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Are we walking towards a dystopia?

Started by Mistre, April 24, 2012, 04:30:02 AM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.
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Cain


NewSpag

Quote from: Cainad on April 26, 2012, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

"Utopia," only in the sense that there won't be any people around to fuck things up and be horrible to each other. Because there won't be any people.

I meant "Utopia" in the sense that a utopia or dystopia is merely a label we assign the world based on our set of beliefs (every utopia is someone's dystopia and vice versa).  But I like your explanation better.
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Oysters Rockefeller

Quote from: Nigel on April 26, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

:horrormirth:
Well, my gynecologist committed suicide...
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Oysters Rockefeller on April 26, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 26, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

:horrormirth:

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.
Molon Lube

Oysters Rockefeller

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: Oysters Rockefeller on April 26, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 26, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

:horrormirth:

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.

Well, that just seems like it wouldn't be up to code.

Really though, it had never occurred to me until this thread that most dictatorships have been the result of utopian ideals. Very interesting.
Well, my gynecologist committed suicide...
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I'm nothing if not kind of ridiculous and a little hard to take seriously.
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Moar liek Oysters Cockefeller, amirite?!

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Oysters Rockefeller on April 26, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: Oysters Rockefeller on April 26, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 26, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 26, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Insanity on April 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

:horrormirth:

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.

Well, that just seems like it wouldn't be up to code.

Really though, it had never occurred to me until this thread that most dictatorships have been the result of utopian ideals. Very interesting.

Yeah, and everything would have been PERFECT without those DISSENTING TROUBLEMAKERS that didn't see the GENIUS of the vision!

So we had to march them out in a field and machine gun them.  For the benefit of the Good Citizens.
Molon Lube

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Deepthroat Chopra

I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?
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NewSpag

Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 27, 2012, 01:45:43 AM
I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?
Because all Muslims are EEEEVVVILLLL  :evilmad: :evilmad: :evilmad: :evilmad: :evilmad:
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There's beauty in everything so lets destroy it all together.
Sometimes Always is Never.  For everything else there's Mastercard.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 27, 2012, 01:45:43 AM
I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

They didn't kill enough of the troublemakers.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Mistre on April 27, 2012, 01:34:05 AM
For our own protection, aye?

No, for the protection of the Good People.

You and I are dead fucking meat.   :lulz:
Molon Lube

Deepthroat Chopra

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2012, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on April 27, 2012, 01:45:43 AM
I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

They didn't kill enough of the troublemakers.

Then, Hitler. He envisioned a Utopia. Just so happened to get there, one side of my ancestry needed to be completely wiped from Europe. And maybe the Irish side as well, as well as the Jews, Romany, disabled....

But then, WOO! What a party they would have thrown.
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navkat

I have important, secret news for you. Lean close and I'll whisper it in your ear. Ready, baby?


EVERYONE IS A UTOPIAN!!!!!

It's true. Ask anyone and they'll tell you their vision of perfect perfected perfectioness. And you know what else? We're all full of shit.

SHIT! WALLOW IN IT! IT'S LIKE JELL-O, EVERYONE HAS ROOM FOR MOAR.

Deepthroat Chopra

I gave Utopianism up for lent. And ate fish instead. I've kept the habit up after Easter. Thanks for the secret though. Love hearing other people's secrets.
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