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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1260 on: March 21, 2019, 11:45:39 pm »
12th of April is the new cliff edge, I'd imagine that will get kicked out a couple of times, but wont go past may 23rd and the EU elections.

People in downing street frantically googling "What is a supply chain", followed by "gravity of trade" followed by "what to stockpile in a zombie apocalypse"

If only.  They were too busy making a video to own Parliament and spam on Facebook of her speech last night.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1261 on: March 22, 2019, 01:01:10 am »
12th of April is the new cliff edge, I'd imagine that will get kicked out a couple of times, but wont go past may 23rd and the EU elections.

People in downing street frantically googling "What is a supply chain", followed by "gravity of trade" followed by "what to stockpile in a zombie apocalypse"

If only.  They were too busy making a video to own Parliament and spam on Facebook of her speech last night.

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That was the most unsettling speech I've seen in years. Whole bunch of complex emotions watching it. Revolting, incitement of violence against MPs, odes to fascism without the charisma or good dress sense of fascism. Alternating between outraged with her, and wanting to go up and hug her.

I loved the whole "we can vote on my plan until people do it" and in the same breath "no second referendum".  :lulz:

I wonder what Putin has on the silly old bag?
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1262 on: March 22, 2019, 01:08:49 am »
At this point it’s either stratospheric to the point of sounding like fevered conspiracy nut psychosis or she’s so stupid he needn’t have anything on her at all.

Children and dogs are going to be chasing her through the streets, barefoot and clutching shivs of broken glass. She is going to be a pariah, and she just keeps digging. There isn’t any rational reason to do this unless the alternative is worse, or she’s too dumb to be permitted to breathe without a handler.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1263 on: March 22, 2019, 05:42:13 pm »
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1264 on: March 22, 2019, 06:45:46 pm »
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1265 on: March 22, 2019, 07:36:31 pm »
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.

Good to know I wasn’t mistaken. I wasn’t alive for that time period but the impression I got from The Stories was that May is Thatcher’s self destructive, idiotic sister.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1266 on: March 24, 2019, 12:13:23 pm »
So, this coup... Can May literally just say "no", because they cant no confidence her? Or just say, fine, I will stand down after the exit date?
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1267 on: March 24, 2019, 12:22:04 pm »
Yup, she can.

And from the sounds of it, that is exactly what she will do.  Her chief whip, and all the other whips, told her yesterday they had no confidence in her leadership any more...and, perhaps more crucially, that the vote for her deal will not pass unless she stands down.

She basically said "thank you for your thoughts" and carried on as though nothing had happened.  So I see no reason to think she will react differently to, say, the Cabinet threatening to resign.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1268 on: March 24, 2019, 03:56:48 pm »
The ERG were so menacing with their threats of no confidence. They really should have waited if they wanted any kind of effective way of removing her.
I don't see a change of guard having any real effect other then whoever come in, being presented with the same choices.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1269 on: March 24, 2019, 04:09:56 pm »
With the ERG you have to remember they have to balance May against the idea that someone like Corbyn might seize power and pursue an even closer relationship to Europe than May.  I'm half-convinced they did it at this point to prevent anyone else doing it and succeeding.

This is the closest the UK has been to a dictatorship since universal suffrage.  She has no political or public support, yet she just keeps on going.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1270 on: March 24, 2019, 05:53:08 pm »
With the ERG you have to remember they have to balance May against the idea that someone like Corbyn might seize power and pursue an even closer relationship to Europe than May.  I'm half-convinced they did it at this point to prevent anyone else doing it and succeeding.

This is the closest the UK has been to a dictatorship since universal suffrage.  She has no political or public support, yet she just keeps on going.
She won the vote, the people have spoken. And have no right to change their mind. Christ she has become the physical manifestation of Brexit itself
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1271 on: March 24, 2019, 11:43:56 pm »
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.

Good to know I wasn’t mistaken. I wasn’t alive for that time period but the impression I got from The Stories was that May is Thatcher’s self destructive, idiotic sister.

She's essentially Thatcher, minus the cock and balls.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1272 on: March 25, 2019, 12:29:48 am »
I had the impression Thatcher was far more politically skilled.  She had the support of her party and the public.   May has neither.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1273 on: March 25, 2019, 03:06:20 am »

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1274 on: March 25, 2019, 02:25:22 pm »

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