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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM

Title: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
A few years ago, chemists invented Marinol, the prescription version of pot. These synthetic pot pills supposedly worked just like regular weed, except that they take an hour (rather than minutes) to kick in. They're also super expensive, often $700 for 30 pills.

Some people in China and Korea apparently took another crack (no pun intended) at synthesizing THC. Their product is currently being sold in the US under the name K2. It's also known as Sunset Gold and Nirvana.

I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(drug)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22708093/detail.html


The current media reaction focuses on the lack of clinical data about the drug, but apparently, the results are already in. They use words like, "addictive and dangerous" and "looming menace". I'm pretty sure we'll see drugs like K2 and Salvia slowly be outlawed because they don't fit within the double-standard of acceptable drug use in the US. (ie, speed is bad for you, unless you have a prescription)

I wonder though, if the results come in clean, if there will still be a witch hunt. Ecstasy turned out to be relatively clean (at least, the E that was being sold in the mid 90s... all over the glove, E quality has gone down while prices rise), and in fact is quite useful in treating certain types of ailments, but it's still considered FECKING CRIMINAL by the law.


This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/expert_advice/article6989754.ece), something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.



have you guys heard anything about either of these?
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

Well, thank goodness for those states.  We can't have people running around all unregulated, you know.  They know what's good for you, Cram, and they'll keep you safe from this shit if it kills you.  After all, a ruined life due to draconian drug laws is a small price to pay for avoiding the hideous dangers of drugs, right?

Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/expert_advice/article6989754.ece), something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.

:lulz:

Now there's a kid who is serious about having a good time.

Not sure what that has to do with E, though.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
I BE ROLLIN' ON MUSTACHE.


TRIPPIEST TRIP, HIGHEST HIGH.  DON'T NEED NO PASSPORT, JUST GET YOURSELF SOME PRIMO MUSTACHE.

YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID.


LMNO
-MUSTACHE PUSHER.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
I BE ROLLIN' ON MUSTACHE.


TRIPPIEST TRIP, HIGHEST HIGH.  DON'T NEED NO PASSPORT, JUST GET YOURSELF SOME PRIMO MUSTACHE.

YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID.


LMNO
-MUSTACHE PUSHER.

This is your face.   :)

This is your face on 'stache.  :mullet:

Don't do 'stache, kids.  Not even once.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
NAW, MAN.  YOU GOTTA TRY THE 'STACHE, IT'LL SET YOU MIND ON FIRE.


TELL YOU WHAT.  FIRST 'STACHE IS FREE.


GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
NAW, MAN.  YOU GOTTA TRY THE 'STACHE, IT'LL SET YOU MIND ON FIRE.


TELL YOU WHAT.  FIRST 'STACHE IS FREE.


GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.

I feel an overwhelming urge to revisit the Montana Meth shoops.

You have been warned.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:20:27 PM
WHATEVER, MAN.

WHEN YOU'RE ON THE 'STACHE, NOTHING MATTERS EXCEPT TO GET MORE 'STACHE.


YOU GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


YOU GOTTA.



GOTTA.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:22:44 PM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/jeep1161.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 02, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
another source on mephedrone/meow meow (http://www.kfx.org.uk/mephedrone%20briefing.pdf).
QuoteWhat does it feel like?
Everyone's subjective opinions are different but the overall impression is that MMCAT is
like a cocaine version of MDMA (Ecstasy). User reports indicate some of the same
"loved-up" feeling of MDMA – but not to the same extent, with the euphoria, reward
and ego of cocaine – but again not to the same extent. Alongside all this, some
significant stimulant effects including increased energy, restlessness, increased heart-rate
and jaw-clenching.
Some people feel increased libido while using but others report reduced erectile
function.

Sounds like scrotum boy thought it was a good idea to use about 20 times the recommended dose and/or combine with other stuff.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: Regret on March 02, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
another source on mephedrone/meow meow (http://www.kfx.org.uk/mephedrone%20briefing.pdf).
QuoteWhat does it feel like?
Everyone's subjective opinions are different but the overall impression is that MMCAT is
like a cocaine version of MDMA (Ecstasy). User reports indicate some of the same
"loved-up" feeling of MDMA – but not to the same extent, with the euphoria, reward
and ego of cocaine – but again not to the same extent. Alongside all this, some
significant stimulant effects including increased energy, restlessness, increased heart-rate
and jaw-clenching.
Some people feel increased libido while using but others report reduced erectile
function.

Sounds like scrotum boy thought it was a good idea to use about 20 times the recommended dose and/or combine with other stuff.

"Too much is always better than not enough."
- Some old hipster.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Nast on March 02, 2010, 08:35:01 PM
SCROTUM?

DAMN NEAR RECTUM.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Richter on March 02, 2010, 08:38:32 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
A few years ago, chemists invented Marinol, the prescription version of pot. These synthetic pot pills supposedly worked just like regular weed, except that they take an hour (rather than minutes) to kick in. They're also super expensive, often $700 for 30 pills.

Some people in China and Korea apparently took another crack (no pun intended) at synthesizing THC. Their product is currently being sold in the US under the name K2. It's also known as Sunset Gold and Nirvana.

I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(drug)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22708093/detail.html


The current media reaction focuses on the lack of clinical data about the drug, but apparently, the results are already in. They use words like, "addictive and dangerous" and "looming menace". I'm pretty sure we'll see drugs like K2 and Salvia slowly be outlawed because they don't fit within the double-standard of acceptable drug use in the US. (ie, speed is bad for you, unless you have a prescription)

I wonder though, if the results come in clean, if there will still be a witch hunt. Ecstasy turned out to be relatively clean (at least, the E that was being sold in the mid 90s... all over the glove, E quality has gone down while prices rise), and in fact is quite useful in treating certain types of ailments, but it's still considered FECKING CRIMINAL by the law.


This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/expert_advice/article6989754.ece), something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.



have you guys heard anything about either of these?

I've heard of the synthetic, "invisible to test" weed - alikes.  I know one old stoner dude who gets them from a local head shop, where they charge $30 for a golf ball sized jar of the stuff.  He testifies it's the same kind of high.


Unrestricted recreational folicle growth, however,  can damage your chromosomes, scare women, and may send errant hairs into your brain, making you think you're having fun while the devil stache controls your actions.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:40:18 PM
SAYS THE GUY WITH THE 'STACHE.


ADMIT IT, YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP ALL THE 'STACHE FOR YOURSELF.

'CUZ THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD 'STACHE.

NUTHIN.

GOTTA GET MORE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 02, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
The article on Meow Meow seems like it's BS, or at least not well-researched. It calls Salvia "herbal ecstasy". Isn't salvia divinorum a potent hallucinogen with a fundamentally different affect than ecstasy?
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Dimocritus on March 02, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Damn, I'm not sure why, but after reading this, I really feel like getting a stash of 'stache...
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on March 02, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
The article on Meow Meow seems like it's BS, or at least not well-researched. It calls Salvia "herbal ecstasy". Isn't salvia divinorum a potent hallucinogen with a fundamentally different affect than ecstasy?

You seem insufficiently concerned about this scourge, citizen.

Are you by chance one of them long-haired hippie type pinkos?
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: DIMOVOLCANO on March 02, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Damn, I'm not sure why, but after reading this, I really feel like getting a stash of 'stache...

DROP THE BISCUIT!
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 02, 2010, 08:46:31 PM
i gotta admit that i've been jonesing for the handlebar since i quit....
wife would have an intervention if she caught me doing it again though... :cry:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:48:12 PM
JUST A PENCIL THIN.  THE "JOHN WATERS SPECIAL".


EVEN A BIT OF STUBBLE WILL GET YOU ON YOUR WAY.


C'MON.  YOU KNOW HOW GOOD IT IS.


GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.

MORE 'STACHE.

MORE.















GOTTA.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: The Wizard on March 02, 2010, 08:49:34 PM
I'm starting slow with the stubble. But soon I'll be on the stache.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
GOTTA.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Richter on March 02, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
Damnit, the OP here was interesting. 

Spagged up by the fucking 'stachers
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on March 02, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
Damnit, the OP here was interesting. 

Spagged up by the fucking 'stachers

It's a sickness.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Nast on March 02, 2010, 08:57:30 PM
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN:
(http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/egg.jpg)

THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON 'STACHE:
(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/InkPudding/eGG.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: The Wizard on March 02, 2010, 09:07:42 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 02, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on March 02, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
The article on Meow Meow seems like it's BS, or at least not well-researched. It calls Salvia "herbal ecstasy". Isn't salvia divinorum a potent hallucinogen with a fundamentally different affect than ecstasy?
It's mainstream news, ofcourse its not researched.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 02, 2010, 09:33:41 PM
Quote from: Regret on March 02, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on March 02, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
The article on Meow Meow seems like it's BS, or at least not well-researched. It calls Salvia "herbal ecstasy". Isn't salvia divinorum a potent hallucinogen with a fundamentally different affect than ecstasy?
It's mainstream news, ofcourse its not researched.

Good point. I should have probably caught on after the sixth "first bionic hand to be controlled by nerves".
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Telarus on March 02, 2010, 10:06:14 PM
Judging from the pic, I'm totally with Roger on the 'Stache issue. Synthetic is superior.



I can put that shit down when I want to.




:lulz:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Captain Utopia on March 03, 2010, 12:04:05 AM
I found this... a review of sorts:

  http://www.peepsplace.com/showthread.php?t=255108

...I might trek up to Roach'o'Rama and check it out.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on March 03, 2010, 12:11:23 AM
Quote from: Nast on March 02, 2010, 08:35:01 PM
SCROTUM?

DAMN NEAR RECTUM.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: rong on March 03, 2010, 12:19:48 AM
i heard that 'stache leads to other things, like BEARD
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Dr. Paes on March 03, 2010, 01:11:17 AM
And BEARD leads to violence (http://"http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24333.0")
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2010, 01:29:42 AM
Quote from: Paesior on March 03, 2010, 01:11:17 AM
And BEARD leads to violence (http://"http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24333.0")

I think this is the link you meant to post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hi6yfgOclw
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 02:27:13 AM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/lmno2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Dr. Paes on March 03, 2010, 02:33:23 AM
 :spit:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 03, 2010, 02:34:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 02:27:13 AM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/lmno2.jpg)
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Richter on March 03, 2010, 03:17:51 AM
 :mittens:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Richter on March 03, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/dickthecat/stache1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 03:37:57 AM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/stache2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: E.O.T. on March 03, 2010, 03:44:53 AM
Quote from: Telarus on March 02, 2010, 10:06:14 PM
Judging from the pic, I'm totally with Roger on the 'Stache issue. Synthetic is superior.



I can put that shit down when I want to.




:lulz:

YOUR SYNTHETIC STACHE

          probably has tits AND a dick

AINT

          nothin like the real thing. baby
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 03:46:18 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on March 03, 2010, 03:44:53 AM
Quote from: Telarus on March 02, 2010, 10:06:14 PM
Judging from the pic, I'm totally with Roger on the 'Stache issue. Synthetic is superior.



I can put that shit down when I want to.




:lulz:

YOUR SYNTHETIC STACHE

          probably has tits AND a dick

AINT

          nothin like the real thing. baby

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Richter on March 03, 2010, 03:46:53 AM
 :argh!:

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!!

(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/dickthecat/stache2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 03:47:29 AM
 :lulz:

Nice.  Now you've dragged Nurse Mayhem into this.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on March 03, 2010, 04:51:02 AM
 :lulz:

:mittens:

This thread is great!!
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: LMNO on March 03, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
ALL THIS 'STACHE


MAKES ME WANT

MORE 'STACHE.


GOTTA GET MORE 'STACHE.

GOTTA.


GOTTA GET.


MORE.

'STACHE.
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: BabylonHoruv on March 03, 2010, 10:42:29 PM
You know the problem with Stache?  It only works for men.  Now I'm capable of growing one, a really ugly one, but still, I prefer an equal opportunity high, I go with shaving.  Anyone can do it, softcore shavers shave their face if they're male, or their legs and armpits if female, but from there it can expand, there's always the top of the head, there's the genitals, for those of us with naturally fuzzy bodies there are all sorts of things which can be shaved. 
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2010, 11:25:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2010, 02:27:13 AM
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/lmno2.jpg)

Oh, this is genius!  :lulz:
Title: Re: New Designer Drugs
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2010, 11:27:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on March 03, 2010, 10:42:29 PM
You know the problem with Stache?  It only works for men.  Now I'm capable of growing one, a really ugly one, but still, I prefer an equal opportunity high, I go with shaving.  Anyone can do it, softcore shavers shave their face if they're male, or their legs and armpits if female, but from there it can expand, there's always the top of the head, there's the genitals, for those of us with naturally fuzzy bodies there are all sorts of things which can be shaved. 

I'm a girl, and I have to say 'stache gets me really fucking high

but I do require a male dealer.