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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, January 04, 2012, 04:20:12 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on January 04, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 04:27:27 PM
Not that I mind being black, mind you. But being LEGALLY black according to a Federal law which overrides State laws about legal blackness... well jesus fuck what is that? Also under former Oregon law my children were legally black, under this new overarching Federal law they are not.

My children, legally speaking, are white.

Also I hate humanity what is this.

This is really weird.

It's not that weird, historically speaking in the US, anyway. Prior to this, many states, including Oregon, had a law called "the one-drop rule". This is one of those things that colored people grow up with and white people don't even know exist, which is the reason only white people say things like "I don't see color" or "I don't view people's race".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky

Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 08:01:34 PM

It's not that weird, historically speaking in the US, anyway. Prior to this, many states, including Oregon, had a law called "the one-drop rule". This is one of those things that colored people grow up with and white people don't even know exist, which is the reason only white people say things like "I don't see color" or "I don't view people's race".

There's brownish people, there's whitish people, there's white people who could pass as brown (my dad definitely, he's got a thirty year old tan and could pass as a border hopper almost, and he's of Dutch descent), and there's brown people who could pass as white (my friend Pool Hall could, I think she's Mexican?  I don't know.  She looks white-with-a-tan but I think she's naturally olive). 

Sometimes when I'm bored I try to amuse myself by focusing on features that give clues to their ancestry, but I'm not very good at it. 

I don't doubt that there's stupid laws covering race, but its fucking stupid anyways.  :(

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 04, 2012, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 08:01:34 PM

It's not that weird, historically speaking in the US, anyway. Prior to this, many states, including Oregon, had a law called "the one-drop rule". This is one of those things that colored people grow up with and white people don't even know exist, which is the reason only white people say things like "I don't see color" or "I don't view people's race".

There's brownish people, there's whitish people, there's white people who could pass as brown (my dad definitely, he's got a thirty year old tan and could pass as a border hopper almost, and he's of Dutch descent), and there's brown people who could pass as white (my friend Pool Hall could, I think she's Mexican?  I don't know.  She looks white-with-a-tan but I think she's naturally olive). 

Sometimes when I'm bored I try to amuse myself by focusing on features that give clues to their ancestry, but I'm not very good at it. 

I don't doubt that there's stupid laws covering race, but its fucking stupid anyways.  :(

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. And it's also the reason that until the 1970's people "of color" couldn't buy houses outside of Portland's Red Line.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

The ONLY people who say "race doesn't matter" are white people. Period ever the end.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky

Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
The ONLY people who say "race doesn't matter" are white people. Period ever the end.

Sorry.  :( 

-- Been known to spout that particular line once in a while. 
-- Knows it is a blatant falsehood.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Oh hey look! Wikipedia has an article on it. I could have saved my breath. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypodescent
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 04, 2012, 09:35:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
The ONLY people who say "race doesn't matter" are white people. Period ever the end.

Sorry.  :( 

-- Been known to spout that particular line once in a while. 
-- Knows it is a blatant falsehood.

I do not hold it against you or the other white people I care about. Besides, you have your own row to hoe as a young single mom and it will not be easy for you either.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky

Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on January 04, 2012, 09:35:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
The ONLY people who say "race doesn't matter" are white people. Period ever the end.

Sorry.  :( 

-- Been known to spout that particular line once in a while. 
-- Knows it is a blatant falsehood.

I do not hold it against you or the other white people I care about. Besides, you have your own row to hoe as a young single mom and it will not be easy for you either.

I am relieved to have not annoyed you.  :)