People in North Providence see Mary on a cross.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Interesting that it was the Ides of March too, lol

The Ides can also be the 18th. We do not know when Julius Caesar was assassinated. However, the coincidence with the birth of Jesus could be allegorical. Rome died when Christ was born.

...Welcome to my fucking academic world.

I clearly need to come down to Provvy for some beers soon.

[Suu]

Meh that didn't happen, it's a prediction.  Maybe he find some cosmic viagra and gets his groove back.

Well, that is a matter of theological debate. Since I'm still pretending to be a Christian, I fall into the camp of Revelation describing in allegory the societal climate of the Roman Empire at the time it was written, or, as I think Suu put it once, a pissy letter to the Emperor by a butthurt Christian who couldn't even get martyred.

John was a douchenozzle. He brought it upon himself. Nero thought he was a joke, and his letter pissed off Domitian so bad it caused a persecution.

Pretty bad if the Antichrist himself thinks you're a joke and puts you on an island. Especially where Nero was fond of killing people just because.

And Domitian was no better. As far as the Flavians go, he was a total psycho. His father Vespasian was a known anti-Semite to begin with and was responsible for the second destruction of the Temple of Solomon. His brother Titus was a decent dude who had to go survey the damage at Pompeii...and then Domitian was the little cunt who didn't do well in school and liked to stab flies with pen quills.

[Suu]

A point to remember is that during the early Roman Empire, Christianity was viewed as a branch of Judaism. You were no less Jewish than the Jews that started the revolt.

[Trivial]

I still don't see fucking Mary.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+face+in+clouds

Never mind that we have no historical proof that Jesus the Messiah was a single person and not a bunch of people named Jesus doing the same shit around the same time, let alone a photograph of someone to show that he looked like someone who broke all fashion custom in Judaea at the time.

Twid,
Remembers something about Paul of Tarsus saying something about it being shameful for men to have long hair.

Thought it was the opposite.  Or was that about beards?

[Suu]

I still don't see fucking Mary.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+face+in+clouds

Never mind that we have no historical proof that Jesus the Messiah was a single person and not a bunch of people named Jesus doing the same shit around the same time, let alone a photograph of someone to show that he looked like someone who broke all fashion custom in Judaea at the time.

Twid,
Remembers something about Paul of Tarsus saying something about it being shameful for men to have long hair.

Thought it was the opposite.  Or was that about beards?

I think it might have been beards. In this period, the beard was a symbol of Greek maturity and wisdom. Philosophers had beards, so the Roman Emperors eventually copied them in the 2nd Century. Paul of Tarsus was wacked out enough that he would see anything that was Greek or Roman as a threat to his sooper speshul version of Judaism. Hence his whole diatribe on women not being educated, being kept virgins unless you absolutely had to get married and have children, etc. I think he never got laid. Seriously. He hated women and Romans with a burning passion. His letters were responded to as well, but they never made it in the Bible. So a lot of his arguments are in answer to questions asked by the Romans and Corinthians, but we'll never actually know what their responses were.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I still don't see fucking Mary.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+face+in+clouds

Never mind that we have no historical proof that Jesus the Messiah was a single person and not a bunch of people named Jesus doing the same shit around the same time, let alone a photograph of someone to show that he looked like someone who broke all fashion custom in Judaea at the time.

Twid,
Remembers something about Paul of Tarsus saying something about it being shameful for men to have long hair.

We have a Jeshua bar Joseph of Nazareth  born on March 15th on the Census of Quirinus in Bethlehem listed at age 2 months. He was a real dude. Whether or not he did anything miraculous, who the fuck knows. I blasted a militant atheist thread with this information once. They were all dumbfounded. Only one piped up to call me a liar until I translated golden age Latin for them. Then he felt like a tool.

I could discuss the relevance of the Bible as a Roman primary source for HOURS, but I'm not feeling it tonight. Paul of Tarsus can suck my taint. That man needed to get laid.

We also have written record of Muhammed existing. If he really ascended into heaven in full flesh and blood from the Temple Mount, who the hell knows.

Is there any record of a Roman soldier named Pantera from around that time?
You know, the guy alleged to be the "Holy Spirit" who knocked up Mary.

[Suu]

I still don't see fucking Mary.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+face+in+clouds

Never mind that we have no historical proof that Jesus the Messiah was a single person and not a bunch of people named Jesus doing the same shit around the same time, let alone a photograph of someone to show that he looked like someone who broke all fashion custom in Judaea at the time.

Twid,
Remembers something about Paul of Tarsus saying something about it being shameful for men to have long hair.

We have a Jeshua bar Joseph of Nazareth  born on March 15th on the Census of Quirinus in Bethlehem listed at age 2 months. He was a real dude. Whether or not he did anything miraculous, who the fuck knows. I blasted a militant atheist thread with this information once. They were all dumbfounded. Only one piped up to call me a liar until I translated golden age Latin for them. Then he felt like a tool.

I could discuss the relevance of the Bible as a Roman primary source for HOURS, but I'm not feeling it tonight. Paul of Tarsus can suck my taint. That man needed to get laid.

We also have written record of Muhammed existing. If he really ascended into heaven in full flesh and blood from the Temple Mount, who the hell knows.

Is there any record of a Roman soldier named Pantera from around that time?
You know, the guy alleged to be the "Holy Spirit" who knocked up Mary.

Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera was in the Germanic Legions. It's possible that he may have been serving in Judea around the time of Jesus' conception, but it seems like that was more of a conspiracy theory than anything palpable. Pantera was a cognomen that was common with the Germanics. It was a name you had to earn by being IN Germania for a while. Since we have record of his tombstone and years of service, it's pretty doubtful it was him.

James Tabor writes badly researched garbage, also.

[Cain]

*makes a joke about Dimebag Darrell and Jesus*

[Nephew Twiddleton]

*makes a joke about Dimebag Darrell and Jesus*

[Suu]

*makes a joke about Dimebag Darrell and Jesus*

at least it wasn't Phil Anselmo. that douchenozzle would think he WAS Jesus.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

 
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