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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #750 on: September 13, 2016, 12:57:14 am »
Huh. Two things stood out:

1. They say there's only 7% undecided. I'm thinking that's statistically neutral.

2. Most of them had the response of "Trump is atrocious, and would be a terrible world leader, but Clinton... I dunno. Don't like her, for reasons."

I don't feel as wtf about this anymore.

what kills me is libertarian voters.  They're mostly embarrassed Trump voters.  If you see a pro-Clinton thread, they're all over it, hollering the usual pack of lies.  But they don't bother with Trump threads.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #751 on: September 13, 2016, 06:41:41 am »


2. Most of them had the response of "Trump is atrocious, and would be a terrible world leader, but Clinton... I dunno. Don't like her, for reasons."




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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #752 on: September 13, 2016, 08:32:41 am »
This pneumonia thing has reignited the Bernie crowd, in the very unlikely event that Clinton pulls out in the next few weeks, what kind of chance do you think Bernie would have of 1) Getting the Transferred nomination and 2) Getting voted in instead of Trump?
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #753 on: September 13, 2016, 08:54:14 am »
I'd say (1) extremely unlikely, the Democratic administration is not likely to get behind Sanders (2)  Pretty good, the Clinton supporters would get behind him and a lot of people on the left who don't generally vote would as well. 

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #754 on: September 13, 2016, 11:00:56 am »
This pneumonia thing has reignited the Bernie crowd, in the very unlikely event that Clinton pulls out in the next few weeks, what kind of chance do you think Bernie would have of 1) Getting the Transferred nomination and 2) Getting voted in instead of Trump?

I would've thought her VP pick would take precedence in any such situation.  It's what the VP pick is for, after all.

Though Sanders polls better than Clinton against Trump, I suspect the reason Trump's attacks were so focused on Clinton is that Sanders is the weaker candidate when it came to smears, and that they intended to make hay with the socialism/Communism stuff if he did win the nomination.  It'd be the whole Tea Party circa 2010 playbook all over again.  Hashtag "creeping communism".

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« Reply #755 on: September 13, 2016, 11:02:39 am »
BTW, just thought I should mention Tila Tequila, she of minor fame before she had brain damage and started to worship Hitler and worry about the Illuminati, is going to be a keynote speaker at an alt-right conference.

Yes, you've read right: the alt-right is politically compatible with the kind of paranoid, racist nonsense one spews due to literal brain damage.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #756 on: September 13, 2016, 01:12:22 pm »
That's amazing.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #757 on: September 13, 2016, 02:31:39 pm »
The thing that amazes me is that it seems that the media has only just realised the ages of the candidates. This was relevant a year ago and now people question putting an elderly person in a high profile/stress role? Seriously?

The scary thing is trump could do well out of this.

Neither can point at their VP for replacement candidates in a worst case as they're non entities and both campaigns have been built on person not platform.

Best case situation for the USA as I can see it is they both drop dead shortly and you decide to start again properly without the jokes.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #758 on: September 13, 2016, 02:34:14 pm »
That's amazing.

Tequila/Clooney vs kayne/el chapo 2020.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #759 on: September 13, 2016, 02:38:06 pm »
Yeah, I'm with you there.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #760 on: September 13, 2016, 02:53:35 pm »
Good job Hillary's campaign is focussing on the important issues

I mean, fair enough pointing out the links between Trump and white supremacy but that article doesn't really hit any salient points. It ends too soon before actually drawing conclusions.

Also I don't like the way the large, bolded headlines feel like they're presupposing what the reader should be thinking.

It is interesting to see how the Trump campaign has successfully embraced memes from various online forums (You can't stump the Trump etc.) How are they able to do this so successfully? Is it because the memes are 'custom-made' (by those nefarious Russian trolls) or are they taken and reimagined as the above link claims.. or are they just better at interacting and harnessing the chaotic output of the internet?

When people finally get sick of the term 'alt-right' I will be glad.
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« Reply #761 on: September 13, 2016, 03:56:40 pm »
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When people finally get sick of the term 'alt-right' I will be glad.

The next 4+ years are going to be shitty for you then. Whichever way this goes, I'm putting money on far right style shit continuing to rise. Both in the US and elsewhere.

In the US example, Clinton wins, 49% unhappy, that increases over her term and 2020's a shitshow. Or Trump wins and you've basically given a huge group of people license to be fucking horrible (see hate crimes in EU vote aftermath in UK writ much, much larger, with guns) and these people will get pandered to. Cue a horrible shitshow again in 2020 where someone has to be more extreme than this to get the win.

It's horribly fucked.
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« Reply #762 on: September 13, 2016, 04:56:43 pm »
Sounds like the next 4+ years are gonna be shitty for almost everyone one way or another.


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« Reply #763 on: September 13, 2016, 04:58:16 pm »
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #764 on: September 13, 2016, 05:09:02 pm »
Please go easy on the crowbars  :sad:
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