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The TROOF about Discordians.

Started by Zurtok Khan, December 10, 2005, 08:10:09 AM

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Chlorine

#120
December 13, 2005, 03:19:04 AM
Hahah...

The Good Reverend Roger

#121
December 13, 2005, 03:21:15 AM
Quote from: ChlorineHahah...

People take senseless violence way too seriously.

I'm just in it for the laffs.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Chlorine

#122
December 13, 2005, 03:38:57 AM
People take alot of stuff too seriously.

And then they don't shut up.

The Good Reverend Roger

#123
December 13, 2005, 03:39:44 AM
Quote from: ChlorinePeople take alot of stuff too seriously.

And then they don't shut up.

Um...then don't click?

TGRR,
Thinks the solution is self-evident.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Chlorine

#124
December 13, 2005, 03:41:01 AM
That's what I've been doing.

Except now.

:o

The Good Reverend Roger

#125
December 13, 2005, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: ChlorineThat's what I've been doing.

Except now.

:o

DOOBEEDOOBEEDOOOOOOOOO
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Chlorine

#126
December 13, 2005, 03:44:01 AM

The Good Reverend Roger

#127
December 13, 2005, 03:44:44 AM
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Chlorine

#128
December 13, 2005, 03:47:30 AM
Hahaha.

Why are we raping this thread? :(

The Good Reverend Roger

#129
December 13, 2005, 03:48:57 AM
Quote from: ChlorineHahaha.

Why are we raping this thread? :(



Look at the way it's dressed!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Chlorine

#130
December 13, 2005, 03:50:44 AM
Appaling.

I thought they banned wearing babies?

The Good Reverend Roger

#131
December 13, 2005, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: ChlorineAppaling.

I thought they banned wearing babies?

Naw.  The Mothers March Against Clothes had a hissy fit.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Zurtok Khan

#132
December 15, 2005, 08:51:02 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle
Quote from: Zurtok Khan
Quote from: The seerPretty much everything in this thread.

Though perhaps you might clear that up for me.
Is discordianism a spiritual and/or religious practice to you and/or ZK or do you treat it as something else? Because as it appears to me from the description you're describing socially desirable personality traits before someone can have the label "Discordian" so if you think of it that way it sounds more like a "good housekeeping" article.

I suppose that may have some kind of use in a religious sense but I don't see it having much to do with the spiritual side.

That's a good question, my friend Seer.  And here is your answer:

Religion as a whole seeks to promote certain traits among it's members, first in the realm of changing (or reinforcing) certain thought patterns, which then filter down into words and actions (assuming the change has taken place properly).  Discordianism does the same thing.  There is a model of human behavior given, and social thought patterns broken down and reconstructed that are unique to Discordianism and Discordians.  The reason (as I see it) that these thought patterns are succesful (and what makes them different) is that instead of attempting to reconstruct, Discordianism seems to simply reinforce ANY thought pattern, no matter how absurd, but it all comes with the simple caveat that Eris will play with you, just for fun (hers not yours).  (Please to note: I just got off a 9 hour shift at wal-mart so my brain is a touch fried, if I am unclear, ask and I shall fix it).

And, I don't see Discordianism so much as a spirituality or a religion.  I think it can be a doorway to religion in someways.  I'm sure I know what I mean, and if it interests you I will explain it tomorrow when I'm more awake.

Quote from: The seer
I'm very militant about that point, because as you may or may not becoming aware of, the world is run by religious people who only experience god in contrived settings. This actually makes them dangerous. There are various reasons why as I'm sure you could make a list.

You sir, amuse me.  They are somehow more dangerous because they've experianced "God" in a contrived setting?  No, they're dangerous because they like to play.  Just like Eris, they play the game for the game's sake.  Do I like them for it?  Not really.  Do I like Eris for it?  Some days.  Why?  Because I feel like I should be able to change something about the what Bush, Dick and his crew are doing.  But, I haven't gotten off my ass to do anything, so what right do I really have to whine if I won't try to get things changed?  These "dangerous" people probably haven't experianced "God" in any setting, or if they have they were to stupid to notice (or possibily too smart to believe it).  Trying to use religion as your measure of a man shows me you're no better then them.

Ohh, and Seer, insulting Roger isn't the best way to...ahh what the hell, do it.  I'm sure I'll have a laugh if you get on his nerves.

Quote from: renkoya, Im disagreeing. I guess I interpreted the principia differently. The way I see it Discordians are more laid back, easy going, and good-natured. We should have sympathy and agreeability and love, those are all good qualities. you shouldnt be a complete jerkoff just so your "different" or whatever. Thats not accomplishing anything. I say if the principia has one overall message its not to be serious but to be funloving and light-hearted. Your making us sound like assholes and eris knows there are enough assholes in the world.

Plus, if ya really wanna change things, then youve gotta have some credibility amoungst people, and you instantly lose credibility with most if you lack sympathy, agreeability or love.

Im agreeing with seer here. Although Im not as into the spiritual aspect, I agree that the world is run by religious people who follow, strict, and completely insane dogmas that they will never deviate from. The USA is one step away from a theocracy. For every kid in my school that I make question their faith, or at the very least, see that atheists arent evil immoral people, thats one more point for our side and one less for the impending theocracy.

So, in short, lighten up. Dont be a jackass just becuase you dont want to go by the laws of what society tells you is appropiate conduct. Show some goddamn empathy for other people.

You missed the point.  The whole entire point.  The point is not to be laid-back, fun-loving, and to shoot rainbows out of your ass.  The point she is a Goddess of CHAOS and STRIFE.  You have both Constructive and Destructive Chaos.  Sure, sure, sure, that includes love and light, but don't try to limit it to love and light.  Experiance the whole fucking range of emotion.

And, fuck society.  Somehow I think some of the people remaining silent on this topic (Death to Poultry and She Who Eats Souls come to mind) would agree, at least on some level.  Both of them, while nice and polite when appropriate will still tell you to go KYSNFTB (or better yet, let someone else do it) if you step out of line.  It's just a bit harder to get them to say it.  

If you really want to change things, you're going to stand up and make a riot.  Not sit on your ass agreeing that "yes, something needs to be done"  or, "ohh, I feel so sorry for those thousands of kids that DIE OF STARVATION every day, but I want to buy a new CD so they can starve."  That's called being a fat-shit.  If you think anything is going to change through agreeability and sympathy, you've got your head screwed on the wrong way.

Love is certainly an important component to changing something, but not the kind you mean.  It's a tough love, that is dedication not a, "I love everybody" while tripping on mushrooms or whatever spiritual nonsense is getting you through the day.  A labour of love requires commitment and sacrifice.  Not empty words about what is wrong or right in the world.


wow.

ZK, my entire opinion of you (which really wasn't based on anything substantial to begin with) just did a 180 with this post.

fucking rah.[/quote]

Btw, does this mean I'm allowed at POEE, UK?
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-Mark Twain

Cain

#133
December 15, 2005, 01:34:51 PM
I never had an objection, neither did Syn (who actually owns the place), so I believe so.

East Coast Hustle

#134
December 15, 2005, 03:33:54 PM
yeah, I mean, what the fuck? you should know not to listen to me when I get like that.
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