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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #600 on: October 23, 2013, 09:36:13 pm »
Yeah, one of the Discordians they don't give a shit about.

So if this forum is so obscure and insignificant, why are you so worked up about people referring to you by your real name?


Because of creeps like Agrippa and Mr. Bear.


I have kids may I remind you.

Unlike anyone else on this board...


"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids, nor, had their real name published without their permission.   
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #601 on: October 23, 2013, 09:37:05 pm »
And that one hit of weed will impair you for at least 10 days.


Some employers are dicks.  Employers in an 'at-will' state can fire you for looking at them the wrong way.  An even-handed employer would look at the test along with the rest of the picture,  If you tested positive, but have been a model employee, productive, timely, etc., you are very likely not going to get fired.


But, employers should have tools available to them to catch the ones who are coming impaired and posing a risk to others.  Do you disagree with that notion?  If so, why?

There you go, assuming facts not in evidence.


Are you seriously arguing that employees never go to work impaired ever?  Really?
I'm seriously arguing that a piss test is not evidence of impairment.

An argument that you have yet to address.

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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #602 on: October 23, 2013, 09:38:34 pm »
"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids,

Yeah?  Do tell.
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #603 on: October 23, 2013, 09:38:36 pm »
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #604 on: October 23, 2013, 09:47:22 pm »
And that one hit of weed will impair you for at least 10 days.


Some employers are dicks.  Employers in an 'at-will' state can fire you for looking at them the wrong way.  An even-handed employer would look at the test along with the rest of the picture,  If you tested positive, but have been a model employee, productive, timely, etc., you are very likely not going to get fired.


But, employers should have tools available to them to catch the ones who are coming impaired and posing a risk to others.  Do you disagree with that notion?  If so, why?

There you go, assuming facts not in evidence.


Are you seriously arguing that employees never go to work impaired ever?  Really?
I'm seriously arguing that a piss test is not evidence of impairment.

An argument that you have yet to address.

Did you think he would?
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #605 on: October 23, 2013, 09:47:53 pm »
And that one hit of weed will impair you for at least 10 days.


Some employers are dicks.  Employers in an 'at-will' state can fire you for looking at them the wrong way.  An even-handed employer would look at the test along with the rest of the picture,  If you tested positive, but have been a model employee, productive, timely, etc., you are very likely not going to get fired.


But, employers should have tools available to them to catch the ones who are coming impaired and posing a risk to others.  Do you disagree with that notion?  If so, why?

There you go, assuming facts not in evidence.


Are you seriously arguing that employees never go to work impaired ever?  Really?
I'm seriously arguing that a piss test is not evidence of impairment.

An argument that you have yet to address.

I have addressed it, you don't like the answer.

Employers are risk averse. 

ECH claims there is a reliable test for impairment, if so, then hopefully employers will use them when it is legal.  Until all employers get there, they have to use the tools available and make their best judgement.  Would you want to be responsible for someone who tested positive and caused a workplace accident that claimed another life?

Or are you going to keep skirting that issue and pretending it doesn't exist?
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #606 on: October 23, 2013, 09:48:50 pm »
ECH claims there is a reliable test for impairment, if so, then hopefully employers will use them when it is legal.  Until all employers get there, they have to use the tools available and make their best judgement.  Would you want to be responsible for someone who tested positive and caused a workplace accident that claimed another life?

Or are you going to keep skirting that issue and pretending it doesn't exist?

Same thing goes for booze.  Right now, if there's any biological indication that you use alcohol, you should be fired on the spot.
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #607 on: October 23, 2013, 09:49:11 pm »
Yeah, one of the Discordians they don't give a shit about.

So if this forum is so obscure and insignificant, why are you so worked up about people referring to you by your real name?


Because of creeps like Agrippa and Mr. Bear.


I have kids may I remind you. 


I'm not in the throw children in jail business.

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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #608 on: October 23, 2013, 09:49:50 pm »
"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids,

Yeah?  Do tell.

And you are aiding and abetting them by publishing PI without permission.  You feel good aboit yourself?
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #609 on: October 23, 2013, 09:50:02 pm »
Yeah, one of the Discordians they don't give a shit about.

So if this forum is so obscure and insignificant, why are you so worked up about people referring to you by your real name?


Because of creeps like Agrippa and Mr. Bear.


I have kids may I remind you. 


I'm not in the throw children in jail business.

Oh, RWHN believes in "diversion", which is where you wreck someone's life forever without actually sending them to prison.

Unless they're poor, of course.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #610 on: October 23, 2013, 09:50:45 pm »
"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids,

Yeah?  Do tell.

And you are aiding and abetting them by publishing PI without permission.  You feel good aboit yourself?

Obscene remarks about your kids, scooter?  I believe I missed that.  Perhaps you can link me to it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #611 on: October 23, 2013, 09:51:51 pm »
Beuller?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

 "Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #612 on: October 23, 2013, 09:57:51 pm »
And that one hit of weed will impair you for at least 10 days.


Some employers are dicks.  Employers in an 'at-will' state can fire you for looking at them the wrong way.  An even-handed employer would look at the test along with the rest of the picture,  If you tested positive, but have been a model employee, productive, timely, etc., you are very likely not going to get fired.


But, employers should have tools available to them to catch the ones who are coming impaired and posing a risk to others.  Do you disagree with that notion?  If so, why?

There you go, assuming facts not in evidence.


Are you seriously arguing that employees never go to work impaired ever?  Really?
I'm seriously arguing that a piss test is not evidence of impairment.

An argument that you have yet to address.

The piss test detects MARIJUANA COOTIES.

We can't have people spreading COOTIES ALL OVER THE WORKPLACE, now, can we?
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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #613 on: October 23, 2013, 09:57:58 pm »
"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids,

Yeah?  Do tell.

And you are aiding and abetting them by publishing PI without permission.  You feel good aboit yourself?

Obscene remarks about your kids, scooter?  I believe I missed that.  Perhaps you can link me to it.


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Re: It's that time of year again...
« Reply #614 on: October 23, 2013, 09:58:22 pm »
"anyone else on this board" hasn't had creeps make obscene remarks about their kids,

Yeah?  Do tell.

And you are aiding and abetting them by publishing PI without permission.  You feel good aboit yourself?

Obscene remarks about your kids, scooter?  I believe I missed that.  Perhaps you can link me to it.

Have you forgotten about Agrippa who wanted to go out with my (then) 5 year old girl?

You think that's funny?
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