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Started by Khore, December 15, 2011, 04:26:45 PM

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BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Luna on December 16, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
They were talking about Khore in that second quote, not you, I believe.

I know, that's why I said "quoting Nigel out of context"

Khore is a socially awkward person who hasn't found other socially awkward people to mate with,  So he's projecting his resentment at the less socially awkward people.  I have, so I'm not trying to seduce anyone, and I'm not resentful that less socially awkward people don't find me at all attractive.

I don't think Nigel gets a kick out of it.  She tends to ignore me most of the time.  I don't go out of my way to aggravate her, I'm just an aggravating fucker.

Roger is the king of the asstards, not saying he's an asstard himself, but along with the crown come subjects like me.  We love his poomps, in our own twisted way, and he loves the poomping, in his.

You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

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-Dok Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on December 16, 2011, 08:49:05 PM
Roger is the king of the asstards, not saying he's an asstard himself, but along with the crown come subjects like me.  We love his poomps, in our own twisted way, and he loves the poomping, in his.



Except with respect to you.  I really wish you'd just leave.

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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Khore on December 16, 2011, 02:58:54 PMI am saying that sex could be exchangeable for money, only sex. In a capitalist society if it was well seen in a society for me this would be great for all. More sane society when prostitutes are everywhere and you can fuck when you want, and is allowed by the society.

So you're saying if prostitution is capitalism, what you want is communism? :lulz: Ehhhh... I don't think that would work. And not just for the reasons communism usually doesn't work.

¿Estás diciendo que si la prostitución es el capitalismo, lo que quiere es el comunismo? :lulz: Ehhhh ... No creo que funcione. Y no sólo por las razones que el comunismo no suele funcionar.

Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 16, 2011, 06:22:10 PM
000, I dig where you're coming from, and honestly, I ain't all that surprised. I am treating this one like "stupid fucking teenager" instead of "irredeemable shitneck misogynist". Which, as has been said, may or may not be a curable condition. And hell, I've been downright civil, for me.  :lol:

000, comprendo que usted está viniendo, y honestamente, no es lo único que sorprende. Estoy tratando éste como "adolescente estúpido" en lugar de "misógino irremediable cuello mierda". Que, como se ha dicho, puede o no puede ser una condición curable. Y el infierno, he estado completamente civil, para mí. :lol:

Cool, thanks. And I can see you're trying, too :)

Quote from: Nigel on December 16, 2011, 08:26:46 PMNo, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Do you know if borderline can be cured/people get better? Because my one of my best friends once had a long relationship with a girl that turned out to have borderline personality disorder, very passionate, they loved each other very much, but as you probably feel coming, it got real ugly at the end. He wanted to help her, was more patient with her than anyone (maybe) should have been, she got very manipulative, even tried to come between me and him (which doesn't work), and after a long on/off "traffic light" period and some crazy situations they broke up for real. However, she got better after some time, found a new relationship, my friend and her talked out some shit, and they became friends. Not sure if they still have contact though, it was a long time ago (she's probably still listed in his phone as "Anathem", though :lol:). Before things got real crazy I liked her a lot as well, tiny blonde girl with an amazing temper and a big angry mouth.
Is that possible? Was it maybe not really borderline for-real? Or maybe she just learned how to handle herself better (she had a lot of therapy, afaik).
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Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Khore on December 16, 2011, 02:58:54 PMI am saying that sex could be exchangeable for money, only sex. In a capitalist society if it was well seen in a society for me this would be great for all. More sane society when prostitutes are everywhere and you can fuck when you want, and is allowed by the society.

So you're saying if prostitution is capitalism, what you want is communism? :lulz: Ehhhh... I don't think that would work. And not just for the reasons communism usually doesn't work.

¿Estás diciendo que si la prostitución es el capitalismo, lo que quiere es el comunismo? :lulz: Ehhhh ... No creo que funcione. Y no sólo por las razones que el comunismo no suele funcionar.

Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 16, 2011, 06:22:10 PM
000, I dig where you're coming from, and honestly, I ain't all that surprised. I am treating this one like "stupid fucking teenager" instead of "irredeemable shitneck misogynist". Which, as has been said, may or may not be a curable condition. And hell, I've been downright civil, for me.  :lol:

000, comprendo que usted está viniendo, y honestamente, no es lo único que sorprende. Estoy tratando éste como "adolescente estúpido" en lugar de "misógino irremediable cuello mierda". Que, como se ha dicho, puede o no puede ser una condición curable. Y el infierno, he estado completamente civil, para mí. :lol:

Cool, thanks. And I can see you're trying, too :)

Quote from: Nigel on December 16, 2011, 08:26:46 PMNo, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Do you know if borderline can be cured/people get better? Because my one of my best friends once had a long relationship with a girl that turned out to have borderline personality disorder, very passionate, they loved each other very much, but as you probably feel coming, it got real ugly at the end. He wanted to help her, was more patient with her than anyone (maybe) should have been, she got very manipulative, even tried to come between me and him (which doesn't work), and after a long on/off "traffic light" period and some crazy situations they broke up for real. However, she got better after some time, found a new relationship, my friend and her talked out some shit, and they became friends. Not sure if they still have contact though, it was a long time ago (she's probably still listed in his phone as "Anathem", though :lol:). Before things got real crazy I liked her a lot as well, tiny blonde girl with an amazing temper and a big angry mouth.
Is that possible? Was it maybe not really borderline for-real? Or maybe she just learned how to handle herself better (she had a lot of therapy, afaik).

The short answer is no, it cannot be cured. Borderline can be treated and controlled through dialectical behavioral therapy if the patient is willing, and sometimes medications can help with specific symptoms, but has an incredibly poor prognosis overall. Most patients are not really willing to go through with therapy, especially since it only helps them manage their symptoms and does not offer a cure. Simply accepting the diagnosis is very difficult for most borderlines, because they desperately crave approval and it's not a sympathetic diagnosis at all. They are often hypochondriacs and/or professional victims, and they tend very often to be copycats because believe it or not, they have a very weak sense of identity. Due to the weak sense of identity they also often completely revise their personalities periodically, and when they do this you can expect them to get a whole new peer group and develop a revised personal history. Usually every time they revise their personality, they drop out of therapy. They have incredibly fragile egos and criticism can throw them into a defensive rage or a suicidal crisis, but are also usually manipulative and often verbally/emotionally abusive.


They are the quintessential "moving goalposts" of psychiatric disorders. They're baffling, infuriating, and frustrating to deal with because they will shift gears at the drop of a hat, going from one mode of assault/attention whoring to another, and if you prove them wrong in an argument they will often reverse their argument and claim that they were agreeing with you all along and that you just misunderstood, or they will bring in a completely different argument and claim they were arguing it all along and you just didn't understand.

It's fucking maddening.

Many of the people we think are internet assburgers could very well have BPD. Pure cluelessness is more Aspie-like, but an Aspie will remember when told they hurt someone's feelings, will feel terrible about it, and NEVER EVER DO THAT EXACT THING AGAIN. FOREVER. Whereas a BPD will argue with you about why they were actually right about that thing, and explain why the whole rest of the world should change to accommodate their wish to do the thing because they are logical and right. Also, Aspies aren't notable for their attention whoring, and BPDs are.


"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 16, 2011, 08:26:46 PMNo, actually the "borderline" refers not to the intensity of the personality disorder, but to the type of disorder. "Borderline" doesn't fall into a neat category like Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Antisocial Personality Disorder, but rather, shares traits from many of them, sometimes alternately, making the Borderline one of the least predictable and most unpleasant types to be around.

Do you know if borderline can be cured/people get better? Because my one of my best friends once had a long relationship with a girl that turned out to have borderline personality disorder, very passionate, they loved each other very much, but as you probably feel coming, it got real ugly at the end. He wanted to help her, was more patient with her than anyone (maybe) should have been, she got very manipulative, even tried to come between me and him (which doesn't work), and after a long on/off "traffic light" period and some crazy situations they broke up for real. However, she got better after some time, found a new relationship, my friend and her talked out some shit, and they became friends. Not sure if they still have contact though, it was a long time ago (she's probably still listed in his phone as "Anathem", though :lol:). Before things got real crazy I liked her a lot as well, tiny blonde girl with an amazing temper and a big angry mouth.
Is that possible? Was it maybe not really borderline for-real? Or maybe she just learned how to handle herself better (she had a lot of therapy, afaik).

It can be managed and there are treatments for some aspects of it, such as depression which tends to exist in the same people that have borderline.

It might be hard to believe from the way I interact with people here but I am actually a rather highly functioning well adjusted borderline.  I've been married for 11 years in January, we may have our problems but we manage and divorce isn't something that is any sort of likely.  I don't get in fights with people and I have a decent amount of friends who I have been friends with for a fairly long time (really difficult for borderline people, we tend to make friends and/or lovers fast and lose them just as fast) I went through a very difficult period in my early twenties when I was not at all adjusted to my disorder or the fact that my brain works differently than most people and the obstacles that puts in my way but I've got a lot of coping skills now and they help keep me and the people around me from being hurt by my disorder.

I get along just fine most places online as well.  PD is just a forum that expects rather more from people than most and I clearly don't reach that level and when I try to I end up displaying some of the worst aspects of my disorder and my personality.

Your friends experience is typical for people who get involved with borderlines, at first things seem perfect, sometimes too good to be real, which is unfortunately usually the case, we sabatoge relationships, usually without consciously meaning to, and our breakups are usually really ugly and messy.  We are also often extremely emotionally manipulative, which would factor into her trying to drive a wedge between you and your friend.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl

Triple Zero

So Nigel, I suppose that means either she was suffering something else, or she isn't really cured. Well, for her sake I hope it's the former.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2011, 10:53:52 PM
So Nigel, I suppose that means either she was suffering something else, or she isn't really cured. Well, for her sake I hope it's the former.

Yes, I hope so too. But if she was diligent about therapy she could have improved significantly... or, simply not being in a close intimate relationship with her may have made it much less visible.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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I love how he changed the thread title AGAIN.  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Luna

Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2011, 09:13:31 PM
I love how he changed the thread title AGAIN.  :lulz:

I know!  I'm tempted to see if he changed the OP again to try to make it less offensive in hopes we'll forget.

Protip:  PD doesn't forget.  Ever.  Twenty years from now, yet another troll will try the "we wouldn't need whores if you bitches would just fuck me for free" card, and somebody will say, "hey!  Remember asstard?"  It's a kind of immortality.  Not a GOOD kind, but, still.
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Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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Pæs

This thread is clearly about feminism.
Why do you guys hate women?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 21, 2011, 01:03:14 AM
This thread is clearly about feminism.
Why do you guys hate women?

Oh fuck
:lulz:

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Luna

Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 21, 2011, 01:03:14 AM
This thread is clearly about feminism.
Why do you guys hate women?

Because they're cold, heartless bitches who won't fuck Khore so he'll have something to do other than stink up PD.com's forums.  Why do you ask?
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"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know, everybody you see, everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake, and they live in a state of constant, total amazement."

Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."