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Moving into your new house while black - the latest crime

Started by Cain, April 23, 2012, 03:17:26 PM

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Doktor Howl

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Net on April 24, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
The two morons who held up the Kalonjis with AR-15s are being charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass:

www.ajc.com/news/newton-county-neighbors-charged-1424231.html

Check out this choice remark:

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"I don't know what they can charge me with," Canoles said late Monday afternoon, before the interview with authorities. "This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own."
             /
:mullet:

Oh holy shit! I'm glad they're being charged, and not totally surprised because Atlanta has always been better than the rest of the South, but I can't help wondering what life in that neighborhood is going to be like for the Kalonjis.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: Net on April 24, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
The two morons who held up the Kalonjis with AR-15s are being charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass:

www.ajc.com/news/newton-county-neighbors-charged-1424231.html

Check out this choice remark:

Quote
"I don't know what they can charge me with," Canoles said late Monday afternoon, before the interview with authorities. "This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own."
             /
:mullet:

Oh holy shit! I'm glad they're being charged, and not totally surprised because Atlanta has always been better than the rest of the South, but I can't help wondering what life in that neighborhood is going to be like for the Kalonjis.

I could see people being overly friendly to them. Even if they wouldn't have been to begin with.
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Anyone else notice the celebrity lawyer name-drop, and that the charges were pressed only after he got involved?
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Quote from: Telarus on April 24, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
Anyone else notice the celebrity lawyer name-drop, and that the charges were pressed only after he got involved?

Yes.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 24, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: Net on April 24, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
The two morons who held up the Kalonjis with AR-15s are being charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass:

www.ajc.com/news/newton-county-neighbors-charged-1424231.html

Check out this choice remark:

Quote
"I don't know what they can charge me with," Canoles said late Monday afternoon, before the interview with authorities. "This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own."
             /
:mullet:

Oh holy shit! I'm glad they're being charged, and not totally surprised because Atlanta has always been better than the rest of the South, but I can't help wondering what life in that neighborhood is going to be like for the Kalonjis.

I could see people being overly friendly to them. Even if they wouldn't have been to begin with.

That's possible, but they could also be "them strangers whut stirred up trouble for some of ourn"
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Telarus on April 24, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
Anyone else notice the celebrity lawyer name-drop, and that the charges were pressed only after he got involved?

Oh hell yes. It was pretty obvious that the only reason charges were presses was because they got a lawyer, and certainly him being a high-profile lawyer had an influence.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


navkat

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 24, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: navkat on April 24, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
You're preaching to the choir here. I'm not saying we should ban anything. I'm merely accepting the reality that we've become desensitized and that lack of meaningful discussion has created this weird loophole where since they're entitled to the same rights, we're treating them like they're entitled to go on without judgement.

I don't see that.

I mean, I'm the first guy to jump up and say Nazis have free speech, too.  But I'm also the first bastard to point and laugh.

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navkat

Quote from: Emo Howard on May 05, 2012, 04:05:20 AM
...and then they all had CAEK.

QuoteThe Sheriff threw out the case against the couple and released them from jail, then arrested the father and son on two felony charges: aggravated assault and false imprisonment and two misdemeanor charges: criminal trespass, and loitering and prowling.

I am so fucking proud of that Sheriff. One of the few Good Guys left who gets it. I'll bet the original arresting officers got their asses handed to them too.

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: navkat on April 24, 2012, 04:25:49 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on April 24, 2012, 04:01:16 AM
Quote from: navkat on April 23, 2012, 04:23:45 PM
This is the endgame of rule 34. This is what happens when you allow every psychotic freak unbridled freedom to indulge their every depraved belief or fantasy. If people can dress up like anthropomorphic chickens and fuck each other in diapers, racism ceases to seem so "weird." That's part of my theory.

Are you saying my chicken suit is the slippery slope to racism?

I'm just saying we all have too much of an attitude where "Hey, if THEY can have their little conventions, I guess we kinda gotta let the neo-nazis have access to the Autumn Room at the Doubletree as well."

The guy in the chicken suit isn't holding anyone at gunpoint for not liking chicken.

It's pretty simple, if you advocate hurting people or property then your ideology needs to be closely examined before it should be considered acceptable.  If it doesn't involve hurting anyone who didn't choose to be hurt or breaking anything that isn't yours then it's none of my business.
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navkat

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 05, 2012, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: navkat on April 24, 2012, 04:25:49 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on April 24, 2012, 04:01:16 AM
Quote from: navkat on April 23, 2012, 04:23:45 PM
This is the endgame of rule 34. This is what happens when you allow every psychotic freak unbridled freedom to indulge their every depraved belief or fantasy. If people can dress up like anthropomorphic chickens and fuck each other in diapers, racism ceases to seem so "weird." That's part of my theory.

Are you saying my chicken suit is the slippery slope to racism?

I'm just saying we all have too much of an attitude where "Hey, if THEY can have their little conventions, I guess we kinda gotta let the neo-nazis have access to the Autumn Room at the Doubletree as well."

The guy in the chicken suit isn't holding anyone at gunpoint for not liking chicken.

It's pretty simple, if you advocate hurting people or property then your ideology needs to be closely examined before it should be considered acceptable.  If it doesn't involve hurting anyone who didn't choose to be hurt or breaking anything that isn't yours then it's none of my business.

I would go so far as to say that reasonable property damage, within the scope of a planned and purposeful revolutionary tactic does not necessarily speak poorly of one's ideology so long as no physical harm or threat of harm comes to its owners and its execution does not leave any innocent, private citizen in a state of necessary destitution and hardship.

What am I saying? I'm saying it might be okay to destroy shit that belongs to a corporation or wealthy entity whose operation and policies are causing profound harm to private citizens within the scope of an act of revolution or protest so long as no innocent human ends up physically harmed or on the street and destitute as a result.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


BabylonHoruv

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Quote from: navkat on May 05, 2012, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 05, 2012, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: navkat on April 24, 2012, 04:25:49 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on April 24, 2012, 04:01:16 AM
Quote from: navkat on April 23, 2012, 04:23:45 PM
This is the endgame of rule 34. This is what happens when you allow every psychotic freak unbridled freedom to indulge their every depraved belief or fantasy. If people can dress up like anthropomorphic chickens and fuck each other in diapers, racism ceases to seem so "weird." That's part of my theory.

Are you saying my chicken suit is the slippery slope to racism?

I'm just saying we all have too much of an attitude where "Hey, if THEY can have their little conventions, I guess we kinda gotta let the neo-nazis have access to the Autumn Room at the Doubletree as well."

The guy in the chicken suit isn't holding anyone at gunpoint for not liking chicken.

It's pretty simple, if you advocate hurting people or property then your ideology needs to be closely examined before it should be considered acceptable.  If it doesn't involve hurting anyone who didn't choose to be hurt or breaking anything that isn't yours then it's none of my business.

I would go so far as to say that reasonable property damage, within the scope of a planned and purposeful revolutionary tactic does not necessarily speak poorly of one's ideology so long as no physical harm or threat of harm comes to its owners and its execution does not leave any innocent, private citizen in a state of necessary destitution and hardship.

What am I saying? I'm saying it might be okay to destroy shit that belongs to a corporation or wealthy entity whose operation and policies are causing profound harm to private citizens within the scope of an act of revolution or protest so long as no innocent human ends up physically harmed or on the street and destitute as a result.

Now and then people need to be harmed too, it's just that if there's harming people or taking or breaking shit it is other people's business.  It's not people harmlessly dressing up in teddy bear suits and having their teddy bear picnic or whatever.  If someone is advocating smashing things up their reasons and methods are something to look into to see if they need to be opposed, or perhaps assisted.

It's a pretty clear line, with people in chicken suits, or diapers, or roleplaying vampires on the "none of my business" side of the line and nazis and people taking justified direct action both on the "I should figure out what these people are doing and why and maybe get involved in one way or the other" side.

ETA: it looks like the neighbors in the OP story were acting on that impulse, they saw what they thought was property damage and interfered.  They didn't do a good enough job of finding out the what and why, but it looks like they learned from the mistake.  If they are being genuine about their apology and aren't just looking to avoid legal consequences then they are the sort of people I'd like to have as neighbors.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl