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I know of none in my locality.

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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2017, 11:44:51 pm »
Abortion is illegal, though no one is prosecuted under it.
There is a law against blaspheme.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 01:23:25 am »
It is illegal to disrupt the worship of God in my state. It is also illegal to beat someone even if they enthusiastically consent. Also marital infidelity is punishable with up to three years in prison, regardless of how okay with it your spouse might be with it.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 04:58:54 am »
I live in AZ, so, all of them?
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 06:17:27 am »
The government of my country (which is newspeak, meaning the bunch of robbers who have quartered he government business here) has first signed a contract with Putin to borrow a huge amount of money for 30 years, which they will then give back to the Russians in return for their building a new nuclear power station of questionable design... then they passed a law that made all the documentation of the deal state secrets for 30 years. They are also subsiding Hollywood with the tax money they collect primarily from the huddled masses, under a so-called "reverse VAT support" scheme,which means productions brought here not only don't pay VAT, they can the amount of VAT they would normally have to pay as a grant from the Hungarian government... And over the past 7 years, they replaced numerous social security payments with "tax discounts" - which means the poorest, with little taxable income, get nothing.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 10:56:04 am »
I've think we have laws in scotland. Nobody really bothers much with them, tho.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 12:12:10 pm »
The laws of my country mean if a kid starts acting like a moody teenager, and he's Muslim, I am required to report this as suspected radicalisation and spy on him for the Home Department.

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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 02:13:58 pm »
I know of none in my locality.

Is that because you aren't looking, or because you live in Antarctica or Norway or some shit?
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 03:53:46 pm »
Ummm... All I can think of at the moment is that, in some counties, alcohol can't be sold on Sunday, or the hours at which they can be sold are different on Sunday.

And then there was the time the DOJ had to step in and tell the local court that, no, they could not, in fact, stop local citizens from completing the mosque they had almost finished.

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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2017, 04:03:21 pm »
I suppose a clarification would be in order. Certainly the use of the word "unjust" or "socially unjust" can and should go down the rabbit hole. First a person has to explain what it is they mean when they speak of justice and argue for that, after which they can argue how and and in which manner this applies to groups.

Define our terms.

When I think of social justice, I think of it in the general sense. That all people should be allowed equal treatment under the law, whether these be considered "just laws" or "unjust laws". If all people are treated the same the the laws of the land, then in my view "social justice" has taken place.

I don't think of social justice in terms of equal outcomes, because we are not equal in our capabilities, nor in our starting points.

So when I ask for examples of social injustice, I'm asking for examples where people are not treated equally under the law.

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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 04:28:48 pm »
Like when cops target black guys and the mentally ill homeless almost exclusively? Or how black people are 4 times more likely to face charges for possession of pot than a white dude? That kind of thing?

because there's no laws on the books in that regard, yet it is still a part of the legal system. That sort of thing?
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 06:12:53 pm »
Being homeless is a crime.

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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2017, 12:11:34 am »
Being homeless is a crime.

Being poor is a crime.  Being homeless is a capital offense.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2017, 12:46:44 am »

When I think of social justice, I think of it in the general sense. That all people should be allowed equal treatment under the law, whether these be considered "just laws" or "unjust laws". If all people are treated the same the the laws of the land, then in my view "social justice" has taken place.


Then you do not believe in social justice and are in fact a shitlord.
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Re: Post your examples of socially unjust laws which exist where you live
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2017, 12:54:29 am »

When I think of social justice, I think of it in the general sense. That all people should be allowed equal treatment under the law, whether these be considered "just laws" or "unjust laws". If all people are treated the same the the laws of the land, then in my view "social justice" has taken place.


Then you do not believe in social justice and are in fact a shitlord.

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