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Miley Cyrus, Pedobear, and the Hollywood Spectacle

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, August 27, 2013, 08:43:45 PM

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Don Coyote

Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 07:14:11 AM
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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 12:25:55 AM.  But every decade or so, someone comes along and shoots the kneecap off the current musical scene.  They have to; if they didn't, the whole damn thing would go sterile. 

Of course, it's usually several people.  In this case, it was about 3 people.  Rhiana, Lady Gaga, and now this kid.  The whole twerk-pop no-effort bullshit scene is now as dead as jazz, and it's long past time.

This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. 

Granted, I'm also in the minority opinion, (on this board), that Lady Gaga is extremely overrated.  I mean, she's basically a living mash-up of Madonna and Marilyn Manson.  I'll give her that she has a decent voice.  Same with Rihanna, who is easily the most talented of the three, but none of them were groundbreaking. 

The music industry has long been deperately looking for another big Nirvana-like, sweeping cultural moment.  Hasn't happened and probably won't ever happen again, not on THAT scale.

It's way too watered down now.  Great music is still being made, to be sure, but not in that big landmark kind of way.

Nirvana was great music?  :lol:

Well, because they happened along when he was young, and are therefore better. Because now he is old, and things that young people are doing now are no good and not music, or creative.

So like people who claim Pearl Jam is good and/or music?

It might be, for them.

But that allows for the idea of differing valid viewpoints.

Well we can't have that now can we.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Don Coyote on October 08, 2013, 07:20:40 AM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 07:14:11 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on October 08, 2013, 07:10:11 AM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 02:33:32 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on October 08, 2013, 02:30:52 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 12:25:55 AM.  But every decade or so, someone comes along and shoots the kneecap off the current musical scene.  They have to; if they didn't, the whole damn thing would go sterile. 

Of course, it's usually several people.  In this case, it was about 3 people.  Rhiana, Lady Gaga, and now this kid.  The whole twerk-pop no-effort bullshit scene is now as dead as jazz, and it's long past time.

This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. 

Granted, I'm also in the minority opinion, (on this board), that Lady Gaga is extremely overrated.  I mean, she's basically a living mash-up of Madonna and Marilyn Manson.  I'll give her that she has a decent voice.  Same with Rihanna, who is easily the most talented of the three, but none of them were groundbreaking. 

The music industry has long been deperately looking for another big Nirvana-like, sweeping cultural moment.  Hasn't happened and probably won't ever happen again, not on THAT scale.

It's way too watered down now.  Great music is still being made, to be sure, but not in that big landmark kind of way.

Nirvana was great music?  :lol:

Well, because they happened along when he was young, and are therefore better. Because now he is old, and things that young people are doing now are no good and not music, or creative.

So like people who claim Pearl Jam is good and/or music?

It might be, for them.

But that allows for the idea of differing valid viewpoints.

Well we can't have that now can we.

Oh, certainly not, because that allows for the possibility of mutable truth, or subjective truth, or truths that vary depending upon culture or circumstance, and that can't possibly be permissible.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

You guys get awfully sensitive and threatened by my differing opinions.  Why is that?  Be more like me, stand firm, give no fucks.
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Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 02:33:32 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on October 08, 2013, 02:30:52 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 12:25:55 AM.  But every decade or so, someone comes along and shoots the kneecap off the current musical scene.  They have to; if they didn't, the whole damn thing would go sterile. 

Of course, it's usually several people.  In this case, it was about 3 people.  Rhiana, Lady Gaga, and now this kid.  The whole twerk-pop no-effort bullshit scene is now as dead as jazz, and it's long past time.

This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. 

Granted, I'm also in the minority opinion, (on this board), that Lady Gaga is extremely overrated.  I mean, she's basically a living mash-up of Madonna and Marilyn Manson.  I'll give her that she has a decent voice.  Same with Rihanna, who is easily the most talented of the three, but none of them were groundbreaking. 

The music industry has long been deperately looking for another big Nirvana-like, sweeping cultural moment.  Hasn't happened and probably won't ever happen again, not on THAT scale.

It's way too watered down now.  Great music is still being made, to be sure, but not in that big landmark kind of way.

Nirvana was great music?  :lol:

Well, because they happened along when he was young, and are therefore better. Because now he is old, and things that young people are doing now are no good and not music, or creative.

You can like Nirvana or not like Nirvana, but you'd have to be a bit culturally blind to not recognize the impact they had on American culture and the music industry.  They unseated the King of Pop and completely set the entire mainstream music industry on its ear.  Green Day doesn't become a big band without Nirvana.  Radiohead would've been stuck in the college music scene if Nirvana didn't happen.  It was a broad, large scale sea change.

Name me one band or artist that has had that level of impact since them.
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:ETA: " They unseated the King of Pop and completely set the entire mainstream music industry on its ear."

What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, I know, some journo came up with it to pad out his obit to 2000 words but, really, it doesn't actually mean anything.

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 08, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Vanilla Ice!

Your timeline is fucked.  Vanilla Ice's album came out in 1990. Nevermind was late 1991.  Nevermind that VI was a one-hit wonder and had no long-lasting impact on the hip hop genre.  Dr Dre and Snoop are better fits for that bill. 

Quote:ETA: " They unseated the King of Pop and completely set the entire mainstream music industry on its ear."

What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, I know, some journo came up with it to pad out his obit to 2000 words but, really, it doesn't actually mean anything.

Really?  Were you in a coma in the 90s?  The music scene before and after 1991 was completely different.  Before it was hairspray, glitz and glamour, big shiny music.  Nevermind took it back to basics.  Paved the way for tons of left-of-center bands that, before, were relegated to college radio stations and a small slice of MTV programming in the middle of the night on Sundays.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

At first: "I think Miley Cyrus did  that horrible thing on purpose"

RWHN: "NOPE!"

Miley Cyrus and entourage: "I did that on purpose"

RWHN: "WELL IT SUCKS ANYWAY".

That's really all  there is to what he has to say, can people stop responding to him and shitting up my thread now? I will in the future request that any RWHN posts and any responses to his posts be split from any of my threads, as he has nothing to add to the discussion.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Don Coyote on October 08, 2013, 07:10:11 AM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 02:33:32 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on October 08, 2013, 02:30:52 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 08, 2013, 12:25:55 AM.  But every decade or so, someone comes along and shoots the kneecap off the current musical scene.  They have to; if they didn't, the whole damn thing would go sterile. 

Of course, it's usually several people.  In this case, it was about 3 people.  Rhiana, Lady Gaga, and now this kid.  The whole twerk-pop no-effort bullshit scene is now as dead as jazz, and it's long past time.

This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. 

Granted, I'm also in the minority opinion, (on this board), that Lady Gaga is extremely overrated.  I mean, she's basically a living mash-up of Madonna and Marilyn Manson.  I'll give her that she has a decent voice.  Same with Rihanna, who is easily the most talented of the three, but none of them were groundbreaking. 

The music industry has long been deperately looking for another big Nirvana-like, sweeping cultural moment.  Hasn't happened and probably won't ever happen again, not on THAT scale.

It's way too watered down now.  Great music is still being made, to be sure, but not in that big landmark kind of way.

Nirvana was great music?  :lol:

Well, because they happened along when he was young, and are therefore better. Because now he is old, and things that young people are doing now are no good and not music, or creative.

So like people who claim Pearl Jam is good and/or music?

:lulz:

I know a guy whose youtube account is "PearlJamBlowsGoats" and he's EXACTLY that age.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 04:09:18 PM
At first: "I think Miley Cyrus did  that horrible thing on purpose"

RWHN: "NOPE!"

Miley Cyrus and entourage: "I did that on purpose"

RWHN: "WELL IT SUCKS ANYWAY".

That's really all  there is to what he has to say, can people stop responding to him and shitting up my thread now? I will in the future request that any RWHN posts and any responses to his posts be split from any of my threads, as he has nothing to add to the discussion.

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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on October 08, 2013, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 08, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Vanilla Ice!

Your timeline is fucked.  Vanilla Ice's album came out in 1990. Nevermind was late 1991.  Nevermind that VI was a one-hit wonder and had no long-lasting impact on the hip hop genre.  Dr Dre and Snoop are better fits for that bill. 

Quote:ETA: " They unseated the King of Pop and completely set the entire mainstream music industry on its ear."

What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, I know, some journo came up with it to pad out his obit to 2000 words but, really, it doesn't actually mean anything.

Really?  Were you in a coma in the 90s?  The music scene before and after 1991 was completely different.  Before it was hairspray, glitz and glamour, big shiny music.  Nevermind took it back to basics.  Paved the way for tons of left-of-center bands that, before, were relegated to college radio stations and a small slice of MTV programming in the middle of the night on Sundays.

Beavis and Butthead killed glam rock.  Nirvana was just sort of a pilot fish that wiggled loose.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.