Legalize prostitution

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The other issue here is that if you choose who you have sex with, that's just life.

Having no choice is where we have prostitution. That prostitution is seen negatively  as a job is the only reason the money is so good. If you took away the bias (wrong word but the right one isn't coming to me) against prostitution to the point that many many women went into it, they would also shoot the fuck out of it, because the money would suck.

Anyway, that's an aside; the gender issues are more interesting.

I think Khore is being maltreated by Maslow.

Prostitutes that are in the better end of prostitution (in as much as it can have a better end, but I am talking about Bunny Ranch or Escort ads in alternative newspaper types as opposed to streetwalkers) have the option of refusing customers, just as any other professional does.  It's not sex without choice.  That doesn't keep it from being dehumanizing and degrading, but it is an important distinction.

It's still sex without choice, because it's not like they turn down everyone they don't feel attracted to. They are still taking money to sleep with men they would not sleep with otherwise. They have some control, in that they can refuse service to men who are abusive or have some really awful habit or hygiene problem, but they are not making their decisions on the basis of attraction, which is what free choice involves.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The other issue here is that if you choose who you have sex with, that's just life.

Having no choice is where we have prostitution. That prostitution is seen negatively  as a job is the only reason the money is so good. If you took away the bias (wrong word but the right one isn't coming to me) against prostitution to the point that many many women went into it, they would also shoot the fuck out of it, because the money would suck.

Anyway, that's an aside; the gender issues are more interesting.

I think Khore is being maltreated by Maslow.

Prostitutes that are in the better end of prostitution (in as much as it can have a better end, but I am talking about Bunny Ranch or Escort ads in alternative newspaper types as opposed to streetwalkers) have the option of refusing customers, just as any other professional does.  It's not sex without choice.  That doesn't keep it from being dehumanizing and degrading, but it is an important distinction.

It's still sex without choice, because it's not like they turn down everyone they don't feel attracted to. They are still taking money to sleep with men they would not sleep with otherwise. They have some control, in that they can refuse service to men who are abusive or have some really awful habit or hygiene problem, but they are not making their decisions on the basis of attraction, which is what free choice involves.

<eagerly awaits lame rebuttal by the degenerate>

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The other issue here is that if you choose who you have sex with, that's just life.

Having no choice is where we have prostitution. That prostitution is seen negatively  as a job is the only reason the money is so good. If you took away the bias (wrong word but the right one isn't coming to me) against prostitution to the point that many many women went into it, they would also shoot the fuck out of it, because the money would suck.

Anyway, that's an aside; the gender issues are more interesting.

I think Khore is being maltreated by Maslow.

Prostitutes that are in the better end of prostitution (in as much as it can have a better end, but I am talking about Bunny Ranch or Escort ads in alternative newspaper types as opposed to streetwalkers) have the option of refusing customers, just as any other professional does.  It's not sex without choice.  That doesn't keep it from being dehumanizing and degrading, but it is an important distinction.

It's still sex without choice, because it's not like they turn down everyone they don't feel attracted to. They are still taking money to sleep with men they would not sleep with otherwise. They have some control, in that they can refuse service to men who are abusive or have some really awful habit or hygiene problem, but they are not making their decisions on the basis of attraction, which is what free choice involves.

<eagerly awaits lame rebuttal by the degenerate>

I don't know why I even bother replying to any of his posts. I guess it's just that they're so egregiously wrongheaded that on some level I'm worried that someone will believe him.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

He has admitted to having borderline personality disorder, which essentially combines the worst of all the other personality disorders into one charming package. He shouldn't try to represent other people's points of view or experiences in any way, because he is inherently incapable of understanding other people's perspectives. It makes my skin crawl.

[BabylonHoruv]

I read it as not just sex, but women as a commodity.

I may be being overly judgemental, but I think this one is worse than I am.

I wouldn't go that far.

But he fairly clearly is a shitheel who doesn't view women as individual human beings.

Yeah, Khore or w/etf is just a complete douchebag and doesn't make me feel, in text form, like he's got his hand on my leg while talking to me about sex and uses the word "coitus." 

I'm fairly certain I never, ever hit on you.

You didn't have to.  That's just how you come off.

Fact.  When BH posts, everything feels all greasy & shit.  And not in a good way.  He reminds me of the kind of person that always finds excuses to bump up against people, etc.

Quoting Nigel, out of context, but it helps illustrate what I am saying

Basically this guy is a socially awkward sex-starved teenage idiot. He either will or will not grow out of his stupidity.

Even the most socially awkward and unattractive people can find other socially awkward and unattractive people to mate with. Where there is often a disconnect is when the socially awkward and unattractive people desire the socially adept and beautiful people, and are angry that the world is so "unfair" that it won't let them have them. Then you end up with antisocial prats like Khore making up fantasy utopias in which the pretty popular girls will fuck them.

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

I won't deny that I get a kick out of creeping you and Nigel out, but then, neither of you are very nice people, much of the time, and that makes both of you much more compatible with me.  I think you get a bit of a kick out of it in return and that's why you poke at me.  Nigel pretty clearly doesn't enjoy it and so I try not to creep her out as much as I do you.

I did find excuses to rub up against people, back when I was a sex starved teenager like Khore, but I grew out of it and discovered it was a lot more fun when the people actually wanted to be rubbed up against.

[Luna]

They were talking about Khore in that second quote, not you, I believe.

[Freeky]

They were talking about Khore in that second quote, not you, I believe.

Yeah, he's just attention whoring at this point.  We're talking about him, so he has to escalate. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

I won't deny that I get a kick out of creeping you and Nigel out, but then, neither of you are very nice people, much of the time, and that makes both of you much more compatible with me.

You and I have NOTHING in common.  I don't get a kick out of fucking with you, I just wish you'd go find some other board to slither on.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

Interesting term.  "Borderline".  That implies that he could control it if he chose to...Otherwise it would be "personality disorder".  He apparently chooses not to, because he feels the need to creep freeky out like some kind of stalker...And make no mistake, that's what he deliberately just tried to do.

He is scum of the worst kind, and if there was ever a downfall to our moderation scheme, it would be that we can't just make fucking creepers like him go away.  I'm not suggesting we change our rules just because of him, I'm just saying that's the one downside of our style.

What's especially odious about this is that he seems to think that you and I "get a kick out of" him.  I can't speak for you, Nigel, but he makes me more than a bit nauseated.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

Interesting term.  "Borderline".  That implies that he could control it if he chose to...Otherwise it would be "personality disorder".  He apparently chooses not to, because he feels the need to creep freeky out like some kind of stalker...And make no mistake, that's what he deliberately just tried to do.

He is scum of the worst kind, and if there was ever a downfall to our moderation scheme, it would be that we can't just make fucking creepers like him go away.  I'm not suggesting we change our rules just because of him, I'm just saying that's the one downside of our style.

What's especially odious about this is that he seems to think that you and I "get a kick out of" him.  I can't speak for you, Nigel, but he makes me more than a bit nauseated.

No, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

My mother was diagnosed with it when I was in my early 20's. She's awful.

And yeah, I don't get a kick out of him at all. I just wish he would go away. Another aspect of his personality disorder is a complete inability to accurately assess or interpret other people's feelings and reactions.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

Interesting term.  "Borderline".  That implies that he could control it if he chose to...Otherwise it would be "personality disorder".  He apparently chooses not to, because he feels the need to creep freeky out like some kind of stalker...And make no mistake, that's what he deliberately just tried to do.

He is scum of the worst kind, and if there was ever a downfall to our moderation scheme, it would be that we can't just make fucking creepers like him go away.  I'm not suggesting we change our rules just because of him, I'm just saying that's the one downside of our style.

What's especially odious about this is that he seems to think that you and I "get a kick out of" him.  I can't speak for you, Nigel, but he makes me more than a bit nauseated.

No, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Okay.  But I don't buy for a fucking second that he can't control himself about shit like this.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

Interesting term.  "Borderline".  That implies that he could control it if he chose to...Otherwise it would be "personality disorder".  He apparently chooses not to, because he feels the need to creep freeky out like some kind of stalker...And make no mistake, that's what he deliberately just tried to do.

He is scum of the worst kind, and if there was ever a downfall to our moderation scheme, it would be that we can't just make fucking creepers like him go away.  I'm not suggesting we change our rules just because of him, I'm just saying that's the one downside of our style.

What's especially odious about this is that he seems to think that you and I "get a kick out of" him.  I can't speak for you, Nigel, but he makes me more than a bit nauseated.

No, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Okay.  But I don't buy for a fucking second that he can't control himself about shit like this.

He could, but he likes the attention.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm well aware that I am socially awkward and am quite happy with the other socially awkward people that choose to mate with me.  If I were, through some odd miracle, to end up in bed with someone well adjusted, like Freeky, I can't imagine that it would be a very pleasant experience for either of us.

You know you creep Freeky out.  Why would you then write something like that?

Borderline personality disorder.

Interesting term.  "Borderline".  That implies that he could control it if he chose to...Otherwise it would be "personality disorder".  He apparently chooses not to, because he feels the need to creep freeky out like some kind of stalker...And make no mistake, that's what he deliberately just tried to do.

He is scum of the worst kind, and if there was ever a downfall to our moderation scheme, it would be that we can't just make fucking creepers like him go away.  I'm not suggesting we change our rules just because of him, I'm just saying that's the one downside of our style.

What's especially odious about this is that he seems to think that you and I "get a kick out of" him.  I can't speak for you, Nigel, but he makes me more than a bit nauseated.

No, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Okay.  But I don't buy for a fucking second that he can't control himself about shit like this.

He could, but he likes the attention.

I had a dog like that, once.