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US CENSUS!

Started by Suu, March 19, 2010, 03:53:03 AM

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Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.

The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.

Ok-that is all.

72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.

Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.

:lulz:
Personally, I think that census workers should be flown to people's homes in black helicopters. I don't care that it would be an exorbitant waste of money. The lulz, think of the lulz.

you could achieve a similar effect if they just waited until you were on the phone somebody and butted in to question you.
much cheaper.

Freeky

Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on May 25, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
There was another census thread around but I'm too lazy to continue to look for it so I'm posting this here just for shits and grins.

The census is not kept private. All info becomes public after 70 years.

Ok-that is all.

72. At that point, the information is pretty much useless (unless you're geneaology diving), because who's life stays exactly the same for 72 years? For fuck's sake, shut the fuck up, and cooperate you (generalized, not YOU specifically) iggerant fucktards. Goddammit.

Thing is, in 72 years my grandchildren will have their parent's place of where they grew up be public.
It's a matter of principle. The census folks keep saying everything is kept private. Well-bullshit it is not.

:lulz:
Personally, I think that census workers should be flown to people's homes in black helicopters. I don't care that it would be an exorbitant waste of money. The lulz, think of the lulz.

This would make my job so much easier.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

My dad has had census information used against him. FYI, in case anyone still thinks it doesn't matter that the information is made public after 72 years.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Elder Iptuous

can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?


In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Elder Iptuous

ah, i see.  that does suck.
as an amateur genealogist, i can attest to the incompleteness and inaccuracies in the census record, though, so hopefully these jerks didn't do much to convince people?

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 19, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
My biggest dilemma was, do I count the little guy yet or not?  But then I realized it didn't fucking matter and that I was worrying about bullshit. 

It does matter.  The census determines how many representatives and votes for president a state gets (along with other stuff like allocating emergency services)  sure, one baby one way or the other doesn't make a lot of difference, just like one vote one way or the other doesn't make much difference, but that doesn't mean we don't vote.

That's why I kinda agonized about filling it out. I hate Ohio, I don't really want ohio to have my presence and that of my family counted toward representation, and I am hoping to move to California soon.  I eventually dithered till a worker showed up and then gave him accurate answers though.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

There was no real harm done (my dad does have his birth certificate, so his lineage is easily provable), but I'd be happier if the census data was kept private for 100 years.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky

Was gonna ask someone a question, and then realized I would only get more upset at the answer than is at all necessary (probably). So I'm now not reading this thread or anything inside it.

Suu

Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:41:19 AM
ah, i see.  that does suck.
as an amateur genealogist, i can attest to the incompleteness and inaccuracies in the census record, though, so hopefully these jerks didn't do much to convince people?


Handwritten records, ftw. They spelled my grandmother's maiden name 4 different ways.
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Triple Zero

won't all this geneology info be all littered over whatever is left of the Internet in 72 years anyway?

not saying the census is a bad idea or not or whether it should be kept how long or short.

but seeing as we smear trails of info on our personal lives everywhere, won't it make the jobs for geneologists of the future a lot easier? compared to 70 years ago, that is.

also Iptuous's "tweet the future" idea is brilliant and should be implemented!
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Cramulus

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 26, 2010, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?


In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.

who is the "they" in this story?

Triple Zero

THE INTERGENERATIONAL GENEOLOGIST CONSPIRACY :argh!:
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cramulus on May 26, 2010, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 26, 2010, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 26, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
can you elaborate on what we might be wary of, Nigel?


In this case, it's a little unclear what they were trying to accomplish other than a general smear campaign; they used the absence of my grandfather's name on the census form to try to cast doubt on my father's ancestry. Relatively harmless, but upsetting for a lot of people. My brother was especially upset by it.

who is the "they" in this story?

I don't actually know. Whoever the people are who were in charge of the smear campaign.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cramulus

I wonder how "they" got access to those data.