In Defense of Being a Dick to New People

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This is why I never object when he goes berserk on my threads in Horrorology.

That and the fact that his bursts of incomprehensibility are not shrouded in egotism and misogyny.

Yeah, but I always get this feeling that I'm missing something important when I scan his posts.

So then I read them carefully and...Nothing.  Drives me batshit.

If you keep reading them, in time they start to make sense.

The first time you hit "reply" without thinking and start a conversation with him, you will suddenly realize after the fact, and abruptly shit yourself.

I talked to him once, a year or so ago.

He seemed distracted.

He was probably thinking about other things.

Other, really important things that we will never understand.

My exact impression.   Odds are, most of what he says is either gibberish or merely shorthand notes for his studies.

But that's not how I'm betting.  We Holy Men™ know each other on sight.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This is why I never object when he goes berserk on my threads in Horrorology.

That and the fact that his bursts of incomprehensibility are not shrouded in egotism and misogyny.

Yeah, but I always get this feeling that I'm missing something important when I scan his posts.

So then I read them carefully and...Nothing.  Drives me batshit.

If you keep reading them, in time they start to make sense.

The first time you hit "reply" without thinking and start a conversation with him, you will suddenly realize after the fact, and abruptly shit yourself.

I talked to him once, a year or so ago.

He seemed distracted.

He was probably thinking about other things.

Other, really important things that we will never understand.

My exact impression.   Odds are, most of what he says is either gibberish or merely shorthand notes for his studies.

But that's not how I'm betting.  We Holy Men™ know each other on sight.

Yep.

And you know how he got that way, right?

This is no ordinary case of crazy. This is the full-on Holy™. As you've already picked up on.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This is why I never object when he goes berserk on my threads in Horrorology.

That and the fact that his bursts of incomprehensibility are not shrouded in egotism and misogyny.

Yeah, but I always get this feeling that I'm missing something important when I scan his posts.

So then I read them carefully and...Nothing.  Drives me batshit.

If you keep reading them, in time they start to make sense.

The first time you hit "reply" without thinking and start a conversation with him, you will suddenly realize after the fact, and abruptly shit yourself.

I talked to him once, a year or so ago.

He seemed distracted.

He was probably thinking about other things.

Other, really important things that we will never understand.

My exact impression.   Odds are, most of what he says is either gibberish or merely shorthand notes for his studies.

But that's not how I'm betting.  We Holy Men™ know each other on sight.

Yep.

And you know how he got that way, right?

This is no ordinary case of crazy. This is the full-on Holy™. As you've already picked up on.

I am all ears.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This is why I never object when he goes berserk on my threads in Horrorology.

That and the fact that his bursts of incomprehensibility are not shrouded in egotism and misogyny.

Yeah, but I always get this feeling that I'm missing something important when I scan his posts.

So then I read them carefully and...Nothing.  Drives me batshit.

If you keep reading them, in time they start to make sense.

The first time you hit "reply" without thinking and start a conversation with him, you will suddenly realize after the fact, and abruptly shit yourself.

I talked to him once, a year or so ago.

He seemed distracted.

He was probably thinking about other things.

Other, really important things that we will never understand.

My exact impression.   Odds are, most of what he says is either gibberish or merely shorthand notes for his studies.

But that's not how I'm betting.  We Holy Men™ know each other on sight.

Yep.

And you know how he got that way, right?

This is no ordinary case of crazy. This is the full-on Holy™. As you've already picked up on.

I am all ears.

You know how we all heard about the military using soldiers as chemical test subjects in the 1960's?

PILLS HERE.

N0p signed up, and was sent on the hallucinogen tour. What you see is the result. The bonus is that he gets a nice check every month and gets to take as many classes at PSU as he wants for free.

He's older, but I actually don't think he's a ton older than me (I mean, not more than 20 years older). I met him almost 20 years ago and he looked exactly the same as he does now.

[LMNO]

For serious?  We have a real, honest, MKULTRA survivor on this board?


For some reason, this delights me.

[East Coast Hustle]

I wanna have a cuppa joe with him someday.

For some reason, I get the sense that ECHGF would have no problem understanding him.

[Cainad (dec.)]

He seems to be all over subjects that are actually quite relevant and interesting to me (spectral analysis and geology, mostly), which makes me wish I could understand more.

[Triple Zero]

Yep.

And you know how he got that way, right?

This is no ordinary case of crazy. This is the full-on Holy™. As you've already picked up on.

I am all ears.

You know how we all heard about the military using soldiers as chemical test subjects in the 1960's?

PILLS HERE.

N0p signed up, and was sent on the hallucinogen tour. What you see is the result. The bonus is that he gets a nice check every month and gets to take as many classes at PSU as he wants for free.

He's older, but I actually don't think he's a ton older than me (I mean, not more than 20 years older). I met him almost 20 years ago and he looked exactly the same as he does now.

Wow thanks for explaining us that. That way, I know that, if ever striking up a conversation, I know I'm not wasting my time deciphering a loon that's just trying to be difficult for no reason. Of course you already said as much before, but now it's easier to have a picture of the why and how.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yeah! He's really a cool guy, and definitely brilliant. Understanding him can be quite the challenge, and sometimes you manage to decipher him only to realize that he's spent the last 20 pages detailing a hostile interaction over the pear stack at  the supermarket.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I know two ther MKUltra survivors... they also exhibit odd behavior... and are both brilliant in one way or another.

I wonder if anyone has done any studies on the experiments?

[BadBeast]

I know there's a whole rake of stuff on the David Icke website, about MKULTRA, and Project Monarch, and how the research is still playing out in various covert Ops around the World. Have a bit of a sift through this lot.
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/mind-control-mainmenu-39/47565-origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control-

I know Icke is a bit of a joke in some circles, but he's gone a lot deeper into this shit than most, and some of the stuff he uncovers is quite chilling.

[Cain]

I've read the declassified MK-Ultra papers.  The ones the agency didn't burn in a frenzy of record destroying in the early 70s, anyway.

Some of them were fairly standard psychological testing, of the sort that would not be out of character for a University department to undertake, and with no real ethical violations.  Others....not so good.  I made a decent study of Dr Ewen Cameron's treatments in Canada, sponsored by the CIA...he was convinced he could reduce the mind to a blank slate through drugs, hypnosis and electro-shock therapy, and rebuild the personality from the ground up.

Needless to say, human psychology is abit more complex than that, and Cameron's experiments left the subjects utterly ruined as people, suffering numerous mental illness related issues, incontinence, PTSD and in crippling pain.

Peter Levenda believes the Agency never gave up on MK-Ultra, but instead they moved from overtly scientific programs to ones more to do with cult activities and their techniques of brainwashing.  There is certainly enough evidence to suggest possible Agency involvement in the Symbionese Liberation Army debacle and Jonestown Massacre, which in turn could suggest the program continued under another name up until the end of the 1970s, and perhaps even longer.

[BadBeast]

I think the ongoing MKULTRA stuff is now called Project Monarch, and involves implementing and perfecting mind control on large numbers of people, in various MKULTRA originated techniques.
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/12/10-modern-methods-of-mind-control.html

Some of it is deliberately set up to attract the less credible conspiracy nuts, and deflect attention from the more sinister applications of what they have discovered they can do. And as there is no official recognition of their research, or even their existence, they pretty much have Tabula Rasa.

Much of the early classified research from MKULTRA is trickling out from our Security Agencies under the Freedom of information act, but as fast as we get the old stuff, there's always new stuff being hidden away for decades in "National Security Interests" every day. I think the only solid  conlusion we can draw from this is that MKULTRA is very much still going on,on a larger scale than ever imagined.

[valdemarian]

I've been browsing this forum for over a year, registered recently for no significant reason.
Holy Man™ keeps me in the shadows, smirking. Preemptive middle finger to you kind sir.

[BadBeast]

Way to go lurker. Then you must know how much a gesture of pre-emptive braggadocio is likely to make anyone think twice about being a dick to you. I am fearful of your 'devil may care' swagger, so I shall bite my tongue, lest I say something that brings your wrath down upon me.