http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/earthquake-survivors-get-solar-powered-bibles/story-e6frfku0-1225821184929
Good thing they're sending these instead of medical supplies or food rations, amirite?
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:joshua:
At least with manual bibles they could eat the paper, if they got really hungry.
Or toilet paper, or fuel for fire..
Shit. Solar powered bibles... I kinda want one.
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
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How I abhor christians.
Please don't lump all the Christians in with these idiots. It's the same logical fallacy that many Christians use when they say that atheists are unfeeling, baby-killing monsters.
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
maybe if they had a bible they wont be tempted by hell to go looting
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
I don't have much use for Christianity as an institution, but I don't hate Christians themselves any more than I hate any of the other filthy, stinking, self-polluting monkeys on this miserable mudball we call Earth.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
I don't have much use for Christianity as an institution, but I don't hate Christians themselves any more than I hate any of the other filthy, stinking, self-polluting monkeys on this miserable mudball we call Earth.
This!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
I don't have much use for Christianity as an institution, but I don't hate Christians themselves any more than I hate any of the other filthy, stinking, self-polluting monkeys on this miserable mudball we call Earth.
I can get behind that.
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO.
Care to explain how this falls in line with the concept of KYFMS?
It could be worse...they could be providing gun scopes with engraved Bible phrases on them to Haitians, and sending solar-powered Bibles to the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
QuoteAccording to their website, the Proclaimer is "self-powered and can play the Bible in the jungle, desert or ... even on the moon!"
:news:
CHRISTIAN GROUP PLANNING TO SEND HAITIAN REFUGEES TO THE MOON!
Think how please Pat Robertson may be about this. It'll be a chance for those devil worshippers to see the light and redeem their souls.
:|
Hey, something just occurred to me. What if this is just a huge, tasteless pun?
"See the light"?
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
Catholics tend to be one of the better denominations as far as actually providing food, medicine, clothing etc. to those in need. They have a terrible track record as far as encouraging impoverished people to breed like caddis flies, but they do at least have their heads on straight enough to know that a starving homeless person in rags needs food, shelter, and clothes before they need the scripture.
Quote from: Felix on January 20, 2010, 03:28:35 AM
Hey, something just occurred to me. What if this is just a huge, tasteless pun?
"See the light"?
:horrormirth:
Quote from: Fuquad on January 19, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO.
Care to explain how this falls in line with the concept of KYFMS?
There's a difference between keeping your mouth shut and being deceptive.
no comment
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 20, 2010, 03:32:29 AM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
Catholics tend to be one of the better denominations as far as actually providing food, medicine, clothing etc. to those in need. They have a terrible track record as far as encouraging impoverished people to breed like caddis flies, but they do at least have their heads on straight enough to know that a starving homeless person in rags needs food, shelter, and clothes before they need the scripture.
Which of course makes the organized child abuse, hatred of contraception and aid rendered to Nazi war criminals
perfectly all right.
Cain,
thinks people who think the Catholic Church is one of the betters one may be ignorant of recent history.
There's a deep disconnect between different parts of the Catholic church. Because actually leaving it just isn't done. Hell I know Catholics who want to shoot the Arch Bishop, and they *still* go to a Catholic mass at least a few times a year.
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2010, 08:50:38 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 20, 2010, 03:32:29 AM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
:horrormirth:
How I abhor christians.
All of them?
I suppose not all of them. Mostly Roman Catholics. My folks are RC's, and we get along pretty good. But on the other hand, I feel like alot of people that consider themselves RC these days are really Protestants or Agnostics, but because they were raised "Roman Catholic" they think that's what they are. Too much lying and hypocrosy for me. And it doesn't help that I just finished a West. Civ. class and history is a terrible character witness for christianity. Not to mention the whole thing's steeped in so much secrecy and bullshit. Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO. Really, though? Bibles for an earthquake? What a waste of resources. You don't see anyone else sending Holy books instead of, y'know, fresh water.
Dimo-
Admitedly, doesn't know a whole lot about it.
Catholics tend to be one of the better denominations as far as actually providing food, medicine, clothing etc. to those in need. They have a terrible track record as far as encouraging impoverished people to breed like caddis flies, but they do at least have their heads on straight enough to know that a starving homeless person in rags needs food, shelter, and clothes before they need the scripture.
Which of course makes the organized child abuse, hatred of contraception and aid rendered to Nazi war criminals perfectly all right.
Cain,
thinks people who think the Catholic Church is one of the betters one may be ignorant of recent history.
Thank you, Cain. It would have taken me four times the words to get that out, and it still would have been only a fraction as clear.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 20, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
There's a deep disconnect between different parts of the Catholic church. Because actually leaving it just isn't done. Hell I know Catholics who want to shoot the Arch Bishop, and they *still* go to a Catholic mass at least a few times a year.
My parents hate everything about the church and my mom wishes regularly that she hadn't gotten any of us baptized. I didn't have a choice when it came to my Confirmation, but my brother and sister did. :argh!:
-Suu
Had a cross-shaped zit plot on her forehead from the Holy Vaseline for weeks.
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 20, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
There's a deep disconnect between different parts of the Catholic church. Because actually leaving it just isn't done. Hell I know Catholics who want to shoot the Arch Bishop, and they *still* go to a Catholic mass at least a few times a year.
My parents hate everything about the church and my mom wishes regularly that she hadn't gotten any of us baptized. I didn't have a choice when it came to my Confirmation, but my brother and sister did. :argh!:
-Suu
Had a cross-shaped zit plot on her forehead from the Holy Vaseline for weeks.
I was Catholic, before I got better. I just left.
My parents changed their minds when I was in high school after my name had already been sent to the Vatican. So somewhere over there, is my name and the saint name that I picked "Felicity" in some sort of master record of every confirmed Catholic in the world. I think the Bishop may have implanted a microchip with the Holy Vaseline or something...and then when the time is right, all of us wayward Catholics will be under some sort of mind control and form up against the rest of the world.
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
My parents changed their minds when I was in high school after my name had already been sent to the Vatican. So somewhere over there, is my name and the saint name that I picked "Felicity" in some sort of master record of every confirmed Catholic in the world. I think the Bishop may have implanted a microchip with the Holy Vaseline or something...and then when the time is right, all of us wayward Catholics will be under some sort of mind control and form up against the rest of the world.
I, for one, welcome our overlord in the dress and funny hat.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
My parents changed their minds when I was in high school after my name had already been sent to the Vatican. So somewhere over there, is my name and the saint name that I picked "Felicity" in some sort of master record of every confirmed Catholic in the world. I think the Bishop may have implanted a microchip with the Holy Vaseline or something...and then when the time is right, all of us wayward Catholics will be under some sort of mind control and form up against the rest of the world.
I, for one, welcome our overlord in the dress and funny hat.
Because the whole outfit makes him an easier target???
Quote from: Khara on January 20, 2010, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
My parents changed their minds when I was in high school after my name had already been sent to the Vatican. So somewhere over there, is my name and the saint name that I picked "Felicity" in some sort of master record of every confirmed Catholic in the world. I think the Bishop may have implanted a microchip with the Holy Vaseline or something...and then when the time is right, all of us wayward Catholics will be under some sort of mind control and form up against the rest of the world.
I, for one, welcome our overlord in the dress and funny hat.
Because the whole outfit makes him an easier target???
No, because I hate people, and the concept of original sin is deserved by anyone dumb enough to believe in it.
Roger, you really shine in a thread like this :lulz:
I'm waiting for the Instructable that tells you how to turn the solar-powered Bible into something cool, like a perpetual invocation of Cthulhu, or an mp3 player that never runs out of power.
Looks like it has a hand-crank generator, too. Just think of the possibilities.
hxxp://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/proclaimer
Quote from: dimo on January 20, 2010, 06:02:47 AM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 19, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO.
Care to explain how this falls in line with the concept of KYFMS?
There's a difference between keeping your mouth shut and being deceptive.
So in a KYFMS situation if you were asked if you did something you'd admit it? If asked if you had any knowledge about the situation you would spill?
If the Catholic Church was being upfront about the horrible business they are involved with would it make it ok? One of my neighbors is upfront about his racism, am I being to hash in my avoidance of him?
Quote from: Fuquad on January 20, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
So in a KYFMS situation if you were asked if you did something you'd admit it?
Fuck no. Deny everything. Don't give the bastards an inch.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: Khara on January 20, 2010, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
My parents changed their minds when I was in high school after my name had already been sent to the Vatican. So somewhere over there, is my name and the saint name that I picked "Felicity" in some sort of master record of every confirmed Catholic in the world. I think the Bishop may have implanted a microchip with the Holy Vaseline or something...and then when the time is right, all of us wayward Catholics will be under some sort of mind control and form up against the rest of the world.
I, for one, welcome our overlord in the dress and funny hat.
Because the whole outfit makes him an easier target???
No, because I hate people, and the concept of original sin is deserved by anyone dumb enough to believe in it.
Original Sin was made up by Paul in his letters to the Romans as a way to sell Christianity. Jesus had nothing to do with it. Obviously it didn't work then because The Romans ended up killing him and St. Peter when they were in Rome. But Paul was a Roman Citizen so he had a merciful beheading at Nero's orders, Peter got the ass end of the stick and got crucified upside down.
Moral of the story is, don't go blabbing about some bullshit to sell your religion in a land that's bigger and badder than you, because they don't give a fuck.
-Suu
Yes Virginia, Bibilical History is actually quite fun!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 20, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
So in a KYFMS situation if you were asked if you did something you'd admit it?
Fuck no. Deny everything. Don't give the bastards an inch.
But, Roger, wouldn't that be practicing deception?
Quote from: Fuquad on January 20, 2010, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2010, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 20, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
So in a KYFMS situation if you were asked if you did something you'd admit it?
Fuck no. Deny everything. Don't give the bastards an inch.
But, Roger, wouldn't that be practicing deception?
Yes. Yes, it would, and I would do so cheerfully, and sleep like a baby.
Withholding information IS NOT LYING. I would keep my mouth shut. I would NOT make shit up. Maybe I should have been clearer. It's the LIES that put me off about Christianity... in general.
1. Sending religious books to diaster zones.
I believe that following the 2005 Tsunami, some less than bright individuals loyal to the 'Kabbalah Centre' sent copies of 'the Zohar'. All of it....in Hebrew. (It was either Madonna or Britney)
2. Getting unconsecrated.
IIRC - the great PDer Vincent Verthaine petitioned the Catholic Church to be 'delisted' and his request was granted. It would seem that it is possible to be given a certificate of heathenism.
I actually don't want to be delisted, just in case. Wouldn't it be hysterical if only confirmed Catholics go in the Rapture? I could act as a spy in heaven for Roger.
Its always good having the back up plans + someone should always be on the inside to sneak the rest in
... Suu have I told you I love you?
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
Original Sin was made up by Paul in his letters to the Romans as a way to sell Christianity. Jesus had nothing to do with it. Obviously it didn't work then because The Romans ended up killing him and St. Peter when they were in Rome. But Paul was a Roman Citizen so he had a merciful beheading at Nero's orders, Peter got the ass end of the stick and got crucified upside down.
He could have been crucified normally, he
asked to be nailed upside down.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 20, 2010, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
Original Sin was made up by Paul in his letters to the Romans as a way to sell Christianity. Jesus had nothing to do with it. Obviously it didn't work then because The Romans ended up killing him and St. Peter when they were in Rome. But Paul was a Roman Citizen so he had a merciful beheading at Nero's orders, Peter got the ass end of the stick and got crucified upside down.
He could have been crucified normally, he asked to be nailed upside down.
Of course. It's common knowledge that no one could ever be hung like Jesus.
Quote from: Nast on January 20, 2010, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 20, 2010, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
Original Sin was made up by Paul in his letters to the Romans as a way to sell Christianity. Jesus had nothing to do with it. Obviously it didn't work then because The Romans ended up killing him and St. Peter when they were in Rome. But Paul was a Roman Citizen so he had a merciful beheading at Nero's orders, Peter got the ass end of the stick and got crucified upside down.
He could have been crucified normally, he asked to be nailed upside down.
Of course. It's common knowledge that no one could ever be hung like Jesus.
:rimshot:
Quote from: dimo on January 20, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Withholding information IS NOT LYING. I would keep my mouth shut. I would NOT make shit up. Maybe I should have been clearer. It's the LIES that put me off about Christianity... in general.
Now you're no longer arguing for the claim that I first addressed. I guess that conversation is over.
Peter and Paul were the original corruptors of the church. Paul was also responsible for all the misogyny. He was a gnostic and a piece of shit and known to argue with Peter. He's believed to be from the house of Herod, so of course he'd be trying to fuck things up.
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 10:02:06 PM
Peter and Paul were the original corruptors of the church. Paul was also responsible for all the misogyny. He was a gnostic and a piece of shit and known to argue with Peter. He's believed to be from the house of Herod, so of course he'd be trying to fuck things up.
Agreed. Paul was a major douche.
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 09:48:48 PM
I actually don't want to be delisted, just in case. Wouldn't it be hysterical if only confirmed Catholics go in the Rapture? I could act as a spy in heaven for Roger.
I'd love to be de-listed. :fap:
I'm on my phone btw. Sorry if that was badly written.
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 10:03:44 PM
I'm on my phone btw. Sorry if that was badly written.
miscommunication? excommunication? what's in a name? :wink:
Quote from: Suu on January 20, 2010, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 20, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
There's a deep disconnect between different parts of the Catholic church. Because actually leaving it just isn't done. Hell I know Catholics who want to shoot the Arch Bishop, and they *still* go to a Catholic mass at least a few times a year.
My parents hate everything about the church and my mom wishes regularly that she hadn't gotten any of us baptized. I didn't have a choice when it came to my Confirmation, but my brother and sister did. :argh!:
-Suu
Had a cross-shaped zit plot on her forehead from the Holy Vaseline for weeks.
I stated that badly, people don't usually leave the church without leaving Christianity altogether. The only exception I ever met was one of the abuse victims (and me, but only if you stretch the word 'Christian' to the breaking point).
Quote from: Fuquad on January 20, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 20, 2010, 06:02:47 AM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 19, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: dimo on January 19, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
Anything that avoids being upfront should be avoided, IMO.
Care to explain how this falls in line with the concept of KYFMS?
There's a difference between keeping your mouth shut and being deceptive.
So in a KYFMS situation if you were asked if you did something you'd admit it? If asked if you had any knowledge about the situation you would spill?
If the Catholic Church was being upfront about the horrible business they are involved with would it make it ok? One of my neighbors is upfront about his racism, am I being to hash in my avoidance of him?
As far as KYFMS is concerned, it depends on who you ask.
As far as Catholicism goes, I am a devout Roman Catholic as far as the records are concerned.
StD,
was once an alms collector.