Cops gone wild

[P3nT4gR4m]

Here's something that just occurred to me. Maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong so I'll throw it out there for you lot to chew on.

The main problem is not the famous one percent we keep hearing about. If it was I'd fix it this afternoon, after I get home from work and before my dinner. The main problem is the billions of dumbasses (me included) who go along with it.

The solution must lie in motivating billions of dumbasses?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Here's something that just occurred to me. Maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong so I'll throw it out there for you lot to chew on.

The main problem is not the famous one percent we keep hearing about. If it was I'd fix it this afternoon, after I get home from work and before my dinner. The main problem is the billions of dumbasses (me included) who go along with it.

The solution must lie in motivating billions of dumbasses?

Yeah,  pretty much.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

For me it's the choice between standing in front of some imaginary god, at the end and answering the question "how was it?" with either "fucking hated it and accomplished nothing" or "that was fucking awesome, when can I have another go?"

Such is the nature of privilege.

[The Johnny]

I don't think the format of "something magically insurrected everyone, and now we're gonna march on the capital and change everything" is actually real, because when that happens, its either a situation where 30% of the population are starving to death or there's instigator agents from a foreign power...

Having said that, I had the opportunity to study and get the training to be paid to do "good things", not everyone gets that opportunity... even with this opportunity i have of choosing, I am faced with the constant threat of corruption and negligence by either my subordinates, work-team or superiors, so the best i can do is, do the "right thing", whichever it might be in the given situation, and that usually involves putting oneself in very volatile situations in which denouncing can fix things, but it can also lead to oneself getting fired.

So my main ideas would be:

*Talk is cheap, actions are what count.

*One can (should?) only make ethical decisions/actions within the realms of one's sphere of influence, but that can have a domino effect that goes beyond what is immediatly recognizable.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Raising a big stink and affecting public opinion can be a surprisingly effective method of changing public policy, though.

[Left]

The solution must lie in motivating billions of dumbasses?

Actually, probably a little less than a billion to achieve critical mass....
But still...

[Cain]

The Catholic Church has managed to motivate a billion dumbasses.

Are you gonna let yourselves get outplayed by a bunch of robe wearing, Latin chanting sex predators?

[Left]

Are you gonna let yourselves get outplayed by a bunch of robe wearing, Latin chanting sex predators?

Yeah, we gotta step it up.

(FYI-above image is that of a sign made by someone abused by a priest, as a protest...he installed several of them in the neighborhood of the church in his town.)

[LMNO]

The Catholic Church has managed to motivate a billion dumbasses.

Are you gonna let yourselves get outplayed by a bunch of robe wearing, Latin chanting sex predators?

[The Johnny]

The Catholic Church has managed to motivate manipulate a billion dumbasses.

Are you gonna let yourselves get outplayed by a bunch of robe wearing, Latin chanting sex predators?

This isnt directed at you per se, but a derivative of several comments ITT.

All the memebombs project is a failure for the same reason the more elaborate interaction done by Jehovah's Witnesses is shutdown: people in general will not listen attentively or critically at anything that does not fit into their worldview and representations, they will simply dismiss it.

In this forum communication is possible because everyone shares to a certain point a worldview and the basic infrastructure to view things critically, so we kind of speak the same language and are able to understand each other; now, if everyone would notice, there are a lot of shared assumptions in that communication, and anyone that doesnt have the "basic critical thinking infrastructure" to them it will all sound like crazy talk or another factions circle-jerk.

I recommend this exersice for everyone here in PD: how much of what we say is preaching to the choir?

Now, regarding communication/motivation vs. manipulation... manipulation is aimed at our "reptilian brain" (so to speak), and the message is constructed in the manner in which it cannot be ignored ignored in the sense that it WILL provoke a reaction, and it is intrinsically targeted at our most basic fears and desires... communication is aimed at our higher brain functions, in which data/phenomena that is interpreted in a certain manner to imply a conclusion/course-of-action, but that implies active effort, responsability for one's own actions and not following the "law/lifestyle" of the path of least resistance.

It can be called behaviorism, or it can be called "stick and carrot", whichever you prefer, but the basics it refers to is the immediacy of the moment and the inability to see beyond that due to either a lack of education, the daily pressures of making rent and surviving, or an attempt at a short-sighted "happy" life.

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me comfort or give me whatever!