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the Wholy Fnord - and Experimental DiPentatheon

Started by Ixxie, August 21, 2013, 10:30:17 PM

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In the spirit of treating mythology as the art of speaking of the ineffable, I have been messing around with a more expanded Discordian pantheon to allow a greater vocabulary for elaborated mythos. For I always felt Aneris should have been Male - and the consort of Eris (after all, isn't sex the ultimate physical symbol of non-duality?).

The Dude (cf. Dudism) corresponds to the closest thing I can see for a Discordian Buddha / Christ archetype - the Son, which represents the union of Order and Disorder. Of course these Buddha figures are inherently bias - they are Mystics and thus focus on guiding people from the Order of the Manifest to the Disorder of the Unmanifest. I have been trying to figure out what the reverse is - which would be the corresponding figure for the archetype of the Wizard. Simon Magus came to mind, and he definitely fits the bill, but I wanted a female. Then I found Hecate! She seems like the perfect deity for this role as a manifester, and is certainly considered a deity of Magi in European tradition. While the Dude is of the Way (= Dao = Chao), Hecate is the Goddess of Crossroads! She is traditionally depicted as a Three fold entity, which is fun because we can depict her as a five fold figure.

I earlier messed around with some Discordian elemental system http://www.fluxcraft.net/index.php/Magic, and I figures I could convert it to a DiPentatheon of Discordian Gods. The result is this silly sigil I call the Wholy Fnord. Some of these could probably do with improved names, especially Hecate which I particularly love.

As a fan of Alan Watts' work, I wanted to add Maya and Lilla (Illusion/Magic and Play in Sanskrit) - such beautiful names that fit the scheme so well. I envision them as eternally 5 year old androgenous deities - sometimes playing nice, sometimes fighting one another.



I might wanna try for a cosmogony later, but I am still questioning some of these choices. This could also possibly be used in an attempt to unify Discordianism with the SunGenius Church and Dudism, and expanding the pantheon to prevent it from being a trinity like Christianity xD
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 21, 2013, 10:46:36 PM
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Someone's out making up Gods to believe in again.

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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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Quote from: Ixxie on August 21, 2013, 10:30:17 PM
In the spirit of treating mythology as the art of speaking of the ineffable, I have been messing around with a more expanded Discordian pantheon to allow a greater vocabulary for elaborated mythos. For I always felt Aneris should have been Male - and the consort of Eris (after all, isn't sex the ultimate physical symbol of non-duality?).

The Dude (cf. Dudism) corresponds to the closest thing I can see for a Discordian Buddha / Christ archetype - the Son, which represents the union of Order and Disorder. Of course these Buddha figures are inherently bias - they are Mystics and thus focus on guiding people from the Order of the Manifest to the Disorder of the Unmanifest. I have been trying to figure out what the reverse is - which would be the corresponding figure for the archetype of the Wizard. Simon Magus came to mind, and he definitely fits the bill, but I wanted a female. Then I found Hecate! She seems like the perfect deity for this role as a manifester, and is certainly considered a deity of Magi in European tradition. While the Dude is of the Way (= Dao = Chao), Hecate is the Goddess of Crossroads! She is traditionally depicted as a Three fold entity, which is fun because we can depict her as a five fold figure.

I earlier messed around with some Discordian elemental system http://www.fluxcraft.net/index.php/Magic, and I figures I could convert it to a DiPentatheon of Discordian Gods. The result is this silly sigil I call the Wholy Fnord. Some of these could probably do with improved names, especially Hecate which I particularly love.

As a fan of Alan Watts' work, I wanted to add Maya and Lilla (Illusion/Magic and Play in Sanskrit) - such beautiful names that fit the scheme so well. I envision them as eternally 5 year old androgenous deities - sometimes playing nice, sometimes fighting one another.



I might wanna try for a cosmogony later, but I am still questioning some of these choices. This could also possibly be used in an attempt to unify Discordianism with the SunGenius Church and Dudism, and expanding the pantheon to prevent it from being a trinity like Christianity xD

Cool stuff.  Thanks for sharing!  I find this stuff very interesting.
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Pedantic point- magi refers to ancient zoroastrian priesthood which had no goddesses and was persian. Hecate is anatolian in origin.
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Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 21, 2013, 11:29:02 PM
Pedantic point- magi refers to ancient zoroastrian priesthood which had no goddesses and was persian. Hecate is anatolian in origin.

Gods are freely available at WalMart, now.  You can just go to the right aisle, and there you are.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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Quote from: Ixxie on August 21, 2013, 10:30:17 PM
Hecate is the Goddess of Crossroads! She is traditionally depicted as a Three fold entity, which is fun because we can depict her as a five fold figure.

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if that doesn't say triple goddess, get off the bridge

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 11:57:45 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 21, 2013, 11:29:02 PM
Pedantic point- magi refers to ancient zoroastrian priesthood which had no goddesses and was persian. Hecate is anatolian in origin.

Gods are freely available at WalMart, now.  You can just go to the right aisle, and there you are.
Should i consult my physician if i have an reaction to taking two gods at once?
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