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the triumph of maybe logic (?)

Started by LHX, December 22, 2005, 03:28:23 AM

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LHX

Quote from: Jean-Paul FartreHow can one be sure of an agreement if the agreement is a maybe?  

exactly

what can 2 people agree upon in the first place?


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Is there any way to avoid epistemology with Maybe Logic?  If not, doesn't Maybe Logic negate itself?  If so, how?

why avoid epistemology?

how can anything be negated with 'maybe'


if anything - maybe enforces the validity of everything

the same way the phoenix requires ashes in order to be seen



once everything becomes valid
the truth becomes plain as day
(call it a hunch)


the universe does not seem to fit in a jar
maybe logic acknowledges this
neat hell

LHX

Quote from: Jean-Paul Fartre
Quote from: Toots
Quote from: LHX
it would also put an end to property

This is why I think e-prime is not going to be the dominant way of communicating as long as society functions the way that it does now. You and I are only useful to the overall machine as consumers, you can not have consumerism without property. Therefore e-prime, and other endeavours at telling the truth cannot be tolerated.

Think about the sheer absurdity of modern monetary systems. At best we're now exchanging pieces of paper, all pretending that they are worth something. Strange.

I don't know enough about maybe-logic, I'm going to read up on this.

Shrugging indeed is the only true universal language. That and scratching your butt.

If not money, what should represent value?  Isn't that the point of money, agreeing upon a monetary belief for convenience's sake?

people also use bullets and antibiotics 'for convenience sake'
neat hell

the other anonymous

I think people missed the point I was trying to make.

Philosophy is only useful if it gets you laid.

LHX

either use it to fuck
or
get fucked by it



its all hood
neat hell

hooplala

I think it's amazing anyone is able to communicate with anyone else at all, considering we all come from different mind spaces.

Say your father beat you every day and night with a full can of Coke, you would have a completely different idea of "Coke" than I would, and really we would never both understand the other's point of view.

I think it's amazing that even more people aren't murdered every day.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LHX

Quote from: Baron von HooplaI think it's amazing anyone is able to communicate with anyone else at all, considering we all come from different mind spaces.

Say your father beat you every day and night with a full can of Coke, you would have a completely different idea of "Coke" than I would, and really we would never both understand the other's point of view.

I think it's amazing that even more people aren't murdered every day.

give it time hoopla

cosmetics and ointments can only hold a pimple back for so long...
neat hell

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LHX

Quote from: Baron von HooplaTrue dat.

Given up LMNO?

ooooooooooh

you callin him out?



fight fight fight fight fight fight
neat hell

LMNO

No, I'm working.

And waiting for 7 more posts.

LHX

neat hell

hooplala

Quote from: LHX
Quote from: Baron von HooplaTrue dat.

Given up LMNO?

ooooooooooh

you callin him out?



fight fight fight fight fight fight

No, I'm with LMNO on this.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LHX

yeah

i know


me too



just looking for some drama
neat hell

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Jean-Paul Fartre

Oh please.  Spare me the melodrama.

Back to what I was asking AGAIN: doesn't Maybe Logic end up negating itself when it constructs reality out of possibilities?

Everything is possible, nothing is true, etc?  When it applies to ML itself, what are the consequences?
...un homard est-il plus ridicule qu'un chien, qu'un chat, qu'une gazelle, qu'un lion ou toute autre bête dont on se fait suivre ? J'ai le goût des homards, qui sont tranquilles, sérieux, savent les secrets de la mer, n'aboient pas... -- Gérard de Nerval

Whoever after due and proper warning shall be heard to utter the abominable word "Frisco," which has no linguistic or other warrant, shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor, and shall pay into the Imperial Treasury as penalty the sum of twenty-five dollars. -- Norton I

hooplala

Who said E-Prime had anything to do with probabilities?

It's simply a method of changing semantics to change the way we view things.  Probabilities only stem from your perceptions, not from E-Prime.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman