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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1455 on: August 08, 2016, 04:27:09 pm »
Well, MMOs are a slightly different beast in my opinion.

Skyrim does have a similar question, No Stone Unturned.  It's made somewhat cheaper by the ability to fast travel from the map, but otherwise it's somewhat similar.  Throw in some other mods, like say Frostfall (to make travel harder) and Requiem (to make everything else harder) and it's actually something of an achievement. 

If you want a full list of differences between at least the last three games, look here, it should give you a rough idea.  IMO Skyrim was way too rushed to be considered a complete game anyway (civil war...unfinished, at least two faction questlines plots so flimsy as to not even be worth it, so many bugs...) but they did show they were following up on at least some of the problems highlighted in Oblivion (levelled loot and enemy lists).

Well, Morrowind was on sale over the weekend so I installed it with a full graphic overhaul suite.

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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1456 on: August 08, 2016, 04:29:39 pm »
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1457 on: August 08, 2016, 04:36:55 pm »
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Turns out it's a moot point now. I was a bit misinformed about the timing of a move out to California with a friend. I had thought I'd have a month or two, but I guess he was shooting for about a week from now if poss, two max, and won't have time or facilities for gaming for months probably. Gonna be living rough at first in the redwood forest of NW Cali, the so called Emerald Triangle. I'm about as excited as I can get these days. It's my first time living outside of Wisconsin and I'm looking forward to some serious changes and new opportunities.

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« Reply #1458 on: August 09, 2016, 03:22:40 am »
Enjoy California, Wizard Joseph.

EoC, did you install MGSO?  As I'm using OpenMW, I've not installed any as I want a complete vanilla playthrough before I start modding, but because the engine is better optimised, some of the textures and meshes display better.  Also MGSO doesn't work with OpenMW, so I'd need to do some research into textures that are compatible and that I like.

TBH I'm more interested in installing Tamriel Rebuilt once I'm done, and Skyrim: Home of the Nords once it's updated.  But I have to complete Tribunal and Bloodmoon first...

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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1459 on: August 09, 2016, 04:12:51 am »
Ugh I think I need drills in my face

You didn't solve a puzzle box or anything, did you?
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1460 on: August 09, 2016, 03:06:19 pm »
Enjoy California, Wizard Joseph.

EoC, did you install MGSO?  As I'm using OpenMW, I've not installed any as I want a complete vanilla playthrough before I start modding, but because the engine is better optimised, some of the textures and meshes display better.  Also MGSO doesn't work with OpenMW, so I'd need to do some research into textures that are compatible and that I like.

TBH I'm more interested in installing Tamriel Rebuilt once I'm done, and Skyrim: Home of the Nords once it's updated.  But I have to complete Tribunal and Bloodmoon first...

Yeah, I played about 10 minutes vanilla and decided I couldn't get past the graphics. I went with MGSO because I've never modded and it seemed like a pretty foolproof method. I just don't want to end up tinkering. I went with a pretty middle of the road setup, but everything is markedly better than before. It's now what I remember Morrowind being like. Memory is funny.

Things I miss:
constant sense of danger
overwhelming scale
general Morrowind weirdness

Things I didn't miss:
glitching into trees
follower one shot killing me with an AoE spell while I meleed a rat
god damn motherfucking cliff racers
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« Reply #1461 on: August 09, 2016, 03:14:58 pm »
Enjoy California, Wizard Joseph.

EoC, did you install MGSO?  As I'm using OpenMW, I've not installed any as I want a complete vanilla playthrough before I start modding, but because the engine is better optimised, some of the textures and meshes display better.  Also MGSO doesn't work with OpenMW, so I'd need to do some research into textures that are compatible and that I like.

TBH I'm more interested in installing Tamriel Rebuilt once I'm done, and Skyrim: Home of the Nords once it's updated.  But I have to complete Tribunal and Bloodmoon first...

Yeah, I played about 10 minutes vanilla and decided I couldn't get past the graphics. I went with MGSO because I've never modded and it seemed like a pretty foolproof method. I just don't want to end up tinkering. I went with a pretty middle of the road setup, but everything is markedly better than before. It's now what I remember Morrowind being like. Memory is funny.

Things I miss:
constant sense of danger
overwhelming scale
general Morrowind weirdness

Things I didn't miss:
glitching into trees
follower one shot killing me with an AoE spell while I meleed a rat
god damn motherfucking cliff racers

 :argh!: :argh!: I almost forgot about those assholes. Minding my own business, skies are clear, all of a sudden, three out of nowhere attacking the shit out of me.

Cliff racers aside, it's been forever since I've played Morrowwind - someday I'll have to get back to it...
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1462 on: August 09, 2016, 03:37:36 pm »
Ugh I think I need drills in my face

You didn't solve a puzzle box or anything, did you?

If I do will this go faster?

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« Reply #1463 on: August 09, 2016, 06:34:43 pm »
Never been to a professional convention before. 1st observation: it shares many similarities with a big, Southern Baptist church. The feel of the place, the clapping after someone is done talking, the type of rooms are around and the level of chatter. The biggest difference is, these people aren't wearing suits, mostly jeans, t-shirt, and a backpack. It's weird.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1464 on: August 09, 2016, 07:44:11 pm »
Never been to a professional convention before. 1st observation: it shares many similarities with a big, Southern Baptist church. The feel of the place, the clapping after someone is done talking, the type of rooms are around and the level of chatter. The biggest difference is, these people aren't wearing suits, mostly jeans, t-shirt, and a backpack. It's weird.

No singing, I hope. No laying on hands or shouting in tongues, either.
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« Reply #1465 on: August 09, 2016, 07:56:09 pm »
Never been to a professional convention before. 1st observation: it shares many similarities with a big, Southern Baptist church. The feel of the place, the clapping after someone is done talking, the type of rooms are around and the level of chatter. The biggest difference is, these people aren't wearing suits, mostly jeans, t-shirt, and a backpack. It's weird.

No singing, I hope. No laying on hands or shouting in tongues, either.

Not yet. I could add the in. Perhaps this classic https://youtu.be/UhXcLJFpQ6A
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« Reply #1466 on: August 09, 2016, 08:00:41 pm »
Well, this thing is a bust. These brogrammers aren't coming near me. Say LA vee.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1467 on: August 09, 2016, 08:53:09 pm »
Never been to a professional convention before. 1st observation: it shares many similarities with a big, Southern Baptist church. The feel of the place, the clapping after someone is done talking, the type of rooms are around and the level of chatter. The biggest difference is, these people aren't wearing suits, mostly jeans, t-shirt, and a backpack. It's weird.

No singing, I hope. No laying on hands or shouting in tongues, either.

Not yet. I could add the in. Perhaps this classic https://youtu.be/UhXcLJFpQ6A

I still prefer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxhxKdnjGA8
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1468 on: August 09, 2016, 09:12:11 pm »
Enjoy California, Wizard Joseph.

EoC, did you install MGSO?  As I'm using OpenMW, I've not installed any as I want a complete vanilla playthrough before I start modding, but because the engine is better optimised, some of the textures and meshes display better.  Also MGSO doesn't work with OpenMW, so I'd need to do some research into textures that are compatible and that I like.

TBH I'm more interested in installing Tamriel Rebuilt once I'm done, and Skyrim: Home of the Nords once it's updated.  But I have to complete Tribunal and Bloodmoon first...

Yeah, I played about 10 minutes vanilla and decided I couldn't get past the graphics. I went with MGSO because I've never modded and it seemed like a pretty foolproof method. I just don't want to end up tinkering. I went with a pretty middle of the road setup, but everything is markedly better than before. It's now what I remember Morrowind being like. Memory is funny.

Things I miss:
constant sense of danger
overwhelming scale
general Morrowind weirdness

Things I didn't miss:
glitching into trees
follower one shot killing me with an AoE spell while I meleed a rat
god damn motherfucking cliff racers

Seyda Neen is a pretty bad place to start, graphically.  It's a swamp, so it should look kinda shitty, but it certainly doesn't help.

I found once I was wandering the Ascadian Isles and West Gash though, things looked pretty good.

Incidentally, there's a mod that gives cliffracers a percentage chance to respawn into two cliffracers on death.

Also, now I'm level 48 and have a bunch of custom-made constant effect items which render me more or less invulnerable and able to go anywhere (ring of levitation, ring of invisibility, ring of waterbreathing, ring of swift swim, ring of +2 restore health, ring of summon a bunch of daedra on someone's face, rings with stacking chameleon effects for super cheese, jogging pants to restore stamina). Also a bunch of potions which do things like restore 112 health for 2094 seconds, and reflect magic 50% for 1050 seconds and so on.  So the feeling of danger is mostly low.

But I've yet to face the boss of all bosses that is Gaenor.  Or that lich in Mournhold.  Or werewolves.

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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #1469 on: August 10, 2016, 12:26:31 am »
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