20 years ago, I asked my mom to see the census sheet because we were learning about it in school, and I had to do a report on it. My mom had already sent it in and I got an F.
10 years ago, I wouldn't let her live it down, and demanded to see the census form. She already sent it in.
Yesterday, my mom calls me to tell me that she got in the census form, and that I don't count anymore, I'm getting my own damn form, and now 20 years of anticipation will be quelled.
Today, I get my form, I'm all fucking excited, I'm thinking this will be the greatest thing since sliced bread because I can finally see and hold the US Census form in my damn hands for the first time since I needed to write that fucking report in 3rd grade. I open it up, it's half in Spanish, half blue, half green, and it's more boring than a 9x12" envelope should contain.
:kingmeh:
I think I just had the biggest nerdy loser moment of my life.
...Though I'm really tempted to write in "Daytona 500" under race, even though it will probably land me in jail.
Also, I get to legally troll the government. Since my legal last name is Spanish, but I am not Latino, Hispanic, or Spanish in origin. Or at least, what they consider to be Latino. :argh!:
-Suu
The Latin language was born on the Italian peninsula, but homegirl here is still white as a fucking slice of Wonderbread.
Quote from: Suu on March 19, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
...Though I'm really tempted to write in "Daytona 500" under race, even though it will probably land me in jail.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on March 19, 2010, 03:59:30 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 19, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
...Though I'm really tempted to write in "Daytona 500" under race, even though it will probably land me in jail.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously, it's tampering with federal property. And unlike putting Where's George? on a dollar bill, this shit is attached to my address. There is no way to fake anything without being caught.
Quote from: US census info form D-16(L)Federal law protects your privacy and keeps your answers confidential (Title 13, United States Code, Sections 9 and 214). The answers you give on the census form cannot be obtained by law enforcement or tax collection agencies. Your answers cannot be used in court. They cannot be obtained with a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
Emphasis mine.
So go right ahead.
That makes me want to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
DOITFAGGOT!!
Quote from: Suu on March 19, 2010, 04:11:27 AM
That makes me want to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
GODDAMMIT! I
just got that out of my head :argh!:
Check out the Colbert Show for the 17th. Also Snoop Dog was on the Daily Show last night.
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not? But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit.
"So this So - called 'Government' sends me a letter. Says they need to know how amny people live in my household.
I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!
SCREW YOU MISTER GOVERNMENT MAN!
YOU CAN'T COUNT ME!
I AIN'T A PART OF YOUR SYSTEM!"
LMNO, did you also count the nazis in your fridge?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 19, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not? But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit.
I think April 1st is the day they want it counted, so if the little guy is around by then count it and if not don't.
Quote from: Richter on March 22, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
"So this So - called 'Government' sends me a letter. Says they need to know how amny people live in my household.
I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!
SCREW YOU MISTER GOVERNMENT MAN!
YOU CAN'T COUNT ME!
I AIN'T A PART OF YOUR SYSTEM!"
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
...it WAS rather a let-down, I have to say. Very short. I've seen less prestigious surveys so much more impressive...
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on March 19, 2010, 03:59:30 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 19, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
...Though I'm really tempted to write in "Daytona 500" under race, even though it will probably land me in jail.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I would SO do that!! :lulz:
Quote from: ThatGreenGentleman on March 25, 2010, 01:28:28 AM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on March 19, 2010, 03:59:30 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 19, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
...Though I'm really tempted to write in "Daytona 500" under race, even though it will probably land me in jail.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I would SO do that!! :lulz:
That's why you don't get to fill it out. You are an evil child, and cannot be trusted with this sort of thing.
Quote from: Richter on March 22, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
"So this So - called 'Government' sends me a letter. Says they need to know how amny people live in my household.
I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!
SCREW YOU MISTER GOVERNMENT MAN!
YOU CAN'T COUNT ME!
I AIN'T A PART OF YOUR SYSTEM!"
:potd:
I HAD
a disturbing thought today, while at Autentica, doing shots of 'El Presidente' with Pedro and Sergio - whether they're legal or no, we're simply admitting more and more Christians into the country. This may be something to consider.
I like how they sent out a letter to let me know the Census was coming.
Sent me the Census.
And then sent me a postcard reminding me and/or thanking me for filling out my Census.
So obviously I'm a dumbfuck and they are rolling in money they can just send lots of shit in the mail.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 29, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
I like how they sent out a letter to let me know the Census was coming.
Sent me the Census.
And then sent me a postcard reminding me and/or thanking me for filling out my Census.
So obviously I'm a dumbfuck and they are rolling in money they can just send lots of shit in the mail.
NO
YOU are rolling in such tons of money you can just send a bunch of shit through the mail
whut
deep
dang
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 29, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
I like how they sent out a letter to let me know the Census was coming.
Sent me the Census.
And then sent me a postcard reminding me and/or thanking me for filling out my Census.
So obviously I'm a dumbfuck and they are rolling in money they can just send lots of shit in the mail.
Yours was a thank you? Mine was a "get yer Census in the mail NOW because IT'S THE LAW!"
Made me wanna smack a bitch.
Quote from: E.O.T. on March 29, 2010, 12:38:51 AM
I HAD
a disturbing thought today, while at Autentica, doing shots of 'El Presidente' with Pedro and Sergio - whether they're legal or no, we're simply admitting more and more Christians into the country. This may be something to consider.
:tinfoilhat:
Quote from: Jenne on March 29, 2010, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 29, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
I like how they sent out a letter to let me know the Census was coming.
Sent me the Census.
And then sent me a postcard reminding me and/or thanking me for filling out my Census.
So obviously I'm a dumbfuck and they are rolling in money they can just send lots of shit in the mail.
Yours was a thank you? Mine was a "get yer Census in the mail NOW because IT'S THE LAW!"
Made me wanna smack a bitch.
Well it was mostly the latter, but there was a line that said something like, "thank you if you already sent it in, but you are still a fucking douchebag!" Or something like that.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 30, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
Quote from: Jenne on March 29, 2010, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 29, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
I like how they sent out a letter to let me know the Census was coming.
Sent me the Census.
And then sent me a postcard reminding me and/or thanking me for filling out my Census.
So obviously I'm a dumbfuck and they are rolling in money they can just send lots of shit in the mail.
Yours was a thank you? Mine was a "get yer Census in the mail NOW because IT'S THE LAW!"
Made me wanna smack a bitch.
Well it was mostly the latter, but there was a line that said something like, "thank you if you already sent it in, but you are still a fucking douchebag!" Or something like that.
:lol: Someone ITT is NOT getting any sleep...
I missed ya, RWHN.
Also, fuck those Census guys, in their ears.
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
that's too long!
genealogists, UNITE!
waiting for 70 years is like russian roulette, what with their reputation for setting the shit on fire...
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
Old news. But by that point so do copyrights, so whatever.
i got them when they came to my door and i answered all their questions while playing God of War III during the part with Aphrodite. :evil:
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Holy shit! You mean in 70 years, people will know I'm a white male who used to live in Boston?
:omg:
:kingmeh::1fap:
Quote from: LMNO on May 25, 2010, 01:01:41 PM
Holy shit! You mean in 70 years, people will know I'm a white male who used to live in Boston?
yeah.
we should have totally moved forward from such a rudimentary Census.
i vote that there should be a field at the end called 'Tweet the Future ™' where you can put up to 140 chars of whatever drivel you want on it.
(it would be called that so that twitter could sponsor the effort in order to defray the cost. also, to make us look further like idiots to descendants 70 years from now.)
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
Write a letter.
If it wasn't for the address listing, I wouldn't have been able to find my grandmother in the 1930 census since they misspelled her name. I was then able to trace it back to when her parents got off the boat. Thanks to the census listings in 2 countries, I traced my grandfather's line back to England in the 1200s. And I still had to PAY for it on Ancestry.com
I mean, you have to be a HARDCORE stalker or more simply, a determined geneaologist to really want to go through the records to find who you want to. And 72 years later, who the fuck will care? What you're doing is exhibiting the embedded fear that people are getting now through all the privacy and terrorism bullshit. Knock it off. I'd be more worried about something you copyrighted being ripped off 72 years after your death than the odds of someone stalking your grandchildren through the 2010 Census.
Quote from: Suu on May 25, 2010, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
Write a letter.
If it wasn't for the address listing, I wouldn't have been able to find my grandmother in the 1930 census since they misspelled her name. I was then able to trace it back to when her parents got off the boat. Thanks to the census listings in 2 countries, I traced my grandfather's line back to England in the 1200s. And I still had to PAY for it on Ancestry.com
I mean, you have to be a HARDCORE stalker or more simply, a determined geneaologist to really want to go through the records to find who you want to. And 72 years later, who the fuck will care? What you're doing is exhibiting the embedded fear that people are getting now through all the privacy and terrorism bullshit. Knock it off. I'd be more worried about something you copyrighted being ripped off 72 years after your death than the odds of someone stalking your grandchildren through the 2010 Census.
Bleh-I disagree and I will not knock it off here on the forums but I will continue to call bullshit on the census IRL.
Write a letter. Let them know that you think their rules should change for the first time since the 1800s.
Quote from: Suu on May 25, 2010, 02:33:13 PM
Write a letter. Let them know that you think their rules should change for the first time since the 1800s.
but make sure not to put a return address on it.
or
they'll know!
As a matter of fact, stop putting a return address on mail AT ALL. I mean, it's just the government keeping track of you anyway, right? Regardless of if your mail needs to be returned. Fight the power, man!
What is the population of the US now anyway? I didn't return the census so they came to my door to ask me the questions. Actually they did our entire neighborhood because the government had the addresses all wrong. I told them I was Cherokee and Mrs. Hawk was Blackfeet. Then there was my last name change that wasn't discussed at all. So in 72 years if anybody cares enough they can go figure that shit out.
Yeah, the main purpose of the Census is to count everyone, get a snapshot of the demographics in your neighborhood, and that's about it. You can waive any question you want as well.
Quote from: Suu on May 25, 2010, 03:43:15 PM
As a matter of fact, stop putting a return address on mail AT ALL. I mean, it's just the government keeping track of you anyway, right? Regardless of if your mail needs to be returned. Fight the power, man!
better yet, put whatever you want on the destination address, put the destination on the return address, and leave off the stamp.
stick it to
the man!
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
:lulz:
Personally, I think that census workers should be flown to people's homes in black helicopters. I don't care that it would be an exorbitant waste of money. The lulz, think of the lulz.
Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
:lulz:
Personally, I think that census workers should be flown to people's homes in black helicopters. I don't care that it would be an exorbitant waste of money. The lulz, think of the lulz.
you could achieve a similar effect if they just waited until you were on the phone somebody and butted in to question you.
much cheaper.
Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.
The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.
Ok-that is all.
72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.
Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.
:lulz:
Personally, I think that census workers should be flown to people's homes in black helicopters. I don't care that it would be an exorbitant waste of money. The lulz, think of the lulz.
This would make my job so much easier.
My dad has had census information used against him. FYI, in case anyone still thinks it doesn't matter that the information is made public after 72 years.
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?
In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.
ah, i see. that does suck.
as an amateur genealogist, i can attest to the incompleteness and inaccuracies in the census record, though, so hopefully these jerks didn't do much to convince people?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 19, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not? But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit.
It does matter. The census determines how many representatives and votes for president a state gets (along with other stuff like allocating emergency services) sure, one baby one way or the other doesn't make a lot of difference, just like one vote one way or the other doesn't make much difference, but that doesn't mean we don't vote.
That's why I kinda agonized about filling it out. I hate Ohio, I don't really want ohio to have my presence and that of my family counted toward representation, and I am hoping to move to California soon. I eventually dithered till a worker showed up and then gave him accurate answers though.
There was no real harm done (my dad does have his birth certificate, so his lineage is easily provable), but I'd be happier if the census data was kept private for 100 years.
Was gonna ask someone a question, and then realized I would only get more upset at the answer than is at all necessary (probably). So I'm now not reading this thread or anything inside it.
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:41:19 AM
ah, i see. that does suck.
as an amateur genealogist, i can attest to the incompleteness and inaccuracies in the census record, though, so hopefully these jerks didn't do much to convince people?
Handwritten records, ftw. They spelled my grandmother's maiden name 4 different ways.
won't all this geneology info be all littered over whatever is left of the Internet in 72 years anyway?
not saying the census is a bad idea or not or whether it should be kept how long or short.
but seeing as we smear trails of info on our personal lives everywhere, won't it make the jobs for geneologists of the future a lot easier? compared to 70 years ago, that is.
also Iptuous's "tweet the future" idea is brilliant and should be implemented!
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 26, 2010, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?
In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.
who is the "they" in this story?
THE INTERGENERATIONAL GENEOLOGIST CONSPIRACY :argh!:
Quote from: Cramulus on May 26, 2010, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 26, 2010, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?
In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.
who is the "they" in this story?
I don't actually know. Whoever the people are who were in charge of the smear campaign.
I wonder how "they" got access to those data.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 26, 2010, 05:36:40 PM
I wonder how "they" got access to those data.
It's over 72 years old, therefore public.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2010, 02:49:31 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 19, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not? But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit.
It does matter. The census determines how many representatives and votes for president a state gets (along with other stuff like allocating emergency services) sure, one baby one way or the other doesn't make a lot of difference, just like one vote one way or the other doesn't make much difference, but that doesn't mean we don't vote.
That's why I kinda agonized about filling it out. I hate Ohio, I don't really want ohio to have my presence and that of my family counted toward representation, and I am hoping to move to California soon. I eventually dithered till a worker showed up and then gave him accurate answers though.
I live in fucking Maine. We have exactly zero influence on anything anywhere. It's why they send all of the planes that might have terrorists on board here. Maine could blow up tomorrow and no one would give a shit, except for Steven King fanbois.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 26, 2010, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 26, 2010, 05:36:40 PM
I wonder how "they" got access to those data.
It's over 72 years old, therefore public.
To clarify; my dad is really old. People in my family live a long time, which is why I think that only keeping census data private for 72 years is entirely inadequate.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 26, 2010, 07:10:18 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2010, 02:49:31 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 19, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not? But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit.
It does matter. The census determines how many representatives and votes for president a state gets (along with other stuff like allocating emergency services) sure, one baby one way or the other doesn't make a lot of difference, just like one vote one way or the other doesn't make much difference, but that doesn't mean we don't vote.
That's why I kinda agonized about filling it out. I hate Ohio, I don't really want ohio to have my presence and that of my family counted toward representation, and I am hoping to move to California soon. I eventually dithered till a worker showed up and then gave him accurate answers though.
I live in fucking Maine. We have exactly zero influence on anything anywhere. It's why they send all of the planes that might have terrorists on board here. Maine could blow up tomorrow and no one would give a shit, except for Steven King fanbois.
I dunno, you guys are a swing state. You didn't get as much attention as Ohio in the last presidential election, but you certainly got some.