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Unlimited "Guns, Fuck Yeah!" Thread

Started by AFK, January 20, 2013, 12:56:35 AM

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AFK

Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
Flamebait thread.

We already had a thread to discuss gun control (or not).  Why does RWHN want to start another one? 


Because I fucking wanted to, that's why.  No one is forcing anyone to click, read, or post. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2013, 05:51:37 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 20, 2013, 05:47:51 AM
Precedent, both in terms of the history of gun regulation in this country and in terms of products being banned for public safety, says yes.  But it isn't that it is granted in the 2nd, it's that gun regulation is not forbidden by the 2nd.

You still aren't seeming to grasp the whole "list of granted powers" thing.

Again, I refer you to amendments IX and X.


And I would refer you to all the gun control that has happened that hasn't been struck down as unconstitutional, including an assault weapon ban passed during the Clinton administration, that is only gone now because it wasn't renewed by Congress. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 20, 2013, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 20, 2013, 10:36:07 AM
It's also interesting, as a general observation, that nobody got REALLY hot and bothered about this shit until it happened to a bunch of well-to-do white kids in CT. I definitely didn't see this outrage over black kids in Chicago dying by the hundreds from gang violence every year, or over all the young men dying in Mexico full of bullets shot from guns that largely came from the USA. So again, it seems to be mostly "ain't it awful" and that powerful fear/ignorance combination fed by the incessant hype of the 24 hour news cycle and not a whole lot of rational ideas, facts, or constructive dialogue.


20 kids gunned down in their school IS awful.  Period.  That's not hype, that's truth.  20 kids who will no longer be getting on and off a bus every day.  20 empty chairs at dinner tables.  And all they were doing was going to school.  That shit is wrong.


Yes, people SHOULD be outraged by the 87 who die a day from gun violence.  People SHOULD be mad about the inner city kids being killed.  This SHOULD be a constant conversation until meaningful policy change is enacted to measurably reduce gun violence.  I completely agree.

And yet it took a handful of well-to-do white kids dying for you to post this thread.

Also, you haven't defined "assault weapon" nor given any specific ideas as to exactly what kind of additional restrictions on gun sales you think should be enacted.

So basically you don't appear to have any ideas or solutions or even any constructive criticism of the ideas that are at odds with your views on the subject. One is forced to come to the conclusion that you're either using an emotionally loaded subject in an attempt to start another flame thread, or that you actually don't know fuck-all about what you're talking about when it comes to guns.

I suspect it's both.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

AFK

I started the thread because it is something I wanted to write about and discuss.  That's how these message boards work.  And yes, it IS an emotional subject.  It sure as fuck should be. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

East Coast Hustle

Do you typically start emotionally loaded discussions about subjects in which you are sorely lacking in knowledge?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

AFK

I know that we have a toxic gun culture in this country that is resulting in many deaths daily.  Changes need to be made.  No, I'm certainly not going to put forth myself as the gun expert to write the law that says which gun is banned and which isn't.  I trust that there are plenty of experts for gun control who are also gun experts.  But it doesn't take a gun expert to understand the big picture here which is we have a problem that needs to be fixed.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

East Coast Hustle

So it doesn't take any specific knowledge of the problem to solve the problem?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

East Coast Hustle

I mean, I'm just wondering if you have a point or if you just started a thread to say "DEAD KIDS BAD!" as though it were some sort of revelation.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

AFK

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 20, 2013, 12:56:35 AM
This thread is to celebrate the glory of American Gun Culture.  Because, Fuck Yeah, Guns!
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

HEY GUYS GUYS GUYS

I have a solution for homelessness!

We just need to ban tents.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Salty

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 20, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
HEY GUYS GUYS GUYS

I have a solution for homelessness!

We just need to ban tents.

Nononono, we only have to ban comfortable tents.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Cain

I once killed a man with a semiautomatic assault tent.

LMNO


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

We need to STOP the homeless problem. It's completely unacceptable. We need more laws to prevent public sleeping and resting.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."