Announcement:

[Erisian Liberation Front]

You are warned to stand by for an important announcement.

Stand by,Ķ.

Transmitting.

It has come to the attention of the Erisian Liberation Front that its use of the metaphor of Pie and Cookies has been grossly misinterpreted and misused as of late.  As the ELF declares No Control over the use of symbols once released into GroupMind, the decision has been made for We to abandon this little-understood meme.

As should be generally understood ELF accepts Any and All into its ranks, and this includes what shall now be known as the Cookies and Pie Brigade (CPB).  The arbitrary classification of the CPB are those who, for reasons of their own making, appear and give cause for others to surmise that they are concerned only with frivolity, shallow hedonism, and refuse to acknowledge grave social issues that occur in the experiential world.  Previously, such concerns were paramount and exclusive to the LDD (at least, they thought so), who have of late taken umbrage at the (supposed) ELF for not participating in defibrillating the current paradigm.  

Let it be known, from this day forth, that the ELF is, and has been, hard at work subverting the common assumptions and perceptions of society at large, and using the methods comfortable to them.  Such methods, diverse and subtle, do not necessarily involve violence, direct confrontation, or even visibility.  We feel that such methods, while offering immediately visible results, do not lead to lasting change, but rather offer up a target for the Armies of the Grey.

To reiterate and make clear:  While members of the CPB may be involved with the ELF, the ELF will no longer use the symbology of Cookies and Pie to describe their methods.  There shall be, from here forward, no ,ÄúStandard,Äù symbol or flag or metaphor used, merely the most appropriate symbol available at the moment.

The ELF would like to extend Our apologies to self-proclaimed members of the LDD if they had assumed or deduced that the ELF were nothing more than a bunch of panty-waisted sissies who used the excuse of ,Äúno-action,Äù to avoid participation in Revolution.*  Such assumptions and/or deductions are decidedly False.  While the methods of the LDD and the ELF are often at polar opposites, the goal is the same.  Let us work together to achieve our aims.

In short:  The ELF EXISTS.


End Transmission.





*Those who actually do employ Wu-Wei as commonly understood are exempt from this statement.

[East Coast Hustle]

less talk, more rock.

[Legion of Dynamic Discord]

Agreed, we have the same cause, just differing tactics and thoughts on what may be effective.  Back to work, nothing to see here people.

[agent compassion]

Cookies? Hedonism?

That's not what I understand cookies and pie as....to me, cookies and pie are representative of the idea that "humanity will solve its problems on the day it stops taking itself so seriously."

Sometimes we all need to lighten the hell up because we've forgotten how.
Sometimes it's ok to be stupid. Dear goddess do we ever need permission to be stupid and annoying and silly and human. We all think we're sooooo much better, so much more EVOLVED, that we're evolved beyond the right to fuck up and horse around. Well, we are definitely NOT.

[East Coast Hustle]

that's not the point. the people in Charge(tm) aren't gonna lighten up, and we NEED to take them (and to a degree, ourselves) seriously if we want to stop them.

[agent compassion]

This is what I'm saying. There's a need for BOTH.
You know how I feel about Destructive Disorder. There's a surplus.
There's a time and a place for every strategy, and value in being unexpected. Not every battle is a life or death battle against the Machine you know.

[LMNO]

I believe what the ELF was saying was that some people around here (not you, though.  we've seen you in action) have taken the mantra of "Cookies and Pie" to mean that fluff posting, inane threadjacking(as opposed to clever threadjacking), and a refusal to use their cumulative intelligence is a means to paradigm shift.

Which, admittedly, is a pretty cool idea if taken to the logical extreme, but most of the CPB won't even go that far.

[agent compassion]

Maybe there needs to be some rules laid down then.
::thinks::

Since I'm so often involved in cookies and pie, and defending its viability as a strategy, maybe I should take this on.

[Erisian Liberation Front]

Incomming Transmission in 25...24...23...

We, of the Erisian Liberation Front, appoint Agent Compassion to head up the Comittee to Investigate the Cookie and Pie Brigade, in order to uncover any possible use of said confectionary metaphors as applies to OM.


End Transmission.

[agent compassion]

Ooh, a Committee....
::bangs a gavel::

This commitee will come to order. Harrumph harrumph. Where's the agenda for this meeting?

[East Coast Hustle]

Ooh, a Committee....
::bangs a gavel::

This commitee will come to order. Harrumph harrumph. Where's the agenda for this meeting?

SPY!!!

[agent compassion]

SPY!!!

Duh.

What was that you and Bob were saying? If you're not at least a triple agent, you're not trying hard enough?

That said, I think I'll nominate you to chair the Frosting Subcommittee.

 

[Irreverend Hugh, KSC]

that's not the point. the people in Charge(tm) aren't gonna lighten up, and we NEED to take them (and to a degree, ourselves) seriously if we want to stop them.

Perhaps. But not serious in our own ways not in THEIR ways. Which probably means that we should master the ancient tantric arts of the holy chucklefuck and other such world wide diddling specialities.

[Legion of Dynamic Discord]

Sometimes we all need to lighten the hell up because we've forgotten how.
Sometimes it's ok to be stupid. Dear goddess do we ever need permission to be stupid and annoying and silly and human. We all think we're sooooo much better, so much more EVOLVED, that we're evolved beyond the right to fuck up and horse around. Well, we are definitely NOT.

And thats wy it has it uses.  However, it must be seen as a tactical ploy, rather than a strategic position to be used effectively.  Its the enticement, the bait for want of a better word. "Look how fun life can be!"  But as a way of life...well then the criticisms become more accurate.

Just my point of view.

[Irreverend Hugh, KSC]

As a spokesperson for the Justified Ancients of Mummu, I can only say that we back both the LDD and the ELF in this endeavor. And we promise to return the brainscanning machines promptly once we are done with the Eris Diddling Celebrations.