No Cause, No Ally

[East Coast Hustle]

I file that under the larger umbrella of "I don't understand". People seem to get hung up on thinking that if they can't understand something, it must not be valid. And while I'm sure it's nice to be such an amazing super-genius that anything you don't understand is obviously horseshit and should be ignored, dismissed, or confronted with hostility, well....I'm just not that smart. And I never want to be.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I file that under the larger umbrella of "I don't understand". People seem to get hung up on thinking that if they can't understand something, it must not be valid. And while I'd like to be such an amazing super-genius that anything I don't understand is obviously horseshit and should be ignored, dismissed, or confronted with hostility, well....I'm just not that smart. And I never want to be.

Yeah, I think you're right about that, and that generates a lot of frustration.

In my opinion, a huge part of actually understanding the world is knowing that there is a shit ton that you can't understand.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well of course not, that just seems silly. "I don't understand" is just as important a thing to be able to comfortably confront as "I don't know".

Yeah, I think so too. Also important is "I'll never really know what it's like to be in that situation but I get that it sucks and I'm willing to back you up".

Okay, I can buy that.  How?

[Juana]

What sort of 'how' do you mean?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Well of course not, that just seems silly. "I don't understand" is just as important a thing to be able to comfortably confront as "I don't know".

Yeah, I think so too. Also important is "I'll never really know what it's like to be in that situation but I get that it sucks and I'm willing to back you up".

Okay, I can buy that.  How?

Sort of like how my brother was in combat in Kuwait, and I can never know what that was like, but I will stand up for who he was for the rest of my life, to my death.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Okay, acknowledged. That was mostly directed at Vex anyway.

"Faggot" yes, "retard" yes, "nigger" no. I've never seen a non-black person acting stereotypically dark skinned, which is how the others work as insults.

What the actual fuck does this mean?

For whatever reason, a lot of straight guys find the concept of fucking a man in the ass funny as hell. Most wouldn't deny a guy the right if that's his thing but, from my point of view at least, it's definitely funny. So when someone I'm with says something in conversation that could be construed (however tangentially) as a come on or something like that, we'll rag on him for his gayness.

You probably know how the retard thing works, right?

With "Nigger" however, that means black person. I think in america you have black stereotypes but not so much in my neck of the woods so I can't think of a situation where someone would do something that reminded me of a black person, aside from having dark skin which doesn't happen to white people.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Okay, acknowledged. That was mostly directed at Vex anyway.

"Faggot" yes, "retard" yes, "nigger" no. I've never seen a non-black person acting stereotypically dark skinned, which is how the others work as insults.

What the actual fuck does this mean?

For whatever reason, a lot of straight guys find the concept of fucking a man in the ass funny as hell. Most wouldn't deny a guy the right if that's his thing but, from my point of view at least, it's definitely funny. So when someone I'm with says something in conversation that could be construed (however tangentially) as a come on or something like that, we'll rag on him for his gayness.

You probably know how the retard thing works, right?

With "Nigger" however, that means black person. I think in america you have black stereotypes but not so much in my neck of the woods so I can't think of a situation where someone would do something that reminded me of a black person, aside from having dark skin which doesn't happen to white people.

Huh, maybe somewhere elsewhere you can avoid being a baboon-hooting pussyflogging piece of shit.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Okay, acknowledged. That was mostly directed at Vex anyway.

"Faggot" yes, "retard" yes, "nigger" no. I've never seen a non-black person acting stereotypically dark skinned, which is how the others work as insults.

What the actual fuck does this mean?

For whatever reason, a lot of straight guys find the concept of fucking a man in the ass funny as hell. Most wouldn't deny a guy the right if that's his thing but, from my point of view at least, it's definitely funny. So when someone I'm with says something in conversation that could be construed (however tangentially) as a come on or something like that, we'll rag on him for his gayness.

You probably know how the retard thing works, right?

With "Nigger" however, that means black person. I think in america you have black stereotypes but not so much in my neck of the woods so I can't think of a situation where someone would do something that reminded me of a black person, aside from having dark skin which doesn't happen to white people.

Huh, maybe somewhere elsewhere you can avoid being a baboon-hooting pussyflogging piece of shit.

Mayeb you could teach me some time 

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

What's so difficult about making a distinction between lived knowledge and vicarious knowledge?

[Cain]

In retrospect, discussing libertarianism wasn't so bad.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

In retrospect, discussing libertarianism wasn't so bad.

Ah yes, the "rehashing" trope.

Communication breaks down around particular subjects, therefore I shan't ever discuss it again!

Rather than improve my communication skills, I'll just stand by and tsk-tsk the foolish attempts at understanding or making a point in an emotionally charged topic.

[Cain]

Actually not what I was implying.

But don't let that get in the way of your self-righteous rush.  I know you love rehasing the "Cain is being a dick" trope at every possible opportunity.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Actually not what I was implying.

But don't let that get in the way of your self-righteous rush.  I know you love rehasing the "Cain is being a dick" trope at every possible opportunity.

What were you implying?

[Cain]

That the large amount of personally heated disagreement and drama these threads is apparently causing makes the libertarian threads seem a lot less worse by comparison.  I could have used "anarchism" or "magick" just as well in the same sentence, and considered it.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Feminism: even worse than libertarian, anarchism, or magickque threads.

Got it.