I'll just leave this here....

[Triple Zero]

I will note that the pattern across ages looks to be pretty much the same.  So I can roughly say that culture doesn't seem to be an impact in terms of substance abuse and development.

Huh, I don't quite see how that follows?

I mean, the pattern is, the numbers go up with age. Which for the blue line is logical because "have you ever used pot" is cumulative, it would indicate an error if it went down For the green line it's not necessarily cumulative, but I notice that the curve seems to flatten, I expect for older ages to go up a littlebit further, and then go down because (anecdotal, but probably supported by numbers somewhere) people tend to stop smoking pot as they near 30 (roughly, pulling that age anecdotally out of my ass).

As to why your rates are lower?  That's a good question.  I wouldn't pretend to know why.

Maybe the site I got the numbers from has some data on that too. I'll have a look later.

Yeah, that's how it works in theory.  Otherwise, it makes you or .

Did it do that for you? I suppose it's possible because these messing-with-your-brain-meds are always kind of tricky, because brains are quite unique.

That's too bad, though there are many different SSRI meds, and they might not all have that effect on you. From my own experience, I was on welbutrin for a while and it made me so extremely grumpy and short tempered I quit it very quickly (even before the 4-6 week period was over, as it was really badly affecting my relationship with good friends and girlfriend).

Methamphetamine is a specific type of amphetamine, in which the molecule has a methyl group attached to its nitrogen group. Amphetamine is be used to treat ADHD under the brand name Dexedrine. Methylphenidate, which acts similarly to amphetamine but is a phenidate molecule with a methyl group, is also used to treat ADHD under the brand name Ritalin. Methamphetamine is prescribed under the brand name Desoxyn, just much more rarely.

These are three different molecules, and although they are similar in some ways they do have different effects.

As far as I understood (though I could be wrong), Ritalin/methylphenidate actually kind of works similar to an SSRI, in the sense that it lowers the reuptake of dopamine, while the amphetamines directly stimulate the production of it.

Dopamine (as you probably know) is the sort of activity/concentration stimulating brain chemical which helps ADHD people focus and filter impulses while it makes neurotypical people speedy and tweaky and studying really hard like awesome-coffee (I'm sure Nigel already knows this but I'm just stating it for the benefit of others).

[AFK]

I will note that the pattern across ages looks to be pretty much the same.  So I can roughly say that culture doesn't seem to be an impact in terms of substance abuse and development.

Huh, I don't quite see how that follows?

I mean, the pattern is, the numbers go up with age. Which for the blue line is logical because "have you ever used pot" is cumulative, it would indicate an error if it went down For the green line it's not necessarily cumulative, but I notice that the curve seems to flatten, I expect for older ages to go up a littlebit further, and then go down because (anecdotal, but probably supported by numbers somewhere) people tend to stop smoking pot as they near 30 (roughly, pulling that age anecdotally out of my ass).

No, I understand the pattern.  What I'm saying is that the pattern here in the States is pretty much the same.  The 30 day use is a little more pronounced here in the States because the numbers are higher, but they follow the same general trend.  So I'm saying in terms of how use develops through this particular age span there doesn't seem to be a vast cultural difference between the two countries, other than the overall numbers being higher in the States. 

Does that make any better sense? 

[Freeky]

Yeah, that's how it works in theory.  Otherwise, it makes you or .

Did it do that for you? I suppose it's possible because these messing-with-your-brain-meds are always kind of tricky, because brains are quite unique.

That's too bad, though there are many different SSRI meds, and they might not all have that effect on you. From my own experience, I was on welbutrin for a while and it made me so extremely grumpy and short tempered I quit it very quickly (even before the 4-6 week period was over, as it was really badly affecting my relationship with good friends and girlfriend).

Yeah, Citalopram made me do the .  They had me on Lexapro before that, which I quit before the trial period was up because it made my head problems worse.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This thread is dildos.

In case anyone hasn't figured it out.

[Freeky]

Well, yes.  But I thought everyone loves a good dildo?  Isn't that why all the boys scream when I get them alone?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well, yes.  But I thought everyone loves a good dildo?  Isn't that why all the boys scream when I get them alone?

It's the Knobby Bits™ that get them.

[Freeky]

Well, yes.  But I thought everyone loves a good dildo?  Isn't that why all the boys scream when I get them alone?

It's the Knobby Bits™ that get them.

And there was me spending all that extra time lovingly making them all serrated.  You can't find them that way, you know, you have to do it yourself.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, dopamine helps to "wake up" the depressed portions of the frontal lobe in people with ADHD so that it functions at a normal level. This is why they still have the same body reaction to these stimulants (suppressed appetite, sleeplessness, increased heart rate) but their mental reaction is so much different.

[East Coast Hustle]

I imagine that, all snark and vitriol aside, the casino issue is one in which you and I find ourselves in complete agreement.

I'd like to find the people responsible for it and give them all the bastinado.

Heh, NOPE.  I voted FOR the casino. 

Oh, WOW. How the FUCK do you make that jibe with your desire to reduce substance abuse in communities?

That's some first-class hypocrisy there.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

We now return you to the Jay Z song already in progress.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I will note that the pattern across ages looks to be pretty much the same.  So I can roughly say that culture doesn't seem to be an impact in terms of substance abuse and development.

Huh, I don't quite see how that follows?

I mean, the pattern is, the numbers go up with age. Which for the blue line is logical because "have you ever used pot" is cumulative, it would indicate an error if it went down For the green line it's not necessarily cumulative, but I notice that the curve seems to flatten, I expect for older ages to go up a littlebit further, and then go down because (anecdotal, but probably supported by numbers somewhere) people tend to stop smoking pot as they near 30 (roughly, pulling that age anecdotally out of my ass).

No, I understand the pattern.  What I'm saying is that the pattern here in the States is pretty much the same.  The 30 day use is a little more pronounced here in the States because the numbers are higher, but they follow the same general trend.  So I'm saying in terms of how use develops through this particular age span there doesn't seem to be a vast cultural difference between the two countries, other than the overall numbers being higher in the States. 

Does that make any better sense? 

But if your view that legalization for adults would raise usage in kids, shouldn't Trips graph looks much different?

I mean if we just look at the data presented here, one would have to think that the legal status may not actually affect youth abuse. Or am I misreading something?

[Telarus]

Celexa (time-released methamphetamine)

Wait, what?    Are you sure about that?  

celexa is nothing like methamphetamine.

Well... the effects anyway i have no knowledge of the science.

You are correct. I was thinking Concerta, which is time-released methelphenidate.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I will note that the pattern across ages looks to be pretty much the same.  So I can roughly say that culture doesn't seem to be an impact in terms of substance abuse and development.

Huh, I don't quite see how that follows?

I mean, the pattern is, the numbers go up with age. Which for the blue line is logical because "have you ever used pot" is cumulative, it would indicate an error if it went down For the green line it's not necessarily cumulative, but I notice that the curve seems to flatten, I expect for older ages to go up a littlebit further, and then go down because (anecdotal, but probably supported by numbers somewhere) people tend to stop smoking pot as they near 30 (roughly, pulling that age anecdotally out of my ass).

No, I understand the pattern.  What I'm saying is that the pattern here in the States is pretty much the same.  The 30 day use is a little more pronounced here in the States because the numbers are higher, but they follow the same general trend.  So I'm saying in terms of how use develops through this particular age span there doesn't seem to be a vast cultural difference between the two countries, other than the overall numbers being higher in the States. 

Does that make any better sense? 

But if your view that legalization for adults would raise usage in kids, shouldn't Trips graph looks much different?

I mean if we just look at the data presented here, one would have to think that the legal status may not actually affect youth abuse. Or am I misreading something?

The data certainly would seem to indicate that fewer children use it in a place where it's legal for adults and controlled.

[AFK]

I imagine that, all snark and vitriol aside, the casino issue is one in which you and I find ourselves in complete agreement.

I'd like to find the people responsible for it and give them all the bastinado.

Heh, NOPE.  I voted FOR the casino. 

Oh, WOW. How the FUCK do you make that jibe with your desire to reduce substance abuse in communities?

That's some first-class hypocrisy there.

YOUTH substance abuse. 

[BabylonHoruv]

I imagine that, all snark and vitriol aside, the casino issue is one in which you and I find ourselves in complete agreement.

I'd like to find the people responsible for it and give them all the bastinado.

Heh, NOPE.  I voted FOR the casino. 

Oh, WOW. How the FUCK do you make that jibe with your desire to reduce substance abuse in communities?

That's some first-class hypocrisy there.

YOUTH substance abuse. 

and allowing it for adults doesn't send the wrong message?