Unlimited "Guns, Fuck Yeah!" Thread

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So do you agree with that article or not?  YOU posted it.  Did you actually read the whole thing before you posted it?  Because it was made pretty clear in that article that, while yes it is a complex issue, gun control must be ONE element of the overall solution.

I think it's fairly obvious that policy changes could act to reduce gun deaths... my guess is that you're preaching to the choir here, Reverend.

Did YOU read it?

You sure do seem to be itching for a fight. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

But back to resolving the homeless problem. If we took away the tools that allow them to survive without a proper house, we could definitely reduce the number of people sleeping outdoors.

[Cain]

Cold doesn't kill people....throwing people out into the cold does!

[AFK]

So do you agree with that article or not?  YOU posted it.  Did you actually read the whole thing before you posted it?  Because it was made pretty clear in that article that, while yes it is a complex issue, gun control must be ONE element of the overall solution.

I think it's fairly obvious that policy changes could act to reduce gun deaths... my guess is that you're preaching to the choir here, Reverend.

Did YOU read it?

You sure do seem to be itching for a fight. 

Read the whole thing, and again, it echoed what I've already said in this thread.  But, some in this thread don't agree with gun control being an element of the solution, which is why it is as many pages as it is.  So, no, it's not all choir.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Cold doesn't kill people....throwing people out into the cold does!

No, Cain. The obvious solution is to ban winter.

[Cain]

Cold doesn't kill people....throwing people out into the cold does!

No, Cain. The obvious solution is to ban winter.

General's Janvier and Fevrier are war criminals.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So do you agree with that article or not?  YOU posted it.  Did you actually read the whole thing before you posted it?  Because it was made pretty clear in that article that, while yes it is a complex issue, gun control must be ONE element of the overall solution.

I think it's fairly obvious that policy changes could act to reduce gun deaths... my guess is that you're preaching to the choir here, Reverend.

Did YOU read it?

You sure do seem to be itching for a fight. 

Read the whole thing, and again, it echoed what I've already said in this thread.  But, some in this thread don't agree with gun control being an element of the solution, which is why it is as many pages as it is.  So, no, it's not all choir.

Gun control is a band-aid. I think you only read the parts of the article that support gun control, and completely ignored parts like this:

English Sociologist Richard Wilkinson has brought this out in books and lectures, especially his TEDx lecture on the roots of violence and crime, in which he charts that countries with the most inequality in wealth are also the most violent countries. And surprise, the U.S. is now one of the most unequal countries—in terms of wealth and opportunities for wealth—in the world, as has been brought out by the CIA World Factbook. It is ranked 94th of the 136 countries ranked by the for income inequality, close to Camaroon, Zimbabwe, some of Africa's poorest countries.

I assume you can't or won't look at the research I posted.

The reason I posted those articles is because while I don't disagree with gun control, the articles support the position that gun violence is most strongly driven by economic factors, which is why I used the tent simile.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Cold doesn't kill people....throwing people out into the cold does!

No, Cain. The obvious solution is to ban winter.

General's Janvier and Fevrier are war criminals.

[Don Coyote]

Does my inability to privately own a nuclear bomb infringe my right to bear arms? I realize that i publically own several via the us military. Nunchaku are illegal in massachusetts. While i think it a silly restriction i dont feel my rights are infringed there.

1.  By my standards, if you can afford a nuke, go nuts.  Better get it before some hippie has a hissy fit.  Of course, every nation on Earth, and international law, separates gas, germs, and nukes from "arms".  Silly fuckers.

2.  Why would nunchaku be illegal?  They're just two sticks and string.  Jesus H Christ.

I suspect because "gangs" and they are scary. California is Mass. in that respect with hand weapons.

[Cain]

Nunchucks are awesome.

They let you know the person attacking you should not in any possible way be taken seriously or as a threat to anything except themselves.

[AFK]

So do you agree with that article or not?  YOU posted it.  Did you actually read the whole thing before you posted it?  Because it was made pretty clear in that article that, while yes it is a complex issue, gun control must be ONE element of the overall solution.

I think it's fairly obvious that policy changes could act to reduce gun deaths... my guess is that you're preaching to the choir here, Reverend.

Did YOU read it?

You sure do seem to be itching for a fight. 

Read the whole thing, and again, it echoed what I've already said in this thread.  But, some in this thread don't agree with gun control being an element of the solution, which is why it is as many pages as it is.  So, no, it's not all choir.

Gun control is a band-aid. I think you only read the parts of the article that support gun control, and completely ignored parts like this:

English Sociologist Richard Wilkinson has brought this out in books and lectures, especially his TEDx lecture on the roots of violence and crime, in which he charts that countries with the most inequality in wealth are also the most violent countries. And surprise, the U.S. is now one of the most unequal countries—in terms of wealth and opportunities for wealth—in the world, as has been brought out by the CIA World Factbook. It is ranked 94th of the 136 countries ranked by the for income inequality, close to Camaroon, Zimbabwe, some of Africa's poorest countries.

I assume you can't or won't look at the research I posted.

The reason I posted those articles is because while I don't disagree with gun control, the articles support the position that gun violence is most strongly driven by economic factors, which is why I used the tent simile.

Yes, and again, gun control is ONE tool.  Economics is syndemic and impacts all kinds of shit, including what I do. Economic improvement should ALWAYS be on the forefront.  But, while you are working on that, you can also work on other factors, as part of an overall strategic plan.  And in any kind of comprehensive strategic plan, you are looking at more than just one root cause, you are looking at several and addressing several.  That's how this stuff works.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The interesting thing is that people are so focused on one relatively minor aspect that addresses a symptom rather than a cause.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nunchucks are awesome.

They let you know the person attacking you should not in any possible way be taken seriously or as a threat to anything except themselves.

Totally true. Also, throwing stars.

[Cain]

I actually used to practice with nunchucks.

Not for combat.  It was purely coordination and reflexes.  Attempting to not hit yourself while pulling off pretty-looking moves is actually really really hard.  It's like having an unpredictable and painful sparring partner to train with.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I actually used to practice with nunchucks.

Not for combat.  It was purely coordination and reflexes.  Attempting to not hit yourself while pulling off pretty-looking moves is actually really really hard.  It's like having an unpredictable and painful sparring partner to train with.

Yeah, the one time I messed with nunchucks, I hurt myself.