Excuse me while I vomit.- Trigger Warning for Rape and Rape Culture.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

That they also have female and non-straight writers also seems to be a good sign.

Yeah, for sure!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

So unsurprising.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

If you're Canada Bill Jones, I guess it's funny.

"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

If you're Canada Bill Jones, I guess it's funny.

"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

"Pay us to show you how to pick up Prostitutes!"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

If you're Canada Bill Jones, I guess it's funny.

"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

"Pay us to show you how to pick up Prostitutes!"

No, it's "PAY US TO SHOW YOU HOW TO PICK UP HOT WOMEN!"

Works pretty good when the woman is in on the scam.  Not so good when the marks go home and try that shit.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

If you're Canada Bill Jones, I guess it's funny.

"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

"Pay us to show you how to pick up Prostitutes!"

No, it's "PAY US TO SHOW YOU HOW TO PICK UP HOT WOMEN!"

Works pretty good when the woman is in on the scam.  Not so good when the marks go home and try that shit.

Yeah, I understand that. I was stating what it really was, vs what they were advertising

[Cain]

This was linked to on the aforementioned blog, and is well worth reading

http://postmasculine.com/pickup-artist

Here's a dirty truth about being a PUA coach: many guys who take coaching don't actually want to change. They want to be validated. They want to feel cool and be around someone who they think is cool. They want to unload the responsibility for changing themselves onto someone else.

Rather than hiring a coach to help them progress, to them it's more of a "rent-a-cool-friend" service. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of guys who ARE looking to improve, and there are a lot of guys who do have good attitudes and do get a lot out of coaching. I had many students accomplish amazing things with me. But unfortunately, the PUA market and community don't promote the proper attitudes... in fact, much of the marketing and hype only encourages this sort of pathetic behavior.

The market promotes fanboyism and idol worshiping. It's sickening. I started to realize this when some of my students turned out to be these brilliant, successful and amazing men. Men who were far more successful in life than I was, and they'd look at me as some sort of demigod. Why? Because I've slept with more women? Because when I walk into a club, people actually think I'm cool? It makes absolutely no sense. Looking for advice and guidance is one thing, but this was something else entirely.

A lot of these guys don't need a pick up instructor. They need a shrink and maybe some sort of anti-anxiety therapy. They need some confidence and a push to put themselves out there more and more. The technical aspect of picking up women really ISN'T that difficult. It really can be explained and taught within a few days. But it must be practiced for a long time, and to have that practice, a guy has to have healthy mindsets and an ability to overcome his fears.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This was linked to on the aforementioned blog, and is well worth reading

http://postmasculine.com/pickup-artist

Here's a dirty truth about being a PUA coach: many guys who take coaching don't actually want to change. They want to be validated. They want to feel cool and be around someone who they think is cool. They want to unload the responsibility for changing themselves onto someone else.

Rather than hiring a coach to help them progress, to them it's more of a "rent-a-cool-friend" service. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of guys who ARE looking to improve, and there are a lot of guys who do have good attitudes and do get a lot out of coaching. I had many students accomplish amazing things with me. But unfortunately, the PUA market and community don't promote the proper attitudes... in fact, much of the marketing and hype only encourages this sort of pathetic behavior.

The market promotes fanboyism and idol worshiping. It's sickening. I started to realize this when some of my students turned out to be these brilliant, successful and amazing men. Men who were far more successful in life than I was, and they'd look at me as some sort of demigod. Why? Because I've slept with more women? Because when I walk into a club, people actually think I'm cool? It makes absolutely no sense. Looking for advice and guidance is one thing, but this was something else entirely.

A lot of these guys don't need a pick up instructor. They need a shrink and maybe some sort of anti-anxiety therapy. They need some confidence and a push to put themselves out there more and more. The technical aspect of picking up women really ISN'T that difficult. It really can be explained and taught within a few days. But it must be practiced for a long time, and to have that practice, a guy has to have healthy mindsets and an ability to overcome his fears.

Not really a shock.

[Cain]

He also says this

When your social interactions are the yardstick that your success is measured on, it absolutely kills the joy of socializing, and depresses the hell out of you in the process. When your emotional intimacy becomes a business asset, it completely undermines your relationships. For a prolonged period of time, this effect can lead one to a very dark place. I met many coaches who had been working in the industry for years and years who were obviously miserable people. It's why my original business partner quit and got a day job. And it consistently tested my resilience for two years.

But both sides are to blame: the consumers for buying into such a false idol, and the instructors for being seduced by it. On the surface, it's a life of partying, girls and money. The three things a young guy loves most, right? But in actuality, you spend more time hanging out with other men — men who are awkward, insecure and desperately watching every move of yours and judging you. You're no longer free to just be yourself. You aren't allowed to have a night where you just want to drink and relax. You aren't allowed to pass up a girl because you don't feel like talking to her. You aren't allowed to be awkward or unsure of yourself or nervous about anything.

The line between "work" and "play" blurs until the two are completely indistinguishable. Your nights out being social are the same as meeting prospective clients and marketing opportunities. Your prospective clients and marketing opportunities, in turn, want to be your friend and go out with you socially. It's a psychological mess that drags your emotional stability down with it. Thank god I had a serious girlfriend by that time, otherwise I probably would have lost my sanity.

And here's the most screwed up part: the beliefs on which the community is founded lead to a constant state of mutual discontent. Since the success of one's sex and emotional life is the standard of success, thousands of men sit online arguing and comparing things that are 100% subjective. And what invariably happens, is everyone merely projects their own personal discontent onto the perceived failures and shortcomings of others. This guy's girls aren't hot enough. That guy only sleeps with 3 girls a month. This guy is only good at day game. That guy just gets by on looks. Everyone is deemed a "fraud" in their own way and for some reason, everyone has tacitly agreed to unrealistic expectations that can be met by none. What the community has become is a cesspool of frustrated children with keyboards.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This was linked to on the aforementioned blog, and is well worth reading

http://postmasculine.com/pickup-artist

Here's a dirty truth about being a PUA coach: many guys who take coaching don't actually want to change. They want to be validated. They want to feel cool and be around someone who they think is cool. They want to unload the responsibility for changing themselves onto someone else.

Rather than hiring a coach to help them progress, to them it's more of a "rent-a-cool-friend" service. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of guys who ARE looking to improve, and there are a lot of guys who do have good attitudes and do get a lot out of coaching. I had many students accomplish amazing things with me. But unfortunately, the PUA market and community don't promote the proper attitudes... in fact, much of the marketing and hype only encourages this sort of pathetic behavior.

The market promotes fanboyism and idol worshiping. It's sickening. I started to realize this when some of my students turned out to be these brilliant, successful and amazing men. Men who were far more successful in life than I was, and they'd look at me as some sort of demigod. Why? Because I've slept with more women? Because when I walk into a club, people actually think I'm cool? It makes absolutely no sense. Looking for advice and guidance is one thing, but this was something else entirely.

A lot of these guys don't need a pick up instructor. They need a shrink and maybe some sort of anti-anxiety therapy. They need some confidence and a push to put themselves out there more and more. The technical aspect of picking up women really ISN'T that difficult. It really can be explained and taught within a few days. But it must be practiced for a long time, and to have that practice, a guy has to have healthy mindsets and an ability to overcome his fears.

I found that post fascinating, and I think there's a whole lot of truth in it. I didn't even mind that he's selling a book; I kinda hope some of the guys being seduced by the PUA crap will buy that instead.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Having poked around a little, I think that any time I encounter someone who expresses interest in PUA bullshit I'm going to refer them there instead. For one thing, they seem to actually WANT people to get laid and have healthy relationships, unlike the PUA shit which seems specifically designed to prevent anyone from ever having sex at all.

Um.  It is specifically designed so that "Mystery" can charge $4000 for a "boot camp" in which the marks "make runs" at women, who at first are picked at random, but after the "training" are apparently prostitutes hired by Mystery as shills.

Guess who helped Mystery develop his act?  Why, yes, it was the guy who owned Church of Google.

Hail Eris, that's pretty fucking funny/horrible depending on how you look at it.

If you're Canada Bill Jones, I guess it's funny.

"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

"Pay us to show you how to pick up Prostitutes!"

No, it's "PAY US TO SHOW YOU HOW TO PICK UP HOT WOMEN!"

Works pretty good when the woman is in on the scam.  Not so good when the marks go home and try that shit.

Wasn't there like, five minutes in this country when that would have been illegal? In 1963 or so? 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Wasn't there like, five minutes in this country when that would have been illegal? In 1963 or so? 

It's illegal now.  It's fraud, for one thing.

But get someone to press charges.

"Hi, your honor.  I'm a desperate little sociopath who was told he could learn how to manipulate or force women into bed, and I got ripped off by Mystery who simply gave me a prostitute."

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Wasn't there like, five minutes in this country when that would have been illegal? In 1963 or so? 

It's illegal now.  It's fraud, for one thing.

But get someone to press charges.

"Hi, your honor.  I'm a desperate little sociopath who was told he could learn how to manipulate or force women into bed, and I got ripped off by Mystery who simply gave me a prostitute."

I want popcorn and rotten tomatoes at that trial.

[Cain]

Check out the follow up thread, too, for hilarious quotes from idiots.

http://theattractivearts.com/2012/08/backlash-of-the-titans/

Apparently, Rake upset a LOT of wannabe rapists.

Bump.

It appears these people also troll OKCupid:

HIM: Hey cutie
Me: Really? Two words? I didn't even merit a complete sentence?
HIM: U R priceless. What R U looking for?
Me: Someone who can be bothered to type out actual words?
HIM: So am I ur type?

Are we sure they're not PD's alter-ego, in some strange way?