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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1680 on: October 02, 2019, 05:25:27 pm »
Also, here's the nothing-burger, "you can trust us with unspecified conditions" deal that Boris offered.

https://www.apnews.com/04a5ab581a1747528024e94285b29c95
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1681 on: October 02, 2019, 05:26:53 pm »
Heh.  Seems to me this "deal" more or less moves all of Ireland out of the UK, economically, and into the EU.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1682 on: October 02, 2019, 05:54:05 pm »
Pretty much. It's going to be rejected in less than a day.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1683 on: October 02, 2019, 11:34:59 pm »
Heh.  Seems to me this "deal" more or less moves all of Ireland out of the UK, economically, and into the EU.
It moves customs in NI out if the UK, but it also creates a physical border and symbol of division in Ireland so it's not a runner.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1684 on: October 03, 2019, 08:04:50 am »
The part about the NI assembly renewing the proposal every 4 years is limbo for Ireland. The DUP still have a majority in Stormont and I can't see them voting to be more closely aligned with Ireland than Britain, regardless of what actually benefit their voters. Maybe if they add in a border poll after 3 years, give the republic time for our usual pre-referendum citizen's assembly and time to actually hold a referendum if NI votes to rejoin.



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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1685 on: October 03, 2019, 01:28:28 pm »
It would completely gut foreign direct investment into Northern Ireland too, in addition to Ireland as a whole. As much as Brexit at least. Imagine every 4 years, not knowing what the regulatory environment is going to be.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1686 on: October 03, 2019, 02:47:33 pm »
Imagine every 4 years, not knowing what the regulatory environment is going to be.

So, America.   :lulz:
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1687 on: October 04, 2019, 12:33:54 pm »


"Coincidentally", "Britain first" was what Jo Cox's assassin shouted as he killed her.

But I'm sure that Jake Berry was in no way trying to imply that the leader of the opposition should be assassinated.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1688 on: October 04, 2019, 01:57:34 pm »


"Coincidentally", "Britain first" was what Jo Cox's assassin shouted as he killed her.

But I'm sure that Jake Berry was in no way trying to imply that the leader of the opposition should be assassinated.

Nationalists are always a hoot.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1689 on: October 04, 2019, 02:09:00 pm »
I'm almost too exhausted for outrage at this point. I'm just waiting for the first MPs to be killed due to this insanely dangerous rhetoric.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1690 on: October 04, 2019, 03:26:24 pm »
Boris has said in court he will be seeking the extension.
If that happens and there is an election, the Brexit party pick up seats from the Tories, this can only lead to the following outcomes:
Divide the Tory seats and just deepen the Parliament split.
Divide the leave vote, and flip seats to labor or lib dems.

I'm hoping for the latter, but I am not sure.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1691 on: October 04, 2019, 04:15:22 pm »
Well, he made the lawyers say it, which weirdly adds some credibility to it, or at least doesn't detract from the credibility of known serial liar Boris Johnson saying it.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1692 on: October 09, 2019, 02:32:23 pm »
There isn't any real news on this, just that I am still banging my head of the desk.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1693 on: October 09, 2019, 03:40:18 pm »
Well, no, we did have a day where Downing Street, all the press and Leave.eu decided to simultaneously blame Germany for negotiations breaking down.

Because that didn't look coordinated as fuck or anything.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1694 on: October 11, 2019, 03:51:04 pm »
I am hopefully not speaking too soon but it looks like Boris is ready to throw the DUP under the bus and go for an NI only backstop.
It wont get through parliament but it did not take him long to get back to May's deal. There is the possibility this time that the EU could say "This deal or no extension" which instead would force the decision of no deal on the opposition.
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