Anon Ups the Ante

[Telarus]

Anon has made some interesting waves this week.

First off, they have claimed to ID the Oakland PD officer which shot Scott Olsen.

http://www.indiepundit.com/2011/10/29/iraq-war-vet-scott-olsen-police-shooter-identified-by-anonymous/

Next up (Cain, want to weigh in on this one?)

Anon has threatened the Zeta Cartel of Mexico (who have kidnapped an Anon member off the streets for postering activity). If the kidnapped Anon is harmed or not released they say they will start releasing full Dox on local community members (businessmen, journalist, etc) who are in the pay or have paid off the Zetas.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Online-hackers-threaten-to-expose-cartel-secrets-2242068.php

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Very, very interesting!

[Disco Pickle]

Fucking hell..  My kid's in Veracruz.  I thought they were mostly keeping a low profile in the gulf cities.

It's not a very big city at all, not by any standard, but is still the biggest port in Mexico. 

What the hell do they hope to accomplish by fucking around in Veracruz?  Land based trafficking is still their best method.  I've been through a customs check on board a vessel in Mexico.  Unless you have that shit strapped under the hull, they're going to find it.



Fucking cartels.

[Disco Pickle]

Hour talk with my son's mother.  They're getting really ballsy.  She's afraid to take taxis now because the Zetas (or whoever) are buying them off.  They can hear gun shots across the lagoon they live on some nights.  They don't even trust the police that patrol their neighborhood anymore.  They don't leave the house at night unless they have to.

She pointed me here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Balaceras-En-Veracruz/230586906974093

for those with facebook, and can read Spanish. 

I'll give it to them.  The people and friends I made in Veracruz, the vibe I got from the people I met there, they aren't the sort to be cowed.  They're the sort that would become a part of the "acciones anti narcos" that are returning heads of Zetas members. 

Fucking hell.  I understood Calderon's reasoning, and even support it with regards to stopping the flow of cocaine.  I'm ambivalent on the pot, but I understand it is still a driving force for cash to fund the cartels.

Looking at ways now to get my son out of the country.  Thanks for the post Tel.  I got distracted from the important stuff for a bit.

[Kai]

Anon has made some interesting waves this week.

First off, they have claimed to ID the Oakland PD officer which shot Scott Olsen.

http://www.indiepundit.com/2011/10/29/iraq-war-vet-scott-olsen-police-shooter-identified-by-anonymous/

Next up (Cain, want to weigh in on this one?)

Anon has threatened the Zeta Cartel of Mexico (who have kidnapped an Anon member off the streets for postering activity). If the kidnapped Anon is harmed or not released they say they will start releasing full Dox on local community members (businessmen, journalist, etc) who are in the pay or have paid off the Zetas.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Online-hackers-threaten-to-expose-cartel-secrets-2242068.php

This is amazing. Do you think they can follow through?

[Cain]

Anon may want to think again if they're going to mess with Los Zetas.

Even the hint of compromised financial data concerning the backers of the Zetas is going to bring down their wrath.  And, well, unlike everyone else Anonymous has picked on so far, Los Zeta don't have rules.  They're former Mexican Special Forces, federal paramilitaries and the like who decided working for the cartels was more profitable than working for the state.  You think offing a few dozen script-kiddie wannabe hackers is even going to give them pause for thought?  They were probably shooting unarmed people to death before they decided to go mercenary. They've systematically betrayed and destoyed some of the most entrenched cartels in order to reach the top, to the point I'm beginning to wonder if they're not a deniable Mexican government op.

Anonymous are in over their depth.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Anon may want to think again if they're going to mess with Los Zetas.

Even the hint of compromised financial data concerning the backers of the Zetas is going to bring down their wrath.  And, well, unlike everyone else Anonymous has picked on so far, Los Zeta don't have rules.  They're former Mexican Special Forces, federal paramilitaries and the like who decided working for the cartels was more profitable than working for the state.  You think offing a few dozen script-kiddie wannabe hackers is even going to give them pause for thought?  They were probably shooting unarmed people to death before they decided to go mercenary. They've systematically betrayed and destoyed some of the most entrenched cartels in order to reach the top, to the point I'm beginning to wonder if they're not a deniable Mexican government op.

Anonymous are in over their depth.

I am not so sure. I think that Anonymous has absorbed some pretty serious people, and their people, in the last year. I think that challenging the Zetas may be a baby step for some of the people currently identifying as Anonymous, and that things will  get more serious in the upcoming year.

[Faust]

Anon may want to think again if they're going to mess with Los Zetas.

Even the hint of compromised financial data concerning the backers of the Zetas is going to bring down their wrath.  And, well, unlike everyone else Anonymous has picked on so far, Los Zeta don't have rules.  They're former Mexican Special Forces, federal paramilitaries and the like who decided working for the cartels was more profitable than working for the state.  You think offing a few dozen script-kiddie wannabe hackers is even going to give them pause for thought?  They were probably shooting unarmed people to death before they decided to go mercenary. They've systematically betrayed and destoyed some of the most entrenched cartels in order to reach the top, to the point I'm beginning to wonder if they're not a deniable Mexican government op.

Anonymous are in over their depth.

I am not so sure. I think that Anonymous has absorbed some pretty serious people, and their people, in the last year. I think that challenging the Zetas may be a baby step for some of the people currently identifying as Anonymous, and that things will  get more serious in the upcoming year.

I think you are giving them way too much credit, even lulzsec which was lightyears ahead of anon could only muster up strength on a cause by cause basis and even that was sporadic at best.

[Dalek]

Anon do well when they're well organized. Sure, they've got plenty of script-kiddies and other 1337 H4x0rs, but there are some really good hackers working with them. But that only happens when they unite and put their shit together for a given cause. Most of the time lots of drama ensues, as they split into groups, start fighting and finally accomplish nothing.

[Cain]

I would say, if anything, Anonymous are weaker now, due to arrests having thinned out their more high profile hackers.

Furthermore, Los Zetas are not going to contest this through the courts or the internet.  They're going to play to their strengths, which involves intimidation, beatdowns and ultimately murder.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Whoever the Anons are who issued this ultimatum, they are not unaware or apparently concerned about that action.

[deadfong]

What kind of reach do the Zetas have outside of Mexico?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

What kind of reach do the Zetas have outside of Mexico?

According to the Obama administration, enough to off a Saudi ambassador on behalf of the Islamic Republic.   

[Telarus]

Well, good idea or not, they've started:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/118146622799388835070/posts/Gv3dQReHYpr

Anonymous Making Good on Threats to Expose Drug Cartel

After a member of Anonymous was kidnapped by the infamous Los Zetas drug cartel they announced a campaign to out drug cartel members and supporters from politicians to journalists. The first name has been exposed. A politician named Gustavo Rosario. His website has been defaced with the message "Gustavo Rosario is Zeta" in Spanish.

The website is still defaced if you want to check it out: hxxp://www.gustavorosario.com/

#Anonymous #OpCartel #kidnapping

I've heard mentioned that one of the major sources of leverage in this situation is that the OTHER cartels now know who one of the Zeta's guys are.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm guessing both Rosario and the kidnapped Anon will end up dead then....