I'll just leave this here....

[AFK]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!?!!?!

[East Coast Hustle]

Along with not bullshitting Roger about the constitution, you probably shouldn't try to bullshit me about the marijuana industry.

Really?  Given that you didn't know the existence of a national marijuana industry lobbying organization that has enough swing to sit along side Congressmen at the National Press Club?  Yeah, you're right, I can't get anything past you. 

Steve DeAngelo is pretty legit, and his presence explains why they were given this level of access. That said, they've got a VERY long way to go to be called a "powerful lobby" (your words), and given their apparent lack of links to other better-established marijuana-related organizations I'm not holding my breath. I'm not even sure if I wish them luck, as it seems more like an attempt to co-opt the industry than an attempt to be inclusive and look out for the interests of the farmers, retailers, and processors that make up the majority of the legal marijuana industry.

Point is, you're still so fucking far off base about there being a "powerful marijuana lobby" that it's laughable.

[Kai]

I believe that RWHN once implied that he has an MPH, back when he was telling me that my public-health-expert friend was "misinformed" about drugs and public health.

I'm not asking where it's from because it doesn't matter, and any notion that the information could lead to your personal identity information is nonsensical. But, because you have so often strongly based many of your arguments on your status as an expert, and have asked us to accept them based on your credibility as an expert, I would appreciate a direct answer to the question about your education and credentials, RWHN.

What degree do you hold?

I don't hold my degree, it's on a wall. 

I got it from Klown University. 

Maybe you'll not answer her seriously, but I'm interested. Considering I have taken a great deal of what you've said on word due to your stated education and experience. And from a fellow graduate degree holder to another. Because my credentials have always been clear, and I would post my CV here if I wasn't sure an employer turning up things I've said here in a google search of my name would make me unemployable. And if you won't answer me seriously, I'll stop taking you seriously, despite your history here. That's all there is to it. Because I've taken into account you are on the defensive against multiple people, but keeping that in mind there are still some weird things going on in your argument. All I want is a confirmation of a graduate degree in [whatever it was you got it in] from [region of North America]. I'll go first: I have a MS in Entomology from a university in the Southeastern United States. With my initials and a bit of searching you should be able to find out my legal name, my professional blog, and everything else about me (it's not like many first names start with 'z'). You can confirm mine, and I'm not asking the same of you, just that you state it for the record.

[East Coast Hustle]

Oh, and I totally made up the part about asking my friend. That's why I used the name of a registered legitimate care service that anyone could check on if they wanted to without much difficulty.

[East Coast Hustle]

He won't give you a straight answer, Kai.

You see, he lacks the integrity to admit that he doesn't have an education in the field he purports to work in, but somehow he still has enough integrity not to take the easy way out and just make up a degree and university.

Impressive, in a way, but for all the wrong reasons.

[Kai]

He won't give you a straight answer, Kai.

You see, he lacks the integrity to admit that he doesn't have an education in the field he purports to work in, but somehow he still has enough integrity not to take the easy way out and just make up a degree and university.

Impressive, in a way, but for all the wrong reasons.

I'll keep my civility and let him answer for himself, TYVM.

[East Coast Hustle]

I admire your optimism.

I, however, feel that in light of what he's posted ITT I am already displaying a remarkable level of civility.

I mean, most people who accused me of fishing for PI on my own site would find out exactly how good I can be at doing just that.

[AFK]

I believe that RWHN once implied that he has an MPH, back when he was telling me that my public-health-expert friend was "misinformed" about drugs and public health.

I'm not asking where it's from because it doesn't matter, and any notion that the information could lead to your personal identity information is nonsensical. But, because you have so often strongly based many of your arguments on your status as an expert, and have asked us to accept them based on your credibility as an expert, I would appreciate a direct answer to the question about your education and credentials, RWHN.

What degree do you hold?

I don't hold my degree, it's on a wall. 

I got it from Klown University. 

Maybe you'll not answer her seriously, but I'm interested. Considering I have taken a great deal of what you've said on word due to your stated education and experience. And from a fellow graduate degree holder to another. Because my credentials have always been clear, and I would post my CV here if I wasn't sure an employer turning up things I've said here in a google search of my name would make me unemployable. And if you won't answer me seriously, I'll stop taking you seriously, despite your history here. That's all there is to it. Because I've taken into account you are on the defensive against multiple people, but keeping that in mind there are still some weird things going on in your argument. All I want is a confirmation of a graduate degree in [whatever it was you got it in] from [region of North America]. I'll go first: I have a MS in Entomology from a university in the Southeastern United States. With my initials and a bit of searching you should be able to find out my legal name, my professional blog, and everything else about me (it's not like many first names start with 'z'). You can confirm mine, and I'm not asking the same of you, just that you state it for the record.

Check your PMs. 

[Kai]

I'm not going to report the credentials, out of respect, but I believe them; he has the experience he says. Which, despite the lack of communication taking place in this thread, should be already obvious to the people who have known him for the past 5+ years. You may not agree with his premise, opinions, or conclusions, but he's not a troll and he's not speaking without experience of public policy.

And that's all I have to say. Carry on, or whatever.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm not going to report the credentials, out of respect, but I believe them; he has the experience he says. Which, despite the lack of communication taking place in this thread, should be already obvious to the people who have known him for the past 5+ years. You may not agree with his premise, opinions, or conclusions, but he's not a troll and he's not speaking without experience of public policy.

And that's all I have to say. Carry on, or whatever.

In other words, he actually does the job he claims to do, but doesn't have a degree in a related field. Which really extra makes his pooh-poohing of my MPH friend's opinion that much funnier.



Sorry, but even if I agreed with his opinions, I'd still think the guy's a total dick.

[Kai]

I'm not going to report the credentials, out of respect, but I believe them; he has the experience he says. Which, despite the lack of communication taking place in this thread, should be already obvious to the people who have known him for the past 5+ years. You may not agree with his premise, opinions, or conclusions, but he's not a troll and he's not speaking without experience of public policy.

And that's all I have to say. Carry on, or whatever.

In other words, he actually does the job he claims to do, but doesn't have a degree in a related field. Which really extra makes his pooh-poohing of my MPH friend's opinion that much funnier.



Sorry, but even if I agreed with his opinions, I'd still think the guy's a total dick.

No, he has the degrees.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm not going to report the credentials, out of respect, but I believe them; he has the experience he says. Which, despite the lack of communication taking place in this thread, should be already obvious to the people who have known him for the past 5+ years. You may not agree with his premise, opinions, or conclusions, but he's not a troll and he's not speaking without experience of public policy.

And that's all I have to say. Carry on, or whatever.

In other words, he actually does the job he claims to do, but doesn't have a degree in a related field. Which really extra makes his pooh-poohing of my MPH friend's opinion that much funnier.



Sorry, but even if I agreed with his opinions, I'd still think the guy's a total dick.

No, he has the degrees.

Thanks for actually SAYING it, since he's too slippery to do it himself. I still want to know on what basis he claims that my friend's public health graduate degree (and extensive background actually working in public health, including at-risk youth) is "misinformation".

That was the exact moment I went from kinda liking the guy even though I don't agree with him, to realizing that he will say anything (and evade anything) to try to maintain his position, however baseless.

[East Coast Hustle]

Can't just tell us all what your degree is? Pretty weak, man. I'm not convinced you're telling the truth to Kai at all. If you are, why wouldn't you tell the rest of us?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Can't just tell us all what your degree is? Pretty weak, man. I'm not convinced you're telling the truth to Kai at all. If you are, why wouldn't you tell the rest of us?

I don't see him outright lying... misleading, circular, irrational and evasive he may be, but I haven't seen him actually lie.

[East Coast Hustle]

Can't just tell us all what your degree is? Pretty weak, man. I'm not convinced you're telling the truth to Kai at all. If you are, why wouldn't you tell the rest of us?

Oh, that's right. I'm fishing for your personal information. that I could have anytime I wanted anyway. And couldn't be less interested in.



In case you hadn't noticed, that accusation completely changed the nature of our relationship. And since I doubt you'd ever offer an apology and I wouldn't believe it was sincere if you did, I hope you weren't planning on ever starting another serious thread here again because I will take extra special care to shit all over any thread you start.

can you feel the love?

ECH,
All-time champion grudge-holder