Hauling Fascists Around By The Ankles

[Cain]

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[Kai]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

As I said earlier, I used it better. Also, you had me at "cladistic analysis of neorectionaries". That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.[/Montoya] 

~Kai,

Is sick of these fascists misusing systematics already.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

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Testimonial - Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

[Banned User 1]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.

I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.

On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".

Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.

[President Television]

If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Um, monarchism's been done.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.

I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.

On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".

Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.

[Banned User 1]

If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Um, monarchism's been done.

This whole idea of "neither chosing white nor black" rings very much of National Socialism in my ears in the sense that it is neither "the old way" or "communism"...just like what dear old uncle Adolph was going on about back when he was running for the chancellory.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Um, monarchism's been done.

This whole idea of "neither chosing white nor black" rings very much of National Socialism in my ears in the sense that it is neither "the old way" or "communism"...just like what dear old uncle Adolph was going on about back when he was running for the chancellory.

He never ran for chancellor.  He was appointed by Hindenberg.

But other than that, yes.

[Banned User 1]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

Failing to acknowledge boxes is the easiest way to get trapped in the box of "controlled opposition". Fuck the redpill...neo failed to leave the matrix m8. tfw you're neo.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

People in the cathedral, as well as "neoreactionaries" are both controlled opposition. They are both highly predictable and are undoubtedly highly compromised. Go look into both what happened with the occupy movement and with the militia movement. One is very much "cathedral" while the other could be said to be a collection of ethno-nationalists afraid of losing their rights to the brown masses...and both of them were infiltrated and thoroughly raped by the government.

If one or the other were in tune with the establishment, why did they both get attacked?

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

More pseudo-mystic word games. If I wanted that, I'd go read a D&D manual or K&R's ANSI C book. Those have more relevant info in them.

[Cain]

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[Faust]

What if anything does that have to do with the Golden Dawn not wanting, blacks, hippies, homosexuals or foreigners  in Greece?

What is counter culture about that mentality?

Also if you choose to respond to that, please don't tar and feather me as either a leftist or neoliberal.

-Totalitarian Faust

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

I do not want the drugs BN is selling.

Seriously, dude, I had to argue down a GMOS WILL INFECT US ALL bleeding heart moron last week, and you are literally the craziest person I've ever met outside a locked ward.

[Salty]

Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.

The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.

The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.

[Banned User 1]

Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.

You know that the guy who mentioned uncle adolph is actually is in disrepute with this community for referring to one of its respected members as a mulatto welfare queen, being an autistic pedant, and for generally being a bootstrapping, racist privledged libertarian white male, right?

If I'm the person who used the term "uncle adolph" is a leftist, then roger is an anorexic african-american genderqueer with a penchant for smoking crack cocaine.

The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power

Granted. However, it's pretty clear that the community has come to the conclusion that your movement is associated with these terms. Why don't you actually explain your movement in clear terms and correct us in our errors concerning our opinion on your ideals?

...as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at.

pseudo-mystic babble. what have I already said about the relation between this sort of talk and credibility. there are more grounded terms to use than "black magical incantations"...shit, cite godwin's law and say we made an argumentum ad hitlerum too quickly...that at least sounds like it has less cheese on it.

The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them.

Leftist/pseudo-progressivism uses the victem complex in order to ensnare people into a cult of "I'm opressed, you should feel bad" by stroking this victem complex and giving them cookies for whatever weird fetish or other crutch they have...

...by the same token, however, ("neo")reactionary movements stroke the ego of the people within the status quo by essentially pointing out that "the other" aims to take away their status (however low it may be) and by making appeals to collective acheivements of "the folk", "the race", "your kings" or appealing to things like "your individual soverignty", when in reality, it's just a way to make a filthy plebian "sign on" to the movement by making him feel associated with an "elite" by tenuous ties (again, such as race, history, collective motivation in "individualism"/"liberty" etc)

In short, both sides of the field pitch bullshit in order to make people sign up to "the movement". This is what I meant earlier with my shit about controlled opposition. Progressivist degenerates and Moldbuggian untermenschen alike are both full of shit, and it's literally just to make you feel like you should sign on to one "cause" or another...

Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral.

"memomancer" -- more pseudo-mystic shit. By etymology this should mean "communicates with memes"...I do this everyday on 4chan...

still, you should reconsider what words you use...it hurts your credibility to sound like a dumbass.

Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness language and ideas to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures and culture.

If you're going to construct a whole new alt. civilisation, I say shit or get off the pot. I know of many such organisations in TOR that would love someone to pitch ideas for their subversion of the modern state-centered world. Unfortunately, I'm sure a bunch of crypto-anarchists would have nothing to do with pseudo-monarchism. Distributism is more their game...

The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including the religion of progress. Progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.

This reminds me of how I though about a week after I read Heinlein's starship troopers. "Might makes right", "the only law is the law of physics"...well, the cathedral currently holds the status quo on that, so let's be glad they haven't decided to outright nuke the neoreactionaries out of existance with the orbital arm of his holiness's nuclear-mechanical military.

Seriously, if this is your case, the cathedral holds the monopoly on violence at the moment and it's by sheer luck that they have the grace to not genocide the entire lot of their opponents off the board...one should consider this.

[President Television]

Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.

The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.

The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.

And you still haven't refuted my point. It's been done. What's new? What are you bringing to the table that hasn't already failed? I'm tired of all the rhetoric. What's your model? What's your goal, and how do you intend to achieve it? You continually imply that our current opposition to the old bigotries is nothing more than a product of leftist propaganda, but on the basis of what evidence do you believe this? If smudgy people are truly inferior, I want proof. If women are truly inferior, I want proof. Anti-ideology cuts both ways.