....WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moar later.....maybe....
I WANNA FUCKING SEE IT SO MUCH!
everyone else will prob hate it and laugh at me :sad:
but i thought they did a right proper job making the comedian and rorschach chacters
my dad was displeased with frequent viewing of dr manhattans blue glowing penis :lulz:
Spoiler: Dr Manhattan isn't circumcised.
Quote from: Requia on March 08, 2009, 04:49:45 AM
Spoiler: Dr Manhattan isn't circumcised.
I was laughing to myself all through the movie when I noticed that
Watched it. Liked it.
Never read the comic, feel free to link it to me so I can hate the movie.
i read comic and i still liked it :eek:
Yeah, my only real complaint about the movie was The Comedian's actor. Who sucked, badly when it came to spouting off the horrible shit the comedian says, there was no horrormirth to him.
Quote from: Requia on March 08, 2009, 05:29:30 AM
Yeah, my only real complaint about the movie was The Comedian's actor. Who sucked, badly when it came to spouting off the horrible shit the comedian says, there was no horrormirth to him.
really i thought he was kinda horrormirthy....maybe he just LOOKED horrormirthy....well i dont think he was bad :D
rly liked rorschach's actor. he WILL kill a mofo
rorschach had awesome acting, as did Manhattan
I will get revenge for that mine Fred.
bahahaahaha
I enjoyed pretty much all of it except for the ending because I totally wanted a giant exploded psychic squid on that screen. Also, rorschach was sufficiently awesome
also also, had to put in my brag of seeing the 5 'til midnight opening showing at the imax so there was some massive blue penis.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 08, 2009, 05:11:33 AM
Watched it. Liked it.
Never read the comic, feel free to link it to me so I can hate the movie.
You won't. It's fucking spot-on.
FACT: WATCHMEN MOVIE WAS MADE ACCURATE TO THE COMIC BOOK AS A "GOING AWAY" PRESENT TO ALAN MOORE.
NOT THAT HE'S GOING TO DIE. MORE SO HE HAS SOME GLIMMER OF LOVE FOR HUMANITY WHEN HE ASCENDS TO ELDER GODHOOD.
did anyone walk out of the movie early when you saw it???
there were like all these girls horrified with the comedians violence against women in my theater and they left in a fury :lulz:
Quote from: Richter on March 08, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
FACT: WATCHMEN MOVIE WAS MADE ACCURATE TO THE COMIC BOOK AS A "GOING AWAY" PRESENT TO ALAN MOORE.
NOT THAT HE'S GOING TO DIE. MORE SO HE HAS SOME GLIMMER OF LOVE FOR HUMANITY WHEN HE ASCENDS TO ELDER GODHOOD.
It failed then, Alan Moore made them take his name off the credits he hated it so much.
No. Alan Moore never WANTED his name on the credits to begin with. He was convinced that Watchmen was unfilmable, and wanted nothing to do with it. After what Hollywood did to From Hell and The League of Extraordinary Sean Connery Failure, he has little faith left. Apparently he was so-so about V.
I heard they changed the ending.
I'll wait until the director's cut comes out on DVD, and if it doesn't have the real ending, I'll hunt Zack Snyder down and wear his face for halloween this year.
(note: not really, obviously.)
I didn't like it. I thought the music was really intrusive and rather then aiding/setting the scene all it did was pull me out of the flow of the film.
The first third is excellent. The team america like sex scene and the dumb over the top violence in the prison was cringeworthy. The last third of the film was ok.
Overall the acting didn't let down the film like I expected it to, just the direction I guess. It was too bland for me, not a terrible film, just not a good one.
Quote from: Dirtytime on March 08, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
I heard they changed the ending.
I'll wait until the director's cut comes out on DVD, and if it doesn't have the real ending, I'll hunt Zack Snyder down and wear his face for halloween this year.
(note: not really, obviously.)
The mechanism they use in place of the squid is ok. however they omit a really important scene that ties up the end of the story. Remember when John owns the shit out of ozy by telling him how he has only saved people in the short term, implying he is be nothing more then a petty criminal in the long run. kinda cheapens what happens to Rorschach and very much justifies ozy in murdering everyone.
Oh well
I'm pretty sure Alan Moore said he wasn't going to watch it, anyway.
I still don't know what Watchmen is exactly.
I've avoided most threads about it on other forums but only visited this one because Fred made it.
Comic -> Film. That's all I know.
Quote from: Xooxe on March 08, 2009, 11:31:58 PM
I still don't know what Watchmen is exactly.
I've avoided most threads about it on other forums but only visited this one because Fred made it.
Comic -> Film. That's all I know.
Watchmen is a world that will destroy itself if Justice is served.
Quote from: Requia on March 08, 2009, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: Richter on March 08, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
FACT: WATCHMEN MOVIE WAS MADE ACCURATE TO THE COMIC BOOK AS A "GOING AWAY" PRESENT TO ALAN MOORE.
NOT THAT HE'S GOING TO DIE. MORE SO HE HAS SOME GLIMMER OF LOVE FOR HUMANITY WHEN HE ASCENDS TO ELDER GODHOOD.
It failed then, Alan Moore made them take his name off the credits he hated it so much.
Hence, humanity fucked. What's new? : P
I plan on reading the original graphic novel before seeing the movie.
I'm going to see the movie before I read the comic so I don't get massively disappointed with the fact that the movie didn't live up to the comic.
Only problem with that is that I heard some parts you would have to have read the graphic novel first.
Yeah, but there are parts of the graphic novel where you need to read the graphic novel first. So either way, first time is a first time.
Definitely
Quote from: Suu on March 08, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
No. Alan Moore never WANTED his name on the credits to begin with. He was convinced that Watchmen was unfilmable, and wanted nothing to do with it. After what Hollywood did to From Hell and The League of Extraordinary Sean Connery Failure, he has little faith left. Apparently he was so-so about V.
I thought he didn't see V? Or at least didn't get credited for it.
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
I was impressed that Philip Glass was in the soundtrack.
That's about it.
Am I the only one here who thought the film kinda blew?
Quote from: bones on March 09, 2009, 12:59:30 PM
I was impressed that Philip Glass was in the soundtrack.
That's about it.
Am I the only one here who thought the film kinda blew?
It didn't try enough to blow. its average
i liked it but i didn't like the overdone cheesy sex scene in the middle. (someone else said it was team america-esque, i agree)
the rest was pretty o.k. but i haven't read the comic so i don't have anything to compare it to.
Is that the one between Spectre and Nite Owl?
ugh, yeah.
Yes, but she left the boots on!
yes she wore the boots while leonard cohen made set the tone to be really uncomfortable.
that scene was horrible
Is it "artistic," or does she get her tits out?
Quote from: LMNO redux on March 09, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
Is it "artistic," or does she get her tits out?
its black and white and in french and they bring in a goat to have sex with her.
so yes artistic.
Heh.
I was kind of hoping the big sex scene would be Dr Manhattan's 3-way.
Quote from: LMNO redux on March 09, 2009, 04:47:26 PM
Heh.
I was kind of hoping the big sex scene would be Dr Manhattan's 3-way.
thats there too. Its ok, though she doesn't really protest as much as she did in the comic it was more like she wasn't in the mood at the time.
So far, I agree with Faust.
That is all. Carry on.
Nothing but bloody cam and ts files out there. I'm dying to see this but not desperate enough to put up with shitty local cinema quality. :argh!:
Yeah, I can only find a few rather lame cam's so far either.
I may have to be patient and somehow wait for the dvdrip... Or just go and see it :omg:
I'm glad i paid the 10,5€. Even liked the sex scene :eek:
Quote from: The Borderline Simpleton on March 09, 2009, 06:37:26 PM
Yeah, I can only find a few rather lame cam's so far either.
Im not eaven going to bother looking for cam's. Just going to wait till BDS gets a good one and steal it off him :lulz:
:lulz:
:argh!:
No fair.
Quote from: The Borderline Simpleton on March 09, 2009, 06:37:26 PM
Yeah, I can only find a few rather lame cam's so far either.
I may have to be patient and somehow wait for the dvdrip... Or just go and see it :omg:
My local cinema sounds like you have your head underwater. Way too much bass (I suspect the cones are ripped to hell too) and nothing from the mid to top range. Also their projector seems like some kind of digital affair with a really shit refresh, any fast pans turn into trail soup. I spent a lot of fucking cash on my home setup so I'll wait for the dvd rip and, if it's outstandingly good, I might even shell out for a blueray copy.
I thought it was very faithful, but lacked something. It seemed hollow.
Quote from: Dr Hoopla on March 09, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
I thought it was very faithful, but lacked something. It seemed hollow.
It was missing the "street corner" story.
The everyday people. The people that make you care about millions of deaths taking place.
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
Coming from the man that set "Watchmen" in New York City and managed a few stupid "Americanisms" of his own.
ITT we do not diss Alan Moore in any way, shape or form :argh!:
Quote from: Fred Noodle on March 08, 2009, 05:13:43 PM
did anyone walk out of the movie early when you saw it???
there were like all these girls horrified with the comedians violence against women in my theater and they left in a fury :lulz:
i got that. there were also a large group of youngins behind me that would snicker and giggle like school girls when they showed male ass or dick, but tits were silent. I LoL'd out loud at them.
And to those who saw it in imax: FUCK YOUUUUUU!
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on March 09, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
Coming from the man that set "Watchmen" in New York City and managed a few stupid "Americanisms" of his own.
Yeah I know, his opinion on that awesome thing he created is utterly worthless.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
ITT we do not diss Alan Moore in any way, shape or form :argh!:
alan moors wife left him for their shared girlfriend lol.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
ITT we do not diss Alan Moore in any way, shape or form :argh!:
Yeah, I already lambasted him enough in that other thread.
Anyway, I though the reason he hated V for Vendetta was that he thought it was implied to be a metaphor for shit that was going down in America, and he took a personal offense to that, as he had not intended it that way.
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
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Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
Coming from the man that set "Watchmen" in New York City and managed a few stupid "Americanisms" of his own.
Yeah I know, his opinion on that awesome thing he created is utterly worthless.
He didn't create the movie.
That complaint was about something he himself has done.
Quote from: Tempest Virago on March 09, 2009, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
ITT we do not diss Alan Moore in any way, shape or form :argh!:
Yeah, I already lambasted him enough in that other thread.
Anyway, I though the reason he hated V for Vendetta was that he thought it was implied to be a metaphor for shit that was going down in America, and he took a personal offense to that, as he had not intended it that way.
This is a complaint of his that has merit.
It was most definitely about his fears of where British Politics of the time was heading.
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on March 09, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on March 09, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
Coming from the man that set "Watchmen" in New York City and managed a few stupid "Americanisms" of his own.
Yeah I know, his opinion on that awesome thing he created is utterly worthless.
He didn't create the movie.
That complaint was about something he himself has done.
Its a valid complaint. one that people living in their personal localities generally have when any writer makes assumptions of their area.
Just because he has done it in some of his works doesn't make it a less valid opinion when he is a member of an audience.
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on March 09, 2009, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on March 09, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
he saw it, said he hated seeing awkward american shit made sound english (eggy in a basket etc)
said it was full of plot holes too.
Coming from the man that set "Watchmen" in New York City and managed a few stupid "Americanisms" of his own.
Yeah I know, his opinion on that awesome thing he created is utterly worthless.
He didn't create the movie.
That complaint was about something he himself has done.
Its a valid complaint. one that people living in their personal localities generally have when any writer makes assumptions of their area.
Just because he has done it in some of his works doesn't make it a less valid opinion when he is a member of an audience.
When I ran across his assumptions about my "Personal Locality" I chalked it up to alternate world history ,alternate habits.
I guess he thought that nine years(the difference between when he wrote the story and when the story is set) in a country that wound up following a different course than the world he lives in couldn't possibly include British people making "eggy in a nest". In his story it obviously didn't and his opinion is that there is no valid reason why it could happen based on our worlds current reality.
Ok, I saw watchmen last night at IMAX, Big blue cock, FTW.
And yes, I LOVED it and so did Scree.
Best super hero movie ever.
Also: This is fucking awesome and I watched it BEFORE I saw the movie, and actually thought it was FOR REAL, then I realised after watching the movie it was a parody... and watched it again, and I couldn't stop laughing.
Pure. Fucking. Genius.
EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
lol I forgot to link it
Uh, what is fucking awesome?
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
ITT we do not diss Alan Moore in any way, shape or form :argh!:
Fuck Alan Moore, the man needs a damn hair cut.
I just saw it.
My M.O. for judging movies is pretty lenient; I judged the Matrix trilogy for what it really was, which is sci-fi/action. In that light, they were pretty good.
I'm judging "Watchmen" as a superhero movie. In case nobody noticed, there aren't many superhero movies with intelligent social commentary, good action, and not-totally-cornball romance.
8/10
Quote from: Rumckle on March 10, 2009, 06:48:44 AM
Uh, what is fucking awesome?
sorry, in my haste to get to school, I forgot to add the link.
Now modified for your convenience.
OK, I just saw the film (finished about 10 minutes ago).
Immediate impressions:
Both too long and too rushed. May have been better as a trilogy, or even as a one-off TV series.
Music in some scenes was annoying. Yes, we get it was set in the mid 80s. Now stop playing pop music from before when I was born.
Zack Snyder was a poor choice of director. Sadly, John Frankenheimer is dead, but someone more with his sort of experience, of actually gritty, politically involved films would have been better.
Same for camera work. Looked too glossy, and clean cut. Made it feel like a comic, on the screen.
Casting was generally good.
Despite having to rush through it, was generally faithful to the plot.
That said, I have misgivings about the ending and wonder about the credibility of what Ozymandias did in the film, compared to the comic.
All in all, fairly average. Could have been done better, but equally could have been done much, much worse. I think some mistakes could have been fixed, but others were more due to the problem of converting it to the big screen in the first place. Would watch again, but would not say it was brilliant.
I gotta admit some of the musical interludes didn't quite gel, but perhaps that was the point. The whole story has a similar feeling of incongruity.
SPOILERS
People keep mentioning how different the ending is, but I didn't find it that different... instead of the world uniting against a giant squid alien they unite against Dr Manhattan who seemed uninterested in life on Earth anyway... what's so different?
SPOILERS
Not a lot, really. But I did want to see the squid aliens crush people with giant dead tentacles.
ETA: But if you think about it, Manhattan didn't really have a motive, whereas the fake aliens had the benefit of being inscrutable as well as less falsifiable.
Uh, have you guys heard of NOT POSTING SPOILERS?
Quote from: Dr Hoopla on March 10, 2009, 03:06:26 PM
People keep mentioning how different the ending is, but I didn't find it that different... instead of the world uniting against a giant squid alien they unite against Dr Manhattan who seemed uninterested in life on Earth anyway... what's so different?
That bit was find for me, its that they never gave the small speech john makes that undermining ozy after that
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2009, 03:25:06 PM
Uh, have you guys heard of NOT POSTING SPOILERS?
dumbledore dies
Could you at least put *spoiler alert* before posting spoilers please?
Ahh, well that tears it. I guess the Mrs and I will have to go to the Jonas Brothers movie now.
My bad, I pretty much assumed everyone here either saw it, read it, didn't plan to, or didn't care.
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchment, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchment, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
I knew you were joking, but Cain had a point. We have to think of other people's feelings.
Sorry... spoilers don't spoil things for me so I forget they do for some people...
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Ahh, well that tears it. I guess the Mrs and I will have to go to the Jonas Brothers movie now.
Nick dies at the end.
[/spoiler]
:x :x :x
Soylent green is Luke's Father.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchment, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
That's completely inaccurate. X-Men has just as much emo!
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchmen, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
It would be easy to say that if you hadn't read the comic, based upon the ads.
I think you should probably give it more of a chance. If you like pulpy hero action written intelligently, you'll probably find something to like about it.
Quote from: Tempest Virago on March 10, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchmen, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
That's completely inaccurate. X-Men has just as much emo!
Quote from: Felix on March 10, 2009, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchmen, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
It would be easy to say that if you hadn't read the comic, based upon the ads.
I think you should probably give it more of a chance. If you like pulpy hero action written intelligently, you'll probably find something to like about it.
I guess for whatever reason the comic book movies just haven't appealed to me, and I loved comic books. That said, when it's released to the On Demand thingy I'll probably watch it.
Quote from: Felix on March 10, 2009, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchmen, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
It would be easy to say that if you hadn't read the comic, based upon the ads.
I think you should probably give it more of a chance. If you like pulpy hero action written intelligently, you'll probably find something to like about it.
x-men was horrible they got everything all wrong and made me sad :cry: :cry:
mystique was hawt tho :fap:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Tempest Virago on March 10, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
FTR, I was kidding. I have zero interest in it. From a perspective of not knowing shit about The Watchmen, it just looks like the X-Men with less baldies and more emo.
That's completely inaccurate. X-Men has just as much emo!
I was trying, unsuccessfully (as usual), to be funny, not actually saying you should know that.
I'll be happy when there is a movie based on the Madball comics. Until then, the rest of them can pound sand.
IMO: NEEDED MORE COCK
So far one of the best comic book adaptations I've ever seen (although I'm excited about the upcoming Cerberus film.) I was impressed even at the amount of dialogue they managed to preserve from the comic, although minor differences will annoy the die-hard neck-beard, it was the least butchered of any adaption of Moores work so far. So much of the plot in the comic is in the background, in the writing, Roy Ellis' book, Rorschachs journal, Rorschachs psych report, even the fucking comic in the comic (which I actually felt was a bit too much, when I read it), that they could never hope to replicate that immersion in the film. The movie was a movie, and it was a good movie, but it needed more cock.
I hated how I had to wait through a third of the film before seeing Dr. Manhattans penis, granted there was plenty of cock by the end, but the first third of the movie teases you with suggestive angles as if they are somehow trying to soften the blow. Needs more cock, period. I didnt feel that the sex was too much, the almost-rape scene was sufficiently brutal, the chevy-chase femaleloveinterest sex scene was a little cheesy with the music (and the symbolic flamethrower=stock footage of rockets going off), and now that its been pointed out to me here the Dr. Manhattan³ was a bit out of context.
I agree with whoever thought the presence of the music was a little overbearing, with the exception of the Dr. Manhattan on Mars sequence, and the opening montage, there were a lot of points where it was overbearing and not even relevent to the setting. What was with the end credits?! Was that the fucking Dropkick Murphys!! WTF! Also, needed more cock.
I liked the acting, I liked pretty much all of the acting, I was expecting absolute shit from the previews and it turned out to not be that bad, so I was pretty happy. Although, in my minds ear, Kovacs had a really nasally voice when he wasnt rorschach... but whatever, I'm sure if they ever portray Deadpool on the big screen, he probably wont be voiced by Gilbert Godfried, and that will be another dream of mine down the toilet. Needed more cock. I was however overjoyed at the choice of Chevy Chase as the Night Owl, very appropriate choice for the setting, but still: needed more cock.
I felt that the ending was way too fucking happy for what happens, and while the device they used wasnt terribly hackneyed, It wasnt the comic... so once again, there will be hordes of enraged neckbeards spewing their bile onto the interwebs in between furious cheetohs fueled masturbation sessions and mountain dew enemas. A warning to mothers, STAY OUT OF THEIR ROOMS.
Still it needed more cock. I cant wait for the DVD release, which should hopefully have at least another 12 minutes of uncircumcised member.
So, I guess overall I would say that this is the best comic-book adaptation since Ingmar Bergmans Persona.
Movie sucked. I almost want to mail Alan Moore a check for $15 to cover the cost of the IMAX ticket as an apology for having seen it. My first words upon leaving the theater were "Fuck that shit."
Going to see it tomorrow in the IMAX.
Quote from: Z³ on March 10, 2009, 11:34:53 PM
IMO: NEEDED MORE COCK
Although, in my minds ear, Kovacs had a really nasally voice when he wasnt rorschach...
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Watchmen-the-watchmen-215413_225_185.jpg) (http://www.stallioncornell.com/uploaded_images/ec15553a-755928.jpg)
Coincidence?
Quote from: Z³ on March 10, 2009, 11:34:53 PMI'm sure if they ever portray Deadpool on the big screen, he probably wont be voiced by Gilbert Godfried, and that will be another dream of mine down the toilet.
Ryan Reynolds plays the role for X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds
RYAN FUCKING REYNOLDS?
Fuck that guy.
Also, I heard what the spoiler is, and I can't help but be disappointed. Sure, it's a bit unexpected as far as how movies usually end, but unless they totally re-wronte the Ozymandias part, it sounds way too out of character.
Quote from: Z³ on March 10, 2009, 11:34:53 PM(and the symbolic flamethrower=stock footage of rockets going off)
To be fair, that's also in the comic.
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
RYAN FUCKING REYNOLDS?
Fuck that guy.
Also, I heard what the spoiler is, and I can't help but be disappointed. Sure, it's a bit unexpected as far as how movies usually end, but unless they totally re-wronte the Ozymandias part, it sounds way too out of character.
the sexuality thing? (having one as opposed to not?)
No, the bit they replaced the giant squid with...
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 12:21:05 PM
No, the bit they replaced the giant squid with...
Actually as a plot device it kinda works, but they focused on it too much and then ignored the scene that resolves everything.
Spoiler:
because they left out johns speech to ozymandias it makes it out that john simply agrees with what has happened, It never shows him in the better light after killing rorcharch. they never undermine ozymandias plan by saying it only saves the world in the short term, thus justifying all the killing.
I JUST SAW IT AND I REALLY LIKED IT.
EVERYONE ELSE CAN FUCK OFF.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
I JUST SAW IT AND I REALLY LIKED IT.
EVERYONE ELSE CAN FUCK OFF.
yeah that's pretty much how i felt.
(cept for that gawdawful love scene)
so i agree.
Quote from: Faust on March 11, 2009, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 12:21:05 PM
No, the bit they replaced the giant squid with...
Actually as a plot device it kinda works, but they focused on it too much and then ignored the scene that resolves everything.
Spoiler:
because they left out johns speech to ozymandias it makes it out that john simply agrees with what has happened, It never shows him in the better light after killing rorcharch. they never undermine ozymandias plan by saying it only saves the world in the short term, thus justifying all the killing.
Since Ozymandias still has the power to make it seem as though Doc Manhattan is active, the facade can be carried on indefinitely.
Quote from: Squid-diddle on March 12, 2009, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
I JUST SAW IT AND I REALLY LIKED IT.
EVERYONE ELSE CAN FUCK OFF.
yeah that's pretty much how i felt.
(cept for that gawdawful love scene)
so i agree.
The sex scene had my friends and I rolling in the aisles. I mean the flame thrower. Really...REALLY?!
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
That was put in there for the corn factor, it HAD to have been.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2009, 04:35:21 AM
The sex scene had my friends and I rolling in the aisles. I mean the flame thrower.
That was put in there for the corn factor, it HAD to have been.
Actually, I imagine it was put in because that happened in the book.
Quote from: Felix on March 12, 2009, 03:40:20 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 11, 2009, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 12:21:05 PM
No, the bit they replaced the giant squid with...
Actually as a plot device it kinda works, but they focused on it too much and then ignored the scene that resolves everything.
Spoiler:
because they left out johns speech to ozymandias it makes it out that john simply agrees with what has happened, It never shows him in the better light after killing rorcharch. they never undermine ozymandias plan by saying it only saves the world in the short term, thus justifying all the killing.
Since Ozymandias still has the power to make it seem as though Doc Manhattan is active, the facade can be carried on indefinitely.
further justifying what he did
Any y'all found this yet? :evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
I finally saw it!
and liked it
I agree with z3, not enough cock.
When they put this on TV, you'll see an edited version in which they cropped out the dongs
I wish Manhattan did some midscreen waggling, that would be really hard to crop out.
also, I wonder how many dongs they modeled before they arrived at that one.
Maybe they borrowed the leftovers from the Caligula movie set. There were cocks everywhere in that movie.
Quote from: Richter on March 12, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Any y'all found this yet? :evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
Yes, I linked it a page or two back.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2009, 04:35:21 AM
Quote from: Squid-diddle on March 12, 2009, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
I JUST SAW IT AND I REALLY LIKED IT.
EVERYONE ELSE CAN FUCK OFF.
yeah that's pretty much how i felt.
(cept for that gawdawful love scene)
so i agree.
The sex scene had my friends and I rolling in the aisles. I mean the flame thrower. Really...REALLY?!
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
That was put in there for the corn factor, it HAD to have been.
Quote from: Dr Hoopla on March 11, 2009, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: Z³ on March 10, 2009, 11:34:53 PM(and the symbolic flamethrower=stock footage of rockets going off)
To be fair, that's also in the comic.
Oh I remember the flame thrower, I was just surprised they left in the sex at all.
Quote from: Lysergic on March 12, 2009, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: Richter on March 12, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Any y'all found this yet? :evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
Yes, I linked it a page or two back.
Whoops. Blue glowing cock and repost.
I still have to see it, sounds like it's worth catching big - screen wise.
The plot adaptation, based on how much Suu said it stuck to the comic, makes sense. It does remove some depth from the whole thing, but leaves less head scratching for the masses.
Where I'm not quite sure about it yet is it's take on Dr. Manhattan's morality. In the comics, his leaving earth seemed more like a development of his growing detatchment and ambiguity towards Earth as a whole, almost a relief since he was no longer needed as a living trump card for U.S.A. superiority. Movie wise, with him getting the blame for Ozymandias' acts, and becoming cast as "Snowball" to the whole world, his leaving had less of that detatchment somehow.
They went into why he goes to Mars.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3356/alanmoorem.jpg)
holy shit that is incredible.
where did you find that?
:lol: googled "alan moore's reaction to watchmen" and that was one of the the first hits
:lulz:
Glycon even makes an appearance! Brilliant!
Quote from: Cramulus on March 12, 2009, 01:42:06 PM
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3356/alanmoorem.jpg)
I bet that's totally what Alan Moore's inner sanctum looks like.
Just to reiterate... I DID like this movie.
I forgot to mention that I was a little displeased they left out Ozymandias' implied homosexuality.
Also, needed more cock.
It was pointed out to me that Dr. Manhattans cock never moved. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
It should have at least jiggled a little bit, right?
...why were you staring at his penis?
the whole time!!
what?
wait...
:sad: i forgot what i was doing.
Quote from: Suu on March 13, 2009, 05:19:28 AM
...why were you staring at his penis?
Three words:
Big.
Blue.
Cock.
Why
wouldn't you stare at it?
Also, this post needs more cock.
(http://www.bluerooster.com/images/roosters/bluerooster.jpg)
:yoinked for new avatar:
Quote from: Z³ on March 13, 2009, 01:49:16 AM
Just to reiterate... I DID like this movie.
I forgot to mention that I was a little displeased they left out Ozymandias' implied homosexuality.
Also, needed more cock.
It was pointed out to me that Dr. Manhattans cock never moved. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
It should have at least jiggled a little bit, right?
They didn't but that's not in the comics, when Dan goes on the computer there is a folder marked 'boys'.
It was a very ham handed thing to do.
especially when you realise that in the comics its not implied homosexuality its an androgyny or some kind of sexual ambivalence.
I thought perhaps bisexuality, given his admiration of Alexander the Great
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2009, 12:30:27 PM
I thought perhaps bisexuality, given his admiration of Alexander the Great
That would fit the bisexual villain cliche that was all the rage in the eighties
so the film basicly changed a crime/political drama into an action flick?
Nah, wasn't nearly that bad, the story is close to the same, the onl part that really got gutted was the existentialism.
i read something about 7 new fight scenes...
is this new material or just longer panels or scenes of previous fights?
graphic novels being allowed as english reading assignments
is probally the reason my spelling and grammer r the best
The fight scenes are a good bit longer, I don't think any are out of place though, except maybe one (will have to check the comic to be sure).
the fight scenes are fine, i wont hear ill of the fight scenes
My favorite part was the opening credits montage to Bob Dylan.
Quote from: Suu on March 14, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
My favorite part was the opening credits montage to Bob Dylan.
Mine too. I loved how the superheros were stealing famous moments in humanities history with john waiting on the moon for Neil, silhouette grabbing the girl instead of the sailor (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/06/nyregion/06kiss.2_span.jpg), or the retirement party last supper. These were all original material but kept closer to the ideas in the watchmen then some of the scenes that were done panel for panel.
Quote from: Faust on March 13, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2009, 12:30:27 PM
I thought perhaps bisexuality, given his admiration of Alexander the Great
That would fit the bisexual villain cliche that was all the rage in the eighties
There is a trope referencing this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepravedBisexual I note Ozymandias isn't on the list, but his sexuality is more implied than outright stated anyway.
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 01:47:29 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 13, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2009, 12:30:27 PM
I thought perhaps bisexuality, given his admiration of Alexander the Great
That would fit the bisexual villain cliche that was all the rage in the eighties
There is a trope referencing this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepravedBisexual I note Ozymandias isn't on the list, but his sexuality is more implied than outright stated anyway.
I dunno man, I always got feelings of isolation and sexual ambivilance from him. he might have been bi if he had time for sex sorta thing
I always figured he fucked Bubastis
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
Except it's red color was super saturated. Si'ight tho'.
(http://blog.wired.com/underwire/images/2008/11/10/watbn_ozymandias_3.jpg) <-----
Quote from: Urraco el Faus aus Mí Luàn on March 14, 2009, 04:57:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
Except it's red color was super saturated. Si'ight tho'.
Its been a while since I read Watchmen, and I also saw it on a (lower quality) camera rip, so admittedly I am not the best person to ask.
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
A brief appearance near the end, WTF??
Next you'll be telling me Rorschach doesn't get any dialogue :argh!:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
A brief appearance near the end, WTF??
Next you'll be telling me Rorschach doesn't get any dialogue :argh!:
They slaughtered Rorschach (figuratively) in the psychologist part.
Everywhere else he was alright.
nah, they also have him butcher a defenseless chained up person. that goes against the no compromises aspect of his character.
Quote from: Faust on March 14, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
nah, they also have him butcher a defenseless chained up person. that goes against the no compromises aspect of his character.
S'what I ment with the "psychologist part"
"Rorschach! What are you doing! That's not a Hand Saw! Where are the matches?! NOO!!"
-Urraco while watching Watchmen in the theature.
I wonder why they changed that? I think I understand why the cigarette/eye part wasn't put in (I think there is almost certainly something in the Hollywood code about children appearing to smoke) but was a rationale put forward for changing that scene? I'd just like to know if it was purely aesthetic or for another reason.
Probably for the hollywood obsession with making things easy to swallow.
You see, the people that go to the movies don't want to think about character development, or Rorschach's philosophy that (in the book) was given a lot of attention for the purpose of making him more than just a bad-guy killing maniac.
On another note, did anyone notice the over done sex scenes? It's amazing what they can do with three panels in a movie.
I'm guessing they thought that the mainstream audience would think it was overdone and cheesy. That's just my thoughts, but I was totally waiting for that part too, kinda let me down...
Funny, cuz' it ended up seeming overdone and cheesy anyway.
Especially with those matrix-esque fight scenes.
Please tell me you guys aren't telling me they took out the bit about the dogs? :x
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 09:57:49 PM
Please tell me you guys aren't telling me they took out the bit about the dogs? :x
No thats still in it, but rorchach chops up the guy when he is in handcuffs instead of giving him a fighting chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
um...
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 15, 2009, 05:33:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
um...
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO wants to smother smokngoat with a pillow. on March 16, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
000; pirate story is allegory of the main theme.
ok I was kinda waiting for someone to say that, I would have pointed it out but I couldn't find the right word--allegory (I thought allegory was something slightly different, but wikipedia says im wrong).
anyway I figured it would be something like that, but it was grasping too far, proper allegory should be more obvious (IMO). It almost felt like a cut-up, a story interleaved with another, giving the suggestion of an allegory, but if the pirate story was one, I really felt any random story could have been.
Which bits of the story correspond to which bits of the main theme then? Especially since the pirate story reaches its conclusion before the main one does.
QuoteAlso, author of pirate story wrote the telepathic script to put in giant squid's head.
okay I gotta admit I missed that part. I only skimmed that bit of text between the chapters, read most of the others, but since the story wasnt that compelling (IMO), I didnt feel like reading it. FTR, I did read the other between-texts, though.
all in all, I suppose the Watchmen comic didn't impress me much, because I only just finished reading Transmetropolitan in one action packed hate fun horrormirth reading streak, which was 10x more awesome (IMO). And it appears to be where Roger gets a lot of his lines from :-) [or maybe it's the other way around :eek:]
CAINAD INTRUDES WITHOUT READING THE LAST 10 PAGES BECAUSE HE'D RATHER JUST BUTT IN AND GIVE HIS UNSOLICITED OPINION, KTHX:
The movie was decent. I agree with Faust that the music often intruded on the scenes; I usually understood why they chose the songs they did, but at times it was distracting. For example, "The Sound of Silence" was a decent choice for the scene they played it over, but it's not supposed to be a LOUD song, so it sounded weird and distracting to hear a mellow Simon and Garfunkle song being pumped out of the loudspeakers like that.
Quote from: Urraco on March 16, 2009, 02:01:50 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 15, 2009, 05:33:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
um...
:lulz:
That was a change of underpants moment for me. :x
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 16, 2009, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO wants to smother smokngoat with a pillow. on March 16, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
000; pirate story is allegory of the main theme.
ok I was kinda waiting for someone to say that, I would have pointed it out but I couldn't find the right word--allegory (I thought allegory was something slightly different, but wikipedia says im wrong).
anyway I figured it would be something like that, but it was grasping too far, proper allegory should be more obvious (IMO). It almost felt like a cut-up, a story interleaved with another, giving the suggestion of an allegory, but if the pirate story was one, I really felt any random story could have been.
Which bits of the story correspond to which bits of the main theme then? Especially since the pirate story reaches its conclusion before the main one does.
QuoteAlso, author of pirate story wrote the telepathic script to put in giant squid's head.
okay I gotta admit I missed that part. I only skimmed that bit of text between the chapters, read most of the others, but since the story wasnt that compelling (IMO), I didnt feel like reading it. FTR, I did read the other between-texts, though.
all in all, I suppose the Watchmen comic didn't impress me much, because I only just finished reading Transmetropolitan in one action packed hate fun horrormirth reading streak, which was 10x more awesome (IMO). And it appears to be where Roger gets a lot of his lines from :-) [or maybe it's the other way around :eek:]
An innocent man is witness to horror, and sees the horror
en route to slaughter all he knows and loves best.
To save them, he first endures comitting horrible acts in order to get to a place he can stop the threat.
Deranged by fear and the atrocities he has witnessed, he winds up acting out the horror he wished to avoid.
He eventually sees he is dammned by his own pathetic attempts to save that which he had loved.
I think it's perfectly clear, actually.
is that the third or fourth time that video's been posted ITT? :lulz:
also: Ozy's pet? WTF was that supposed to be? It looked like it was straight outta Dr. Seuss.
A GENETICALLY ALTER LYNX I THINK, I FORGET. HOLY FUCK CAPSLOCK!
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
is that the third or fourth time that video's been posted ITT? :lulz:
also: Ozy's pet? WTF was that supposed to be? It looked like it was straight outta Dr. Seuss.
You've never read watchmen????? :eek:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?
it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of
There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered.
A brief appearance near the end, WTF??
cartoon seems to give them a shaggy and scooby vibe doesnt it
Quote from: LMNO wants to smother smokngoat with a pillow. on March 16, 2009, 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 16, 2009, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO wants to smother smokngoat with a pillow. on March 16, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
000; pirate story is allegory of the main theme.
ok I was kinda waiting for someone to say that, I would have pointed it out but I couldn't find the right word--allegory (I thought allegory was something slightly different, but wikipedia says im wrong).
anyway I figured it would be something like that, but it was grasping too far, proper allegory should be more obvious (IMO). It almost felt like a cut-up, a story interleaved with another, giving the suggestion of an allegory, but if the pirate story was one, I really felt any random story could have been.
Which bits of the story correspond to which bits of the main theme then? Especially since the pirate story reaches its conclusion before the main one does.
QuoteAlso, author of pirate story wrote the telepathic script to put in giant squid's head.
okay I gotta admit I missed that part. I only skimmed that bit of text between the chapters, read most of the others, but since the story wasnt that compelling (IMO), I didnt feel like reading it. FTR, I did read the other between-texts, though.
all in all, I suppose the Watchmen comic didn't impress me much, because I only just finished reading Transmetropolitan in one action packed hate fun horrormirth reading streak, which was 10x more awesome (IMO). And it appears to be where Roger gets a lot of his lines from :-) [or maybe it's the other way around :eek:]
An innocent man is witness to horror, and sees the horror en route to slaughter all he knows and loves best.
To save them, he first endures comitting horrible acts in order to get to a place he can stop the threat.
Deranged by fear and the atrocities he has witnessed, he winds up acting out the horror he wished to avoid.
He eventually sees he is dammned by his own pathetic attempts to save that which he had loved.
I think it's perfectly clear, actually.
In case 000 missed this amongst all the spaggishness.
I know this is a bump
Just seen this movie, and coming from someone who never read the book (or comic, I think it's a comic) I was confused and bored. I think it was because I didn't have any emotional connection to any of the characters going in I just didn't fully grasp what the film maker was getting at.
It looked nice, but was very long, and WAY too many characters who I had no attachment with. So unfortunately I got bored. Not cause I was craving more action, actually was craving less and more back story if that makes sense.
I'm going to watch it again during the Christmas holidays next month with my friend who knows about the source material so that might change my opinion.
Just wanted to give my two cents on the movie, coming from someone who didn't even hear about the source material till this year, and only really from this site and few other internet sites.
This seems like more of a movie for the fans, (which is not a bad thing) so if your like me in your lack of knowledge of the source material and your thinking of buying it maybe rent it first.
Seems like a reasonable summary, the film was sterile, boring, and generally more miss then hit.
i had the same feeling when I read the comic. then I watched the movie and loved it. IMO, you have to see it twice, I think, because the story is a lot cooler if you see it all coming.
also somewhere on this board (or in this thread maybe) is some kind of philosophical deconstruction on Watchmen, I read that in between the comic and the movie and it was very helpful on appreciating the movie.
also, when I read the comic, I kind of glossed over the "alternative history" element in the story :oops: but then, I think it's harder to miss that with the movie.
just be thankful the movie didn't have the pirate comic-in-a-comic "watch the author fail at allegory" bullshit.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 03, 2009, 07:21:30 PM
i had the same feeling when I read the comic. then I watched the movie and loved it. IMO, you have to see it twice, I think, because the story is a lot cooler if you see it all coming.
also somewhere on this board (or in this thread maybe) is some kind of philosophical deconstruction on Watchmen, I read that in between the comic and the movie and it was very helpful on appreciating the movie.
also, when I read the comic, I kind of glossed over the "alternative history" element in the story :oops: but then, I think it's harder to miss that with the movie.
just be thankful the movie didn't have the pirate comic-in-a-comic "watch the author fail at allegory" bullshit.
While the pirate story is pretty bland and uninteresting It does make the squid ending tangible and keep up the suspension of disbelief, granted that would never have worked for the film and I am glad they didn't attempt it.
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on March 08, 2009, 04:43:57 AM
my dad was displeased with frequent viewing of dr manhattans blue glowing penis :lulz:
bump to comment on something that bothers me (not with Fred's dad but people in general):
JESUS MONTE CHRISTO ON A CRACKER, Dr. Manhattan's wang gets a grand total of maybe 10 seconds of screen time if you add it all up. Holy fuck when will the world I live in quit being made of 5th-graders? :crankey:
srsly I was looking for his pen0r, the way people went on about it, I was expecting at least one close up, but the only times when I think I saw it was from a distance and a bit unclear cause he's being all blue and glowy.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 01:26:53 AM
srsly I was looking for his pen0r, the way people went on about it, I was expecting at least one close up, but the only times when I think I saw it was from a distance and a bit unclear cause he's being all blue and glowy.
You're not looking
hard enough.
I just saw this movie for the first time.
I'm not impressed, but for totally different reasons than I expected.
I figured that I'd mostly dig the movie until the changed ending, which I figured would totally piss me off.
Most of the movie was pretty boring and utterly lacked the suspense that propelled the book, but the revised ending actually seemed to fit better and make more sense in the narrative than the original ending.
At least they did a good job of making the characters look sort of like they did in the book.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 06, 2009, 06:03:08 AM
I just saw this movie for the first time.
I'm not impressed, but for totally different reasons than I expected.
I figured that I'd mostly dig the movie until the changed ending, which I figured would totally piss me off.
Most of the movie was pretty boring and utterly lacked the suspense that propelled the book, but the revised ending actually seemed to fit better and make more sense in the narrative than the original ending.
At least they did a good job of making the characters look sort of like they did in the book.
The more I think about it the more Terry Gillian's idea of making a 10 part mini series for television sounds better. Of course it would have been unfilmable in his opinion, costing a million dollars a page - but that was almost 20 years ago now, and with modern technology, as an HBO special I think it could have worked.
Well it least they didn't let Micheal Bay direct it (he was one of the first directors suppose to tackle it) though the director of Requiem of a Dream (don't remember his name) was the second director. He wanted to set it in modern times with Vietnam being replaced with Iraq, Nixon replaced with Bush, ect. which made the studio a little nervous. :lulz:
arronsky? or somtging
Darren Aronofsky.
Who got dumb lucky with "Requiem for a Dream", apparently, since everything else he ever directed is absolute shit.
Yes, even Pi. Especially Pi.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 06, 2009, 08:50:59 PM
Darren Aronofsky.
Who got dumb lucky with "Requiem for a Dream", apparently, since everything else he ever directed is absolute shit.
Yes, even Pi. Especially Pi.
The Fountain is far better then RFAD
the fountain was TERRIBLE
I liked Fountain, sort of. It was the thing with the buddhist alien dude on the tree spaceship and something about God or something right?
It was pretty imagery.
And a weird story.
Zack Snyder is probably among the least imaginative directors I've ever seen. It makes him great for capturing the imagery of his source material, which shot for shot Watchmen accomplished pretty well (though his treatment was much better suited to a comic purely about looking good, 300). In stylizing the characters for the movie, he missed the point of them being past their prime and quite a bit out of their league. Scenes where they fought nameless attackers, mostly when dealing with Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II, were beefed up with dozens of guys getting knocked down where in the comic it was only about two or three.
In remaining so faithful to the dialogue, he missed that the writing that lends itself so well to the comic is cheesy and stupid on film, further leadening one of the best written graphic novels with wooden, distant actors. Rorschach was done pretty well though, by that guy who played the pedophile in Little Children. I'm also strangely a fan of Billy Crudup aka Russell Hammond from Almost Famous, aka the son from Big Fish, aka that voice from those Mastercard commercials, so I was alright with his Dr. Manhattan treatment.
The ending, while more fitting to the movie than the comic ending would have been, still doesn't make a fuck ton of sense because
Spoiler alert from a movie from almost a year ago
Ozymandius pins the whole thing on Dr. Manhattan, thus supposely uniting the world against a common enemy. It just doesn't seem believable when you know some foreign leader would just say "Yeah, but it was the American super-man that did all this, so it's their fault." I guess that it's sort've the point that Veidt's scheming wasn't really worth it, though.
I stick by my earlier, less rant fueled review of "fuck that shit" and continue on to Darren Aronofsky, who seems a constant source of debate on this board.
I thought RFAD was great when I saw it, but one of those movies that on reflection doesn't hold up as well.
I never enjoyed Pi.
I never saw The Fountain, but I would like to.
The Wrestler was one of the most painful experiences I've ever been through, and as much as I enjoyed the movie I would never subject myself to sitting through it again. I have the same feelings about the first Evil Dead. Mickey Rourke was robbed of a best actor Oscar for that show, though.
I have faith in Aronofsky to deliver a pretty high quality movie, when it comes down to it. His fans tend to take their hero worship of him too far and his detractors seem to do the same with his demonization. He's neither the superman nor the devil he's made out to be, just another boy wonder director with a series of cult successes that will fluctuate between moderate critical success and spectacular failure before becoming a recognized and regular fare. Give me Danny Boyle any day.
EoC,
douching the thread up a bit.
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on November 06, 2009, 09:35:29 PM
the fountain was TERRIBLE
Its got my favorite soundtrack to any film, it was unique, pretty and had a good story.
Spawn soundtrack pwns all movie soundtracks so far for me. Even though the movie was awful. Ok and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack is of course classic.
What's the Fountain's soundtrack like? I can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure if Watchmen would have been made a TV series I never would've watched it or quit before getting halfway cause seriously, if you don't know about the awesome plotting going on, pretty much fuck all is happening in the entire comic right up until the conclusion.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
Spawn soundtrack pwns all movie soundtracks so far for me. Even though the movie was awful. Ok and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack is of course classic.
What's the Fountain's soundtrack like? I can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure if Watchmen would have been made a TV series I never would've watched it or quit before getting halfway cause seriously, if you don't know about the awesome plotting going on, pretty much fuck all is happening in the entire comic right up until the conclusion.
It's kind've true. I was largely unimpressed on my first read through. Once I picked it up again I was completely in love with everything (minus the Tales of the Black Freighter part).
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
Spawn soundtrack pwns all movie soundtracks so far for me. Even though the movie was awful. Ok and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack is of course classic.
What's the Fountain's soundtrack like? I can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure if Watchmen would have been made a TV series I never would've watched it or quit before getting halfway cause seriously, if you don't know about the awesome plotting going on, pretty much fuck all is happening in the entire comic right up until the conclusion.
The fountains soundtrack is mostly cello but it really set the mood well, I listen to it whenever I need to study or anything like that.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 06, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
Spawn soundtrack pwns all movie soundtracks so far for me. Even though the movie was awful. Ok and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack is of course classic.
What's the Fountain's soundtrack like? I can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure if Watchmen would have been made a TV series I never would've watched it or quit before getting halfway cause seriously, if you don't know about the awesome plotting going on, pretty much fuck all is happening in the entire comic right up until the conclusion.
The fountains soundtrack is mostly cello but it really set the mood well, I listen to it whenever I need to study or anything like that.
well i love cellos so im going to check out the sound track since i dont remember :D
but the plot was retardulous
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on November 06, 2009, 11:29:10 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 06, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
Spawn soundtrack pwns all movie soundtracks so far for me. Even though the movie was awful. Ok and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack is of course classic.
What's the Fountain's soundtrack like? I can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure if Watchmen would have been made a TV series I never would've watched it or quit before getting halfway cause seriously, if you don't know about the awesome plotting going on, pretty much fuck all is happening in the entire comic right up until the conclusion.
The fountains soundtrack is mostly cello but it really set the mood well, I listen to it whenever I need to study or anything like that.
well i love cellos so im going to check out the sound track since i dont remember :D
but the plot was retardulous
What was retardulous? It was a basic concept told in an odd way, it was just about grieving for someone who died and having to go on without them.
Fred may have meant the whole historical bit that was woven in. I have to say I lost patience with that quite a lot. Mostly because I was way more into what was happening in the here and now rather than the meanderings about the past.
Quote from: Jenne on November 06, 2009, 11:56:46 PM
Fred may have meant the whole historical bit that was woven in. I have to say I lost patience with that quite a lot. Mostly because I was way more into what was happening in the here and now rather than the meanderings about the past.
Even after it was revealed to be the book she was writing? It is used to break up the pace, I liked it, I didn't really like its conclusion though.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 07, 2009, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 06, 2009, 11:56:46 PM
Fred may have meant the whole historical bit that was woven in. I have to say I lost patience with that quite a lot. Mostly because I was way more into what was happening in the here and now rather than the meanderings about the past.
Even after it was revealed to be the book she was writing? It is used to break up the pace, I liked it, I didn't really like its conclusion though.
Well, that's what kept me from turning it off, to see the conclusion...and that sucked. I don't know, I could've done without that part of it being so much a part of it. Because the present day stuff was so intense I just wanted to skip past the historical parts more. Or maybe it was just that I wasn't in the mood for that kind of bouncing around abruptly in a plot. *shrug* I'm not the easiest to please when it comes to "films"...plebian as I am.
Quote from: Jenne on November 07, 2009, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 07, 2009, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 06, 2009, 11:56:46 PM
Fred may have meant the whole historical bit that was woven in. I have to say I lost patience with that quite a lot. Mostly because I was way more into what was happening in the here and now rather than the meanderings about the past.
Even after it was revealed to be the book she was writing? It is used to break up the pace, I liked it, I didn't really like its conclusion though.
Well, that's what kept me from turning it off, to see the conclusion...and that sucked. I don't know, I could've done without that part of it being so much a part of it. Because the present day stuff was so intense I just wanted to skip past the historical parts more. Or maybe it was just that I wasn't in the mood for that kind of bouncing around abruptly in a plot. *shrug* I'm not the easiest to please when it comes to "films"...plebian as I am.
No I'm as bad, I hate nearly every movie with slim few exceptions.
All movies throughout all of history are terrible, and the books are worse.
Quote from: Cainad on November 07, 2009, 02:33:25 AM
All movies throughout all of history are terrible, and the books are worse.
AMEN
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more.
They're all nothing but mere shadows and imperfect representations of the author's true ideas.
Which is why I limit myself to eating only their brains.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 07, 2009, 03:03:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on November 07, 2009, 02:33:25 AM
All movies throughout all of history are terrible, and the books are worse.
AMEN
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more.
They're all nothing but mere shadows and imperfect representations of the author's true ideas.
Which is why I limit myself to eating only their brains.
I used to do that, but lately I've decided that I'm not going to expose myself to any creative work whatsoever until I can finally invent a direct neural interface using stem cells, which I will use to merge with the creator's mind directly as if we were one being. Anything less causes the creator's idea(s) to become static and stagnant once they leave the creator's mind and enter mine.
Way ahead of you, old chap!
I travelled back in time and killed all the artist's mothers and grandfathers, uninvented paper and gave the first semi self conscious proto human a frontal lobotomy, in order to create the essence of Creative Potential in it's most pure, undiluted form.
... in fact I thought you'd have noticed by now? Look around you, man, are those people in possession of a proper functioning brain? Did you see the latest that Hollywood poomped out, were you able to detect any creativity?
No man, I did it, I finally did it, all the Art that could have ever existed is forever protected from the contamination and impurity of existence. And of course dirty fingerprints. Fuck, I hate dirty fingerprints nearly as much as material imperfection.
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 07, 2009, 07:41:19 PM
Way ahead of you, old chap!
I travelled back in time and killed all the artist's mothers and grandfathers, uninvented paper and gave the first semi self conscious proto human a frontal lobotomy, in order to create the essence of Creative Potential in it's most pure, undiluted form.
... in fact I thought you'd have noticed by now? Look around you, man, are those people in possession of a proper functioning brain? Did you see the latest that Hollywood poomped out, were you able to detect any creativity?
No man, I did it, I finally did it, all the Art that could have ever existed is forever protected from the contamination and impurity of existence. And of course dirty fingerprints. Fuck, I hate dirty fingerprints nearly as much as material imperfection.
No way! I would never have thought of that; what a brilliant solution!
I trust it's kept hermetically sealed in an underground Faraday cage at constant temperature and pressure, in low- to no-light conditions? I'd hate to know that some creativity might be unleashed that is less than a perfect, quintessential representation of the artist's ideas.
Did you know, I've heard that there are people out in the world who actually make it a priority to
enjoy the creative work of others, rather than criticizing the shortcomings of such work? Strange, but true!
The brilliance exibited by such people! Here I've mistakenly assumed each work unequal in quality or sincerity, cynically believing some artists even produce purposefully manipulative and pointless drivel in simple search of revenue, some puppet of schemers aiming to eradicate quality in favor of the quickness and amount of money sacrificed by their audiences. What foolishness.
Under this new guidance I instead intend to sit and drool in passive acceptance of whichever images flash before me, be they pointless raping of another man's work or snazzy reboots of the objects of my nostalgia!
Glorious day.
:lulz: :lulz:
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Quote from: Cainad on November 07, 2009, 09:26:27 PM
:lulz: :lulz:
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This post is obviously sarcastic.
I take back all my criticisms of this film. Has anyone here read the script Fox wanted to use for the film?
Oh, where to start. The modern day setting kinda misses the point, since its the possibility of all out planetary destruction that sets Ozymandias' plan into motion. To get around this,, Fox changed the entire ending, which involved...er...Ozy going back in time to kill Dr Manhatten. Or something.
Apparently Warner Bros wanted to tread a similar route, especially with the modern day setting, and Snyder told them if they did, he'd walk. Snyder also said he'd only be willing to use the Alan Moore approved script (the one written before Hollywood crushed his soul), though with some minor alterations.
I'm reading the graphic novel now and I've gotta say, I'm actually pretty impressed with how faithful the movie was to the original.
Why must they ruin perfectly good stories by putting them in the present time?!
For the same reason the Matrix changed the script so people were being used as batteries (which makes no sense at all) instead of as part of a neural net, and why the ending of I Am Legend was changed to completely miss the point of the novel.
Namely, viewers are morons. Or, at least, executives think viewers are morons.
Did you know they're making a movie based on 'Stairway to Heaven'?
It's starring Jack Black, because he new rock 'n' roll.
Seriously, it is about a guy who guy who goes to heaven, and find out that heaven is actually a mall.
Fucking sounds sweeeeett!!!
ETA: Listening to Led Zeppelin, and kinda drunk, probably best to ingore
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
For the same reason the Matrix changed the script so people were being used as batteries (which makes no sense at all) instead of as part of a neural net, and why the ending of I Am Legend was changed to completely miss the point of the novel.
Namely, viewers are morons. Or, at least, executives think viewers are morons.
What was the ending, and the point therein of the novel?
The "vampires" are actually intelligent beings capable of empathy, and the doctor who we thought was the hero (whom, as you may recall, was abducting and carrying out medical experiments on them) was the real monster.
Ooooh... I thought I saw a moment like that in the movie, when he caught the chick, and then later when the "vampire" guy tricked the doctor the same way he tricked them first.
I need to read the book, it seems.
Yeah, I hadn't read the book before seeing the film either, and I thought it was being set up to end the way it should have, for pretty much the same reasons. The ending, as it was shown, just didn't make sense.
I've been conditioned to understand endings that don't make sense, so I ended up thinking it was fine.
"Hey, my blood is gonna cure these people, you take these vials and hide in here, I'ma blow myself up to save you and also cuz I'm too emo to live anymore, if you really think there's a chance there's other people, you make a run for it. DER END"
i read the graphic novel before seeing the film. I was really happy they stayed so close to the novel and was OK with their reasons of changing the film ending from the book. I'm glad the director stuck to his guns on the rest of the film and wouldn't let corporate assholes at the studios ruin it.
they just released "the ultimate cut" (http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/images/watchmen-ultimate.jpg)
which i highly suggest getting if your a die hard fan of the novel. It adds in the black freighter directly into the film and is now over three hours long, but well worth it.
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2010, 03:15:06 PM
The "vampires" are actually intelligent beings capable of empathy, and the doctor who we thought was the hero (whom, as you may recall, was abducting and carrying out medical experiments on them) was the real monster.
Indeed, the title of the book makes a lot more sense that way: In the vampire nests across the city, they tell tales of a creature who goes out at daybreak and kills their kind with neither rhyme nor reason. He has become as much of a legend as the original vampires used to be.
Watchmen is still both the best graphic novel I've ever read and one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
You should watch Twilight some day.
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2010, 07:18:21 PM
You should watch Twilight some day.
OH GAWD!!! :x :x :horrormirth: :x :x
I found The Watchmen movie hilarious ... had to admit I liked the action scene with Rorschach (I can never spell that) when he was escaping Jail
Apart from that, it was soo crap I couldn't stop laughing. The lesbian chick had an awesome outfit to.. They might aswell of kept her alive
Thats my only judgement on the movie =/
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2010, 07:18:21 PM
You should watch Twilight some day.
yeah, but unless there's a really awesome graphic novel version, it will not yield such a striking dichotomy.
True. But it made me revise my standards of what I considered a bad film. Troll 2 is now on the cusp of watchability as a serious work, thanks to Twilight.
heh.
The friend I saw the Watchmen movie with said the sex scene ruined both sex and Hallelujah for him. So later in the week, when I was pretty sure he was about to get laid, I texted him the lyrics.
What really killed Watchmen for me was the lack of side character development. Without losing characters i actually cared about at the end the sacrifice had no feeling to it.
I've been meaning to watch the umpteen hour extended version and see if its better.
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
For the same reason the Matrix changed the script so people were being used as batteries (which makes no sense at all) instead of as part of a neural net, and why the ending of I Am Legend was changed to completely miss the point of the novel.
Namely, viewers are morons. Or, at least, executives think viewers are morons.
This. Hollywood cant be trusted to adapt ANYTHING.
Look at the new Star Trek movie, or Alice in Wonderland.
Don't worry, they're going ot make it up to us by turning "The Wizard of Oz" into the next Harry Potter-esque franchise.
:horrormirth:
Quote from: -Kel- on March 10, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
i read the graphic novel before seeing the film. I was really happy they stayed so close to the novel and was OK with their reasons of changing the film ending from the book.
I also absolutely positively LOVED the fact that they left out the utterly lame and redundant pirate story. Why pull your readers out of the flow of the story at the end of every chapter with a failed attempt at transparent metaphor?
They did an animated short for Tales from the Black Freighter.
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 12, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on March 10, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
i read the graphic novel before seeing the film. I was really happy they stayed so close to the novel and was OK with their reasons of changing the film ending from the book.
I also absolutely positively LOVED the fact that they left out the utterly lame and redundant pirate story. Why pull your readers out of the flow of the story at the end of every chapter with a failed attempt at transparent metaphor?
Because it built suspense for climax of the story. It was left out because it wouldn't work at all in a movie.
I've been thinking about the film again recently and why it bothered me so much, because I was never able to pin it down to any one thing that made it feel so sterile but I think I've found a huge contributing factor; In the comics there is a strong sense of the passage of time and the story being built upon. In the film its all rushed and just sort of plopped down on top of you in one go, it left me feeling really uninvolved with the characters.
For this reason I think it would have worked far better as a series
Yeah, a mini-series or something would've worked really well. Some things just can't be condensed into 150 minutes, no matter how hard you try.
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 12, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on March 10, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
i read the graphic novel before seeing the film. I was really happy they stayed so close to the novel and was OK with their reasons of changing the film ending from the book.
I also absolutely positively LOVED the fact that they left out the utterly lame and redundant pirate story. Why pull your readers out of the flow of the story at the end of every chapter with a failed attempt at transparent metaphor?
when i was reading, i did find myself skimming over parts of the black freighter. i haven't gotten a chance to watch the ultimate un-cut version, but i hope it is worked in well.
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 08:27:20 PM
Yeah, a mini-series or something would've worked really well. Some things just can't be condensed into 150 minutes, no matter how hard you try.
A montage?
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 08:27:20 PM
Yeah, a mini-series or something would've worked really well. Some things just can't be condensed into 150 minutes, no matter how hard you try.
Terry Gilliam tried to get them to let him make a 6 hour mini series of it, they turned him down. :argh!:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2010, 07:01:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 08:27:20 PM
Yeah, a mini-series or something would've worked really well. Some things just can't be condensed into 150 minutes, no matter how hard you try.
Terry Gilliam tried to get them to let him make a 6 hour mini series of it, they turned him down. :argh!:
All that I had ever heard of it was that Terry Gilliam and Alan Moore had communicated with one another about the idea of Gilliam adapting the work, and that it never happened. Now that an adaptation has happened, I feel that it could have been a lot worse, although Gilliam directing a miniseries would have been fucking awesome.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2010, 07:01:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 08:27:20 PM
Yeah, a mini-series or something would've worked really well. Some things just can't be condensed into 150 minutes, no matter how hard you try.
Terry Gilliam tried to get them to let him make a 6 hour mini series of it, they turned him down. :argh!:
Aronofsky said the same goddamn thing, both were far more competent directors then zack snider, why the studio went with him I'll never figure out.
Gilliam and a miniseries would've been perfect. Aronofsky did Pi, right? Or am I thinking of someone else?
I suspect Snyder was chosen because he had previously performed competently on Sin City and The 300, and so was seen as "that comic book director". That Watchmen is a very different story to either of those seems to have been overlooked.
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2010, 06:01:23 PM
Gilliam and a miniseries would've been perfect. Aronofsky did Pi, right? Or am I thinking of someone else?
I suspect Snyder was chosen because he had previously performed competently on Sin City and The 300, and so was seen as "that comic book director". That Watchmen is a very different story to either of those seems to have been overlooked.
Ah hold up, Robert Rodregiuz did Sin City not Snyder, he did however do 300, Sin city was enjoyable, 300 was incredibly poor.
So he was. Why did I associate Snyder with Sin City?
After reading the comics and seeing the movie a second time I do think that Snyder did actually make a pretty good movie, minus two things. The conversations between Rorschach and the psychiatrist should have been expanded a bit, and I do question his choice of music. Dylan worked in the opening credits (it's the opening credits so who cares), but the rest of the soundtrack was good tunes but was cheesy and distracting as hell. The most successful music in the movie is the ripped Philip Glass soundtrack. Orchestrated minimalism worked perfectly. So that begs the question. Why didn't he just spend the money and get Philip Glass to write the entire soundtrack? or fail that another classical composer. Just imagine that movie with a soundtrack penned by Micheal Nyman. It's instantly that much better.
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2010, 07:43:29 PM
So he was. Why did I associate Snyder with Sin City?
Frank Miller wrote Sin City and 300, maybe that's it? I think Miller was technically a co-director for Sin City (which made Robert Rodriguez resign from the director's guild, because two directors were against their codes). 300 was then billed as "FROM THE WRITER OF SIN CITY" to piggy back on that movie's relative success.
I thought Zack Snyder was fine for 300 because it was a visually driven graphic novel, with maybe 30 lines of dialogue. Watchmen looked good enough, possibly even too stylish, but it had very little else.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 14, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
After reading the comics and seeing the movie a second time I do think that Snyder did actually make a pretty good movie, minus two things. The conversations between Rorschach and the psychiatrist should have been expanded a bit, and I do question his choice of music. Dylan worked in the opening credits (it's the opening credits so who cares), but the rest of the soundtrack was good tunes but was cheesy and distracting as hell. The most successful music in the movie is the ripped Philip Glass soundtrack. Orchestrated minimalism worked perfectly. So that begs the question. Why didn't he just spend the money and get Philip Glass to write the entire soundtrack? or fail that another classical composer. Just imagine that movie with a soundtrack penned by Micheal Nyman. It's instantly that much better.
AGREED
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on March 14, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 14, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
After reading the comics and seeing the movie a second time I do think that Snyder did actually make a pretty good movie, minus two things. The conversations between Rorschach and the psychiatrist should have been expanded a bit, and I do question his choice of music. Dylan worked in the opening credits (it's the opening credits so who cares), but the rest of the soundtrack was good tunes but was cheesy and distracting as hell. The most successful music in the movie is the ripped Philip Glass soundtrack. Orchestrated minimalism worked perfectly. So that begs the question. Why didn't he just spend the money and get Philip Glass to write the entire soundtrack? or fail that another classical composer. Just imagine that movie with a soundtrack penned by Micheal Nyman. It's instantly that much better.
AGREED
Also;The music is (should be) as much a part of the setting as the scenery, the use of contemporary music in the soundtrack did not fit the setting.
Quote from: Z³ on March 15, 2010, 03:42:26 AM
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on March 14, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 14, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
After reading the comics and seeing the movie a second time I do think that Snyder did actually make a pretty good movie, minus two things. The conversations between Rorschach and the psychiatrist should have been expanded a bit, and I do question his choice of music. Dylan worked in the opening credits (it's the opening credits so who cares), but the rest of the soundtrack was good tunes but was cheesy and distracting as hell. The most successful music in the movie is the ripped Philip Glass soundtrack. Orchestrated minimalism worked perfectly. So that begs the question. Why didn't he just spend the money and get Philip Glass to write the entire soundtrack? or fail that another classical composer. Just imagine that movie with a soundtrack penned by Micheal Nyman. It's instantly that much better.
AGREED
Also;The music is (should be) as much a part of the setting as the scenery, the use of contemporary music in the soundtrack did not fit the setting.
Someone put it really well when they told me, this wasn't music to fit the generation, it was music from all those other movies about their generation. The the most obvious example being ride of the Valkyries for the Viet Nam scene.