A challenge for all Bush-Haters

[The Open Bar]

Reagan's not in office???? When did this happen?? Why hasn't Mangrove got new magazines in the bar?? TIME MAGAZINE - JULY 1985???  

[President Bush]

Q: How many Bush Administration officials does it take to screw in a light bulb?


A: None. There is nothing wrong with the light bulb; its conditions are improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandescence are a delusional spin from the liberal media. That light bulb has served honorably, and anything you say undermines the lighting effect. Why do you hate freedom?

[Bob the Mediocre]

the litany of Bush-bashing incoherent nonsense that followed my challenge

Yet more proof of my point that you need to think about what you read.

[Bob the Mediocre]

Why waste my time debating the issues with people who obviously don't have much respect for dissenting opinions and who, for the most part, simply use hateful trash to debate instead of valid points.

That's why I've decided not to debate you anymore. I mean, when you said gnimbley would've supported the Nazis, what little respect I had for you was gone (yes, I did have some. Naive of me, I know. Maybe I misunderstood some of VoT's posts that I thought were nice).

[Bob the Mediocre]

And the best part is the next time I check this site there will two more pages of wonderfully nice insults lobbed at me because I happen to have a different outlook on life that you arrogant assholes.

I love how you seem to think you're not doing the exact same thing.

[Voice of Truth]

"Some of the things we're particularly intolerant of are: stupidity, blind faith, willful ignorance, naivety, and political incompetence."

Yet another lovely assessment.  The stuff about coservative "blood in the streets" was equally nice.  I thought there'd only be maybe 2 pages, but I'm glad to see I was able to inspire far more out of you guys.  I feel like I'm dealing with little intolerant children.  

I actually did ask Bella to give me a brief crash course in what you guys are all about, which was interesting.  You see, I would like to just ask simple question and respect what you guys feel.  On the other hand, she did not tell me that you guys are also all about intolerance.  She acted like you question everything.  That's cool.  I can feel you guys on that.  I think my beef is that I have this picture, which you guys are instilling of me, of all you guys logging in and reading my posts and kicking back in your chairs with a big smile going, "Aaahhahah, you dumb bastard..." and then typing up a bunch of insults.  

As to the political debate, I still enjoy it a great deal, and I said I would continue it elsewhere with those who were so inclined, but on this forum there seems to be one or two decent responses and then the load of crap attacking me, thus the "waste of time" comment.  It's easier to debate with those who want to do it civilized.

I think if you want to know what my take on it is, it is that you guys could relax a little bit, and chill out, and accept that my beliefs (or those of conservatives) are ok too.  You may feel how you do about them, but shit, relax and talk.  Always with the slander.  I really didn't get that comment about me insulting you guys either.  I really have no problem with people believing whatever they want, but for real, I just don't entirely get what some of you guys' deal is.  This attitude of conservatives are full of"stupidity, blind faith, willful ignorance, naivety, and political incompetence" is just not my cup of tea.  

Anyway, this will be called "whining" and me being a "baby" when I was really just trying to talk with some people who seem to be very different than me and I'm just annoyed at what you guys had to turn it into.  Fucking "Conservative blood in the streets..."?   I'm sure even this post will likely get attacked again, and that's what I'm talking about.  Oh well...

[EraPassing]

But, really, VoT...  when a whole bunch of people are saying pretty much the same thing, doesn't that clue you in to actually listen to what they're saying?
Everyone who thinks you're unworthy of our efforts generally thinks so because:
You don't listen.  You don't pay attention.  Even when someone is bringing up good points, you don't bother to seriously address them, and you certainly don't bother trying to understand where they're coming from.
Your entire attitude seems to be "I can't believe you don't automatically agree with me!  You're so arrogant!  I'm not talking to you anymore!  Whaaah!"
You won't stop to question your own beliefs, but you expect us to do so, based on - what... your say-so, alone?

Not only that, though - some of us just really don't like you, you know.
Pfft.

[Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy]

And the best part is the next time I check this site there will two more pages of wonderfully nice insults lobbed at me because I happen to have a different outlook on life that you arrogant assholes.

I love how you seem to think you're not doing the exact same thing.

I love how he thinks we are all reading his reeeeaaallly looooonnnggg posts all the way through every time.  If someone else says something interesting about one of his posts, then I go read it.  I mean, I try, but the guy is so full of himself.  I don't I could get through it even if I agreed with him.  He is worse than me, I swear.

[EraPassing]

Hey!  Really long posts can be good!
Some of us have a lot to say!

[Cain]

I read them all.  Everyone's long posts.  Give someone enough rope and they will hang themselves in any argument, because 90% of arguments ar no based on logic.  that goes for me too.  Sorry, had a logic exam today, it puts me in a funny mood.

[Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy]

Hey!  Really long posts can be good!
Some of us have a lot to say!

A lot of the long posts here are great, but some are boring.  Yours are interesting, mine are interesting, Rog, Hugh, but VOT? not so much.

[Voice of Truth]

I don't expect, and in fact never thought any of you would, agree with or feel my point of view.  I simply meant that quite a few of you didn't even have an ounce of respect for another person's opinion.  Do you think I didn't know how different you guys felt than me on the issues.  I also did start to respond to some of the things people said, but as I started to the satirical posts started turning into outright attacks and so I said I was done.  Again, I'll keep debating the issues over at the Messiah with those who want to stay civilized.  All I am saying is that it sucks you guys have to be so anti-other points of view, or least you sure come off that way.  And again, I don't mean agreeing with me, but even listening to them and having halfway respectful response.  Everyone deserves a little respect IMO, even the three-cheeked assface.  (I still thought that was some funny ass shit...)

And my posts are ever long it's because I'm trying to respond to 50 posts.  Give me a break.

I also think there is a fine line between arrogance and strong convictions, but that's just me.  Even still, as I sit here and try to better explain what I'm saying I even feel like I'm digressing to stupid shit so anyway...

"Yours are interesting, mine are interesting, Rog, Hugh, but VOT? not so much."

What is with you people, damnit? (Banging head against wall...)

[Bob the Mediocre]

I also did start to respond to some of the things people said, but as I started to the satirical posts started turning into outright attacks and so I said I was done.

Some of the attacks may have been meant as satire. But your responces to them prompted real attacks.

[Voice of Truth]

You guys attack quite well for being so anti-war.  Maybe you should reconsider your stance?  It reminds me of the killer bees swarm mentality.  Attack, attack, attack...

[Rev. Chicken Delicious]

You guys attack quite well for being so anti-war.  Maybe you should reconsider your stance?  It reminds me of the killer bees swarm mentality.  Attack, attack, attack...

Usually when something/someone is so careless as to disturb the hive.