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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #135 on: February 25, 2017, 08:03:03 pm »
Yes, that was him.


Wait.  AKK was banned for spamming, IIRC.

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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #136 on: February 25, 2017, 08:04:23 pm »
It was one of his previous incarnations, I am pretty sure.  Before the ban for spamming.

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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #137 on: February 25, 2017, 09:39:49 pm »
I try to take steps away from being like them, but instead of taking a step away i kinda just step back and stop.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #138 on: March 02, 2017, 04:08:14 pm »
If you say it out loud, it's shorthand for "please punch me in the face".

A spell of evocation really.

Which is the weakest spell school. Tisk Tisk.

I don't quite understand the fixation on the concept of memes. I've read people talking like spreading a meme is equivalent to casting a spell. Is it just dreams of relevance?

Yeah, pretty much, by people who are either too stupid or too hung  up on occultism to realize that the spread of information is a well-studied field and that the word "meme" was coined by Richard Dawkins in 1976 as an analog of the "gene" concept of spreadable unit of information. There are a lot of books on the topic, but it's my guess that next to none of the pinheaded adolescents squeaking about memes have ever cracked one.

What is interesting is looking at it from a biological perspective. If memes are cultural genes, and are generally considered viral in form, it's rather telling that the "Erisian meme" (whatever that is) is long lived but not widespread, but the "Kekian meme" (whatever that is) is recently emerged and widespread. A rather benign virus that spreads very slowly may not be medically impressive, but it has staying power. It doesn't kill the host. It may even benefit the host. Conversely, a plague is impressive and widespread, but burns itself out. It kills its hosts, and after a certain point potential hosts are too spread out for the plague to continue. This is even without the fact that the survivors may be naturally immune, and now immunity is the dominant phenotype in the population due to natural selection.

At least, that's what I thought about before I got bored reading the rest of his post.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #139 on: March 02, 2017, 04:25:55 pm »
If you say it out loud, it's shorthand for "please punch me in the face".

A spell of evocation really.

Which is the weakest spell school. Tisk Tisk.

I don't quite understand the fixation on the concept of memes. I've read people talking like spreading a meme is equivalent to casting a spell. Is it just dreams of relevance?

Yeah, pretty much, by people who are either too stupid or too hung  up on occultism to realize that the spread of information is a well-studied field and that the word "meme" was coined by Richard Dawkins in 1976 as an analog of the "gene" concept of spreadable unit of information. There are a lot of books on the topic, but it's my guess that next to none of the pinheaded adolescents squeaking about memes have ever cracked one.

What is interesting is looking at it from a biological perspective. If memes are cultural genes, and are generally considered viral in form, it's rather telling that the "Erisian meme" (whatever that is) is long lived but not widespread, but the "Kekian meme" (whatever that is) is recently emerged and widespread. A rather benign virus that spreads very slowly may not be medically impressive, but it has staying power. It doesn't kill the host. It may even benefit the host. Conversely, a plague is impressive and widespread, but burns itself out. It kills its hosts, and after a certain point potential hosts are too spread out for the plague to continue. This is even without the fact that the survivors may be naturally immune, and now immunity is the dominant phenotype in the population due to natural selection.

At least, that's what I thought about before I got bored reading the rest of his post.

I suppose that if we follow this analogy, a rapid-moving virus that burns out quickly, like Ebola, would be a fad or a cult, while a slow-spreading, long-lasting virus like herpes would be a renaissance or a shift in social mores, like same-sex marriage or universal health care.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #140 on: March 02, 2017, 04:38:27 pm »
If you say it out loud, it's shorthand for "please punch me in the face".

A spell of evocation really.

Which is the weakest spell school. Tisk Tisk.

I don't quite understand the fixation on the concept of memes. I've read people talking like spreading a meme is equivalent to casting a spell. Is it just dreams of relevance?

Yeah, pretty much, by people who are either too stupid or too hung  up on occultism to realize that the spread of information is a well-studied field and that the word "meme" was coined by Richard Dawkins in 1976 as an analog of the "gene" concept of spreadable unit of information. There are a lot of books on the topic, but it's my guess that next to none of the pinheaded adolescents squeaking about memes have ever cracked one.

What is interesting is looking at it from a biological perspective. If memes are cultural genes, and are generally considered viral in form, it's rather telling that the "Erisian meme" (whatever that is) is long lived but not widespread, but the "Kekian meme" (whatever that is) is recently emerged and widespread. A rather benign virus that spreads very slowly may not be medically impressive, but it has staying power. It doesn't kill the host. It may even benefit the host. Conversely, a plague is impressive and widespread, but burns itself out. It kills its hosts, and after a certain point potential hosts are too spread out for the plague to continue. This is even without the fact that the survivors may be naturally immune, and now immunity is the dominant phenotype in the population due to natural selection.

At least, that's what I thought about before I got bored reading the rest of his post.

I suppose that if we follow this analogy, a rapid-moving virus that burns out quickly, like Ebola, would be a fad or a cult, while a slow-spreading, long-lasting virus like herpes would be a renaissance or a shift in social mores, like same-sex marriage or universal health care.

Sounds about right. Eventually it becomes an ERV and can contribute to the host's evolution.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #141 on: March 02, 2017, 04:47:58 pm »
Holy crap, we got some decent content out of this thread.

I blame the Erisian Meme.

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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #142 on: March 02, 2017, 05:05:16 pm »
It's also promising. If Kekianism is inherently virulent, it will eventually burn itself out. The bad stuff is that it has to be destructive in order to do it, if left to its own devices. If it is to persist, it has to become benign. But then again, that's contrary to its nature.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #143 on: March 02, 2017, 05:09:37 pm »
As none of these truly die out, people just stop responding to them (old memes on the likes of 4chan like shoop da woop still get posted but no one cares)
Would you call that the meme becoming benign, or would you say that the social groups become immunised to them?
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #144 on: March 02, 2017, 05:13:21 pm »
Hmmm. Interesting question. Probably immune. Benign would probably if it still had some ability to spread, and becomes fixed in the culture.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #145 on: March 02, 2017, 05:18:32 pm »
I would agree with immune. You are exposed to the thing, but it does not invade your thoughts, you don't repost, you don't react. Benign would be if you see a meme and have a reaction and/or urge to share it, but it isn't negatively affecting you.

Oh! Caturday's a good example. Extremely virulent, benign meme that survived for a good long while, but eventually most people built up a level of immunity anyway.

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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #146 on: March 02, 2017, 06:33:50 pm »
It's also promising. If Kekianism is inherently virulent, it will eventually burn itself out. The bad stuff is that it has to be destructive in order to do it, if left to its own devices. If it is to persist, it has to become benign. But then again, that's contrary to its nature.

My suspicion is that in ten years it will be more or less forgotten. 
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #147 on: March 02, 2017, 06:36:38 pm »
Hmmm. Interesting question. Probably immune. Benign would probably if it still had some ability to spread, and becomes fixed in the culture.

Yes, I think this is accurate. In a sense, perhaps it could be said to have lost virulence as a consequence of host immunity, like an old virus that is still around but can no longer propagate by infecting new hosts; rather, it continues to occasionally cause outbreaks among earlier hosts who have become latent carriers.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #148 on: March 02, 2017, 06:43:02 pm »
I would agree with immune. You are exposed to the thing, but it does not invade your thoughts, you don't repost, you don't react. Benign would be if you see a meme and have a reaction and/or urge to share it, but it isn't negatively affecting you.

Oh! Caturday's a good example. Extremely virulent, benign meme that survived for a good long while, but eventually most people built up a level of immunity anyway.

Caturday is still thriving in cat groups, which are a whole huge, thriving subculture unto themselves.
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Re: What is Kek?
« Reply #149 on: March 02, 2017, 06:46:54 pm »
Hmmm. Interesting question. Probably immune. Benign would probably if it still had some ability to spread, and becomes fixed in the culture.

Yes, I think this is accurate. In a sense, perhaps it could be said to have lost virulence as a consequence of host immunity, like an old virus that is still around but can no longer propagate by infecting new hosts; rather, it continues to occasionally cause outbreaks among earlier hosts who have become latent carriers.

This reminds me of the badgers meme. People who were on the internet around the year 2000 remember it occasionally and it still functions as a nostalgic joke, but no one else gets it.
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