Angelina Jolie cuts her boobs off to save her life; douchebags unite to lament.

[East Coast Hustle]

Good point, Stelz.

If you make the conscious choice to market yourself as a commodity based on your physical attractiveness at the expense of presenting yourself as someone with even a shred of depth, you shouldn't expect any other reaction when you tell your fans that part of what made you attractive to them is gone.

Fucked up and indicative of much deeper problems in our society? of course. But hardly a surprise.

[Suu]

I get that, totally. But it's that deeper problem thats bothering me so much, I think.

If you're so caught up in the ideals of idol worship that when someone loses a piece of their physical beauty, so to speak, to a disease, you lash out against them for being less beautiful and less of that idol you worshiped. It's almost like saying you'd rather that person die so that you can have your eye candy, rather than have anything taken away that gives you pleasure. For some reason, I can't wrap my head around this level of stupidity. I can feel my brain facepalming, I guess. 

[East Coast Hustle]

Yeah, we're a particularly self-centered tribe of a particularly self-centered species. That's the single biggest reason I don't like us all that much.

[Salty]

On one hand, this places Angelina Jolie, actress, model, mother, activist, icon in the precarious position of undergoing a personally traumatic and career-risking medical procedure.

On the other hand, it must be nice to have good coverage. Or any coverage. Or people who care about their medical procedures.

[Junkenstein]

That's part of what galls me about the inevitable "Isn't it awful / X is soooo Brave press coverage.

I'll be clear now - It's a shitty, shitty disease. Making the choice that maximises your life expectancy would be the correct thing to do in most cases.

The coverage however, inevitably will focus on what she has lost, if it is a meaningful loss and the relationships of breast to femininity. The access to medical care side is fairly neglected.

Now consider this:



How many people in that circle see a doctor regularly, let alone have access to advanced preventative medical procedures?

I really hate that number.

But no, we must focus on the Icons with access to the finest of care.

[Suu]

On one hand, this places Angelina Jolie, actress, model, mother, activist, icon in the precarious position of undergoing a personally traumatic and career-risking medical procedure.

On the other hand, it must be nice to have good coverage. Or any coverage. Or people who care about their medical procedures.

I have shitty coverage, it is NOT better than no coverage. Why? Because with no coverage, I had access to organizations that would subsidize my care and I still had to shell out almost $300 every time I walked into the clinic to get my cervix poked at. With the coverage I paid $1200 for, that same care cost me $415, because then you get in the bills from every fucking lab that looks at your shit, from $15 to $360. Only the pap is covered 100%, because it's required to be by law. Biopsies are not.

Don't get me wrong, I will pay my bills, I will ensure that the money I give to Planned Parenthood goes back into the non-profit that helped me, but I basically paid for coverage to pay more money. That tells me the system is fucking broken. That tells me the idea of even having insurance is a fucking scam. It saved me nothing, it just alerted more companies into asking me for money, because I'm not on that level of being unable to afford care. I'm no longer a charity case,  now I'm some bourgeoisie that can be shaken upside down for cash, and they won't feel bad about it.

Sure, she can afford the best, and all the copays that come with it, but she still elected to take the preventative measure, instead of the "what if," probably getting cancer, and probably surviving it because of the best care. Just because you can afford things, doesn't make living with cancer easier, it probably just makes it more expensive for her, too. Why? Because people know she can afford it, so they're gonna shake her down for coins, too.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I get that, totally. But it's that deeper problem thats bothering me so much, I think.

If you're so caught up in the ideals of idol worship that when someone loses a piece of their physical beauty, so to speak, to a disease, you lash out against them for being less beautiful and less of that idol you worshiped. It's almost like saying you'd rather that person die so that you can have your eye candy, rather than have anything taken away that gives you pleasure. For some reason, I can't wrap my head around this level of stupidity. I can feel my brain facepalming, I guess. 

Pretty much this.

[East Coast Hustle]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

Hell yeah. Good on her for not letting all that stuff fuck her perspective up and warp her priorities.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

Hell yeah. Good on her for not letting all that stuff fuck her perspective up and warp her priorities.

Apparently, she's received thousands of letters begging her not to do it and reviling her for her decision. People are pretty awful about this issue, and a lot of them seem to view a woman having a mastectomy like someone's taking their toys away. It's gross.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, I would be sad if I had to make a decision like that, but to have people literally saying they would rather I was dead than not have nice tits is insane.

[Suu]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

Hell yeah. Good on her for not letting all that stuff fuck her perspective up and warp her priorities.

Apparently, she's received thousands of letters begging her not to do it and reviling her for her decision. People are pretty awful about this issue, and a lot of them seem to view a woman having a mastectomy like someone's taking their toys away. It's gross.

Again, brain facepalm.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

Hell yeah. Good on her for not letting all that stuff fuck her perspective up and warp her priorities.

Apparently, she's received thousands of letters begging her not to do it and reviling her for her decision. People are pretty awful about this issue, and a lot of them seem to view a woman having a mastectomy like someone's taking their toys away. It's gross.

You know what, if she's not willing to fight and even die for her tits, she doesn't really deserve them. May as well just cut them off...

_{(going to go shoot my face off now, kthx)}

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There is one interesting question to be asked here:

If she were still an up-and-coming actress whose career was largely dependent on her looks, would she have made the same choice?

Like the young Miss America contestant who recently went the same route in her early 20's?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57563485/miss-america-contestant-allyn-rose-to-get-double-mastectomy/

Who knows.

Hell yeah. Good on her for not letting all that stuff fuck her perspective up and warp her priorities.

Apparently, she's received thousands of letters begging her not to do it and reviling her for her decision. People are pretty awful about this issue, and a lot of them seem to view a woman having a mastectomy like someone's taking their toys away. It's gross.

You know what, if she's not willing to fight and even die for her tits, she doesn't really deserve them. May as well just cut them off...

_{(going to go shoot my face off now, kthx)}

[hooplala]

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