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Started by Salty, May 09, 2013, 05:40:55 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Yeah, but you'd feel dirty.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Salty

Bbbbut I could clean myself with MONEY!11!1!1!

Seriously though, Im trying to work out a secular, rational, placebo like, thingy that doesn't sound stupid Something happens to people, in the brain, I think, during this kind of "work".

I've had very rationap people give me feedback that's just weird and I've experienced some weird things.

Not magic, but weird, and I assume in my brain.

I think that, for example, chakras are just pinpoints the brain easily identifies and works with at some level, even if just as a map. Just an idea, possibly a useful one.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Salty

Sooooo many lol.

Magical wizard self defense guru gets put to the test, and fails gloriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Jf-kGyesc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thanks Hoopla!
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Salty

Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.

BEHOLD:

http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf

QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.

This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Salty

OMG, I was thinking about offering Reflexology at my business. It's just about the best and most detailed kind of foot massage you can get and plenty of people look for it.

But I just can't. I am too embarrassed. After spending the last hour or so researching the industry, the history, and the experts in the field I can safely say there are few quack practices that quack quite so loudly while still maintaining some semblance of rationality, so called.

Idiots. IDIOTS.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

trippinprincezz13

It's too bad, really. I haven't had any reflexology work done, so can't comment much about it, but from what you said, it sounds like it does have something to it that works on an actual, physical level. Sounds like a good basis for a practice.

But then you've got to add all the "woo" to make it seem better? more exotic? magical?

So then you end up putting off people (potential customers, landlords, etc.) who don't want to deal/associate with the woo, and the ones that are attracted end up with some sort of false hope/expectations. I know it's not that cut and dry, but maybe the general idea?

It's why we can't have nice things. Someone's always got to paint unicorns and sprinkle fairy dust on it.
There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you, may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution.

If there is no order in your sexual life it may be difficult to stay with a whole skin.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:51:57 AM
OMG, I was thinking about offering Reflexology at my business. It's just about the best and most detailed kind of foot massage you can get and plenty of people look for it.

But I just can't. I am too embarrassed. After spending the last hour or so researching the industry, the history, and the experts in the field I can safely say there are few quack practices that quack quite so loudly while still maintaining some semblance of rationality, so called.

Idiots. IDIOTS.

There's got to be a way to get Alty paid to go undercover with these people and do some kind of expose documentary.

If you could keep a straight face for long enough that is. 
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Salty

Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 25, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
It's too bad, really. I haven't had any reflexology work done, so can't comment much about it, but from what you said, it sounds like it does have something to it that works on an actual, physical level. Sounds like a good basis for a practice.

But then you've got to add all the "woo" to make it seem better? more exotic? magical?

So then you end up putting off people (potential customers, landlords, etc.) who don't want to deal/associate with the woo, and the ones that are attracted end up with some sort of false hope/expectations. I know it's not that cut and dry, but maybe the general idea?

It's why we can't have nice things. Someone's always got to paint unicorns and sprinkle fairy dust on it.

Well, here's the thing about this practice:
(BTW I am writing up a full history and expose of sorts on this subject, this is just a quick and dirty version. I will post links here when the content is up on my new site)

Reflexology was created by two people in the 1930's. Originally it was called Zone Therapy, created by Dr. William Fitzgerald, an Ear, Nose, and Throat specialist. He, all by his little lonesome, came to the conclusion, based off the work of neurologist Sir Henry Head (who discovered how nerves run through the body?). Dr. Fitzgerald would place rubber bands and clothes pins on areas of the feet in an effort to induce an anesthesia effect elsewhere in the body. He separated the feet into different "zones", with each foot being one half of the body, and then further separated horizontally for the main body sections, head and neck, and the area above the diaphragm and below. He laid five vertical lines. This was meant to give a rough map of how to affect a numbing effect.

THEN a physical therapist who worked under Dr. Fitzgerald, Eunice Ingham, all by her little lonesome, drew up a map with the various spots on the feet corresponding to specific organs, and claimed that this could heal all sorts of diseases.

THAT IS IT.

The entire notion of reflexology comes from a couple health professionals fucking around and drawing pictures which SEEM to make sense.

That is not enough for the basis of any practice. There is not one lick of evidence that suggests that pressing on these reflex points, so called, by random quacks, does anything that any details foot massage won't do.

I have scoured the internet for evidence, research, FACTS, and there is NOTHING. All the studies available fail, fail, fail. None of them have proper controls, none of them show anything that suggest reflexology is nothing more than a detailed foot massage. There are benefits, yes, such as any detailed massage may offer.

Perhaps moreso than other parts of the body due to the focus on nerve endings. Perhaps moreso because of the heavy detail. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. Nobody knows because there is no science, none. And in every instance there is an attempt at science it does not show conclusively that this method does anything to treat any disease.

QUACK QUACK QUACK.

Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.

I'm the foot fucking master.

And that's thanks to reflexology. But that is all it is good for.

So I refuse to call what I do by that name, there is no logos to be found.

As I said, I will be writing this all in more detail. I will show the "studies" out there for what they are, as well as the organizations that tout them.

They are gonna feel the pain, oh yes.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Salty

Damn, I think this thread has more views than all my other threads combined.

:fnord:

Guess I'll be using the phrase "newage sewage scum" a lot in my SEO techniques.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

LMNO

Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:40:23 PM

Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.

I'm the foot fucking master.


You keep this up, I'm gonna start calling you Vincent.

Salty

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 25, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:40:23 PM

Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.

I'm the foot fucking master.


You keep this up, I'm gonna start calling you Vincent.

I try to channel him very time I go to work.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

LMNO

Bring your gun with you when you take a shit.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.

BEHOLD:

http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf

QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.

This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.

:lol: Doctor of what, though?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Alty, my one regret of your visit is not asking you for a massage. No homo, man, I just want to take off my clothes and have you touch me hard all over.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Pæs

Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 01:54:45 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.

BEHOLD:

http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf

QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.

This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.

:lol: Doctor of what, though?
Solutions, clearly.