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A Demonstration of Learned Behavior, in Allegorical Form

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, April 17, 2013, 02:44:10 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Day 1:  Roger gets hammered on benzos and bourbon, and staggers up to ECH & Richter, who are quietly discussing the price of various blunt and sharp objects down at the pub.  Roger informs them both that they are motherfuckers, and he's going to kick both of their asses on the spot.  ECH & Richter angrily stand up, and do all manner of grievous bodily harm to Roger, and throw him out in the back alley, to be molested by crackheads.  Roger feels the pain, and thinks he has learned.

Day 2:  Roger has another head full of booze and pills, and spying Richter and ECH at their table, decides they got lucky.  He walks over and offers to skullfuck them both, individually or both at once.  Richter and ECH stare at each other in disbelief, then bounce Roger off his drunk ass head a few times, then kick him all the way to the back door.  Hello, crackheads.  Roger feels the pain even more acutely, and thinks he has learned.

Day 3:  Roger, drunk & hopped up on more pills, is going to teach those two assholes a lesson they won't forget.  So he staggers up to their table, and attempts a sucker punch.  He misses.  Richter and ECH sigh in exasperation, and do the Chicago two step on his torso for 10 minutes, douse his hands in booze, and set them on fire.  Then it's off to see the crackheads again.  Roger feels that he has, in fact, this time, learned.

Day 4:  ECH and Richter enjoy their drinks in peace, because Roger has in fact learned three things.  What are those things?
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Cainad (dec.)

I'll admit, I'm actually stumped. Too stumped to even come up with a quip to respond with.

The Good Reverend Roger

I shall reveal the answers tomorrow, though I suspect that by then, either ECH or Richter will have explained at least two of the three.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

The logical conclusion is that Roger learned it's too much trouble to get out of bed after three days of that.

But that's just one thing.

Stumped.
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LMNO

1. Two on one only works in Kung fu movies.
2. Don't fuck with people you respect.
3. WHEN YOU'RE ON BOOZE AND PILLS, YOUR ACTIONS AND MOTIVATIONS ARE INHERENTLY SUSPECT.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 17, 2013, 04:21:43 AM
1. Two on one only works in Kung fu movies.
2. Don't fuck with people you respect.
3. WHEN YOU'RE ON BOOZE AND PILLS, YOUR ACTIONS AND MOTIVATIONS ARE INHERENTLY SUSPECT.

All very valid, especially #3, but not where I was going.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

1.) Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result.
2.) Next time it won't be the hands that are doused in alcohol, judging by the escalation.
3.) The Chicago 2 step done by two people on one torso equals many broken ribs, which makes it hard to drink the bourbon and swallow the benzos.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 17, 2013, 04:38:46 AM
1.) Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result.
2.) Next time it won't be the hands that are doused in alcohol, judging by the escalation.
3.) The Chicago 2 step done by two people on one torso equals many broken ribs, which makes it hard to drink the bourbon and swallow the benzos.

Also very good.  Also not where I was going.  I am enjoying these though, keep them coming folks.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

Skip the ECH and Richter harassing, skip from booze and benzos straight to the crackheads? :P
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

The Johnny

something along the lines of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results each time being the definition of insanity

OR

people think they have learned something out of a past traumatic event just because of some "self growth" bullshit without actually doing any insight and true learning from the experience?

maybe im overthinking it
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Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2013, 05:33:36 AM
something along the lines of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results each time being the definition of insanity

OR

people think they have learned something out of a past traumatic event just because of some "self growth" bullshit without actually doing any insight and true learning from the experience?

maybe im overthinking it

I like that second bit, there. Having smashed my head into certain brick walls dozens of times before something actually clicks, that sounds plausible. And lashing out at friends doesn't make you a badass, it just makes you an ass.
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

Junkenstein

1 - Crackheads rarely move location  until arrested.
2 - Booze and Pills can cause behaviour patterns that may be detrimental.
3 - It generally takes 3 beatings and fire to learn any lesson worth learning.
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1. Learned behavior repeats no matter the external factors (punishment for the behavior doesn't stop the behavior, etc.)
2. Learned behavior can't (or is really difficult to) change because...
3. Learned behavior relies on egotism/self-bias. No matter the situation or the outcome the person is always right and everyone else is wrong. (Roger wanting to teach them a lesson because he thinks he's right, for example.)
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