independently wealthy in the first place to run.  The problem isn't that congressmen have money, but that people with money have congressmen.

IIRC, the Roman senators were expected to serve more for honor than for money, and they developed some of the most blatantly corrupt practices ever (literally selling the taxpayer to the highest lowest bidder, and then bailing out the people who over-bid.)  See: Publicani.

[Don Coyote]

On a different note

Don't Need:

   Tarps
   Plastic sheeting
   Toilet Paper
   Mustard
   Peanut butter
   Bread
   Styrofoam plates

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

On a different note

Don't Need:

   Tarps
   Plastic sheeting
   Toilet Paper
   Mustard
   Peanut butter
   Bread
   Styrofoam plates

I don't know why that's so fucking funny, but it is.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Occupy Seattle cuts the mustard.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

I have befriended an Occupy Portland protester who is hooking me up with access to a screen printing studio. I also fist-bumped a Communist and voted in the General Assembly.

On the way back from Occupy Portland headquarters a member of our group stopped to literally piss on a bank. I thought it was quite civilly disobedient of him.

Here's a shot of the main encampment some time last week, late at night:

[Don Coyote]

On a different note

Don't Need:

   Tarps
   Plastic sheeting
   Toilet Paper
   Mustard
   Peanut butter
   Bread
   Styrofoam plates

I don't know why that's so fucking funny, but it is.

Next pay day I am having several jars of mustard sent to them.

And then a few packages of boot socks. They need warm socks.

[Laughin Jude]

The Portland GA is pretty much mired in bureaucracy and feel-good hippie bullshit where everyone is included (except when they're not), all points of view are considered (except when they're not), the process is always open to reinterpretation and refinement (except when it's not) and nothing really seems to ever get done. It's just Congress all over again and pretty much worthless.

The committees are the ones keeping it going; them, and just random awesome people doing shit on their own. But yeah, the GA system seems horribly, laughably broken here from what I've seen the past week.

[Pæs]

Occupy Wellington is a small collection of barefooted hippiemutants exchanging buzzwords.

"Oligarchy peak oil, Orwell?"

"Mm," followed by a bunch of approving nods, "Capitalism bankers recession conspiracy. ELECTRIC CARS. Right?"

"DUDE, YOU TOTALLY GET IT. WANNA HEAR THE TWO GUITAR CHORDS I KNOW?"

[Triple Zero]

THIS MAY BE HOW TO FIX CONGRESS... WITH ENOUGH PUBLIC PRESSURE.

Warren Buffett, in an interview with CNBC said this about the debt ceiling: We can end the deficit in 5 minutes... all we have to do is "pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! WHY? THE PEOPLE DEMANDED IT and that was in 1971 way before computers... email... cells phones... twitter... etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - ALL BECAUSE OF PUBLIC PRESSURE.

PLEASE CONSIDER DEMANDING THESE CHANGES... AND PLEASE SHARE

CONGRESSIONAL REFORM ACT OF 2011

1) No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2) Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.
It may not be used for any other purpose.

3) Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4) Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by CPI or 3%, whichever is lower.

5) Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6) Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7) All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen/women;
Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, it should not be a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work - our Presidents do.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Good-Day...4517013262

Seems irrelevant, tbh.  I wouldn't be completely against some kind of reasonable term limit for congressmen, but that's a (mostly) unrelated issue.  Making being a senator pay less just makes it even harder for people who aren't independently wealthy in the first place to run.  The problem isn't that congressmen have money, but that people with money have congressmen.

IIRC, the Roman senators were expected to serve more for honor than for money, and they developed some of the most blatantly corrupt practices ever (literally selling the taxpayer to the highest lowest bidder, and then bailing out the people who over-bid.)  See: Publicani.

TURNS OUT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT TOO:::

http://blog.dutiee.com/robinhood-tax-bill-gates-warren-buffet-and-millions-worldwide-plan-worlds-biggest-bank-job/
Robin Hood Tax: Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Millions Worldwide Plan the World's Biggest Bank Job

[Cain]

Technically that is called a Tobin Tax, and I've supported something like that for a while now.  It is very small, as you can see (0.05%) yet the additional revenue raised from it is quite extensive, and would go a long way to solving spending issues and paying off sovereign debt.

[Luna]

Except, of course, the banks are already gearing up to pass the tax on to their customers, I'm sure.