Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in

[The Wizard Joseph]

Which also means, once a carrier, always a carrier.

Yup. Upthread I speculated about this possibility and compared it to impetigo,but that virus takes a lifetime to reemerge. This is doing it in a couple months. Once you're symptomatic again, you're contagious again. and again. and... fuck. If I could choose what to have been wrong about between this and being airborne, I would prefer it to be airborne. Some of my more existential concerns are now FAR more likely.

[chaotic neutral observer]

If all the reported reinfections are in South Korea (which doesn't have a particularly high infection rate to begin with), I would consider a systemic problem to be more likely.  Look to the lab.  Unless reports of this start appearing in other places, I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Remember:
The test has a 100% accuracy rate.
The individuals involved didn't have any health issues or unusual genetics peculiar to the area.
The data was entered into the computers without error.
The database software is bug-free.  No two people have the same name.
The original news reporters are subject matter experts, and understood perfectly what the scientists were saying.
Every news agency is careful to do their own research before repeating a claim.

Science is slow.  Wait for the results to be reproduced.  It's not like you can do anything about this, anyway.

[Juana]

I wear a bandana around my face.  It's main purpose is to keep me from touching my face, and also to remind people to keep their distance.

Also helps capture breath droplets if you're a carrier. everyone needs to be masking up in public. I made these memes for my ex gf by request because as a nurse in rural Wisconsin she HATES seeing how nobody seems to give a shit. She requested Xena and a fire breathing dragon specifically.

Based on data out of South Korea, it really doesn't do shit.

Are you telling me that the masks are straight up ineffectual? That would be very disturbing news.

Depends on the mask. I've got some N95 masks left over from the Camp fire and they're 95% effective. Surgical masks also filter 95% of the virus. The cloth masks are much less effective but that depends on the weave, too. The tighter the weave, the better, and a layer of flannel is also helpful.

[P3nT4gR4m]

If all the reported reinfections are in South Korea (which doesn't have a particularly high infection rate to begin with), I would consider a systemic problem to be more likely.  Look to the lab.  Unless reports of this start appearing in other places, I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Remember:
The test has a 100% accuracy rate.
The individuals involved didn't have any health issues or unusual genetics peculiar to the area.
The data was entered into the computers without error.
The database software is bug-free.  No two people have the same name.
The original news reporters are subject matter experts, and understood perfectly what the scientists were saying.
Every news agency is careful to do their own research before repeating a claim.

Science is slow.  Wait for the results to be reproduced.  It's not like you can do anything about this, anyway.

All of the above

[Doktor Howl]

A friend of mine just countered the "this isn't as bad as the flu" thing.

It's not as bad as the flu because we are in fact doing something about it, whereas we just let the flu march around in big shitty stomping boots.

[The Wizard Joseph]

A friend of mine just countered the "this isn't as bad as the flu" thing.

It's not as bad as the flu because we are in fact doing something about it, whereas we just let the flu march around in big shitty stomping boots.

Can I use that? It's a good counter.

[Doktor Howl]

A friend of mine just countered the "this isn't as bad as the flu" thing.

It's not as bad as the flu because we are in fact doing something about it, whereas we just let the flu march around in big shitty stomping boots.

Can I use that? It's a good counter.

I am.

[Suu]

Which also means, once a carrier, always a carrier.

Insanely common with a lot of viruses, actually. Epstein-Barr, which causes mononucleosis, does this. Varicella zoster, or chickenpox, is a given, as shingles is the result of reactivation, as well as the rest of the herpes viruses.

[Suu]

A friend of mine just countered the "this isn't as bad as the flu" thing.

It's not as bad as the flu because we are in fact doing something about it, whereas we just let the flu march around in big shitty stomping boots.

Imagine if people were as prophylactic about the flu? Holy shit. That's 20,000-60,000 less deaths a year in the US alone.

[Doktor Howl]

And then and then and then

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52289056?at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking&at_custom4=FF6CAAE8-7E9F-11EA-A0A9-EBD0923C408C&fbclid=IwAR2M54PyAYTheTqFKGcYpQe3X0yobfkGafb4-Z71aMJARSD3EZrL1kHNS-o

[chaotic neutral observer]

And then and then and then

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52289056?at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking&at_custom4=FF6CAAE8-7E9F-11EA-A0A9-EBD0923C408C&fbclid=IwAR2M54PyAYTheTqFKGcYpQe3X0yobfkGafb4-Z71aMJARSD3EZrL1kHNS-o

Now is not the time to address our problems!  Now is the time for the pointing of fingers and the covering of asses!

[Junkenstein]

A friend of mine just countered the "this isn't as bad as the flu" thing.

It's not as bad as the flu because we are in fact doing something about it, whereas we just let the flu march around in big shitty stomping boots.

Imagine if people were as prophylactic about the flu? Holy shit. That's 20,000-60,000 less deaths a year in the US alone.

There's a "falling down" not economically viable joke here somewhere. The way the death industry is structured, you can't help but wonder what a consistent 5% +/- in the overall yearly death rate would transfer into as gdp.

Not like any funeral parlours are particularly hurting for trade right now.

[The Wizard Joseph]

 

https://www.themarysue.com/steak-umm-twitter-account-coronavirus-truth-telling/?fbclid=IwAR08StufgT4qBBXKgLLN7rEBbxQWSsmWKXWM-9satFu2euDTN2BNwSnw2aQ

[The Wizard Joseph]

Wasn't sure whether or not to put this in the Trump thread, but decided here because it relates directly to how the virus is getting around.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/15/trump-accused-actively-and-knowingly-spreading-coronavirus-central-america-through?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11n1fuWI91V56hDrIWSvRxqJJt6zvIxlEb1MjTeQ6aTzCwPB16J8zRB-E

[cigarki spiritual]

I've found this website to be really interesting - it allows comparing the curves of diferent countries. The curve for Bulgaria has been quite strange in comparison to our neighbours so I'm currently trying to get to the bottom of why that is the case. Might spend the next couple of days comparing the curves of different countries and taking into account various factors such as tuberculosis vaccine (currently the theory of why ex soviet states are getting hit less hard), press freedom and overall type of regime (to see to what extent the data just reflects strategies of obfuscation by governments) and everything else I can think of, so that I can get a better idea of what the actual situation is. Probably best done with a neural network, but I don't know where to start with one so good old Social Science bachelor's methods are the best I have.

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/