I am back, but POEE is as the title says, deader than a dead dick. There's probably no need for a Discordian forum other than PD these days. PD's gravity is irresistable and insatiable, like a black hole of DOOM. So what the fuck are we going to do with POEE? 'Cause I have no idea.
:( I feel fucking guilty for not visiting...sorry, Syn.
General Discordian Archive, Wiki etc?
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 06:55:17 PM
I am back, but POEE is as the title says, deader than a dead dick. There's probably no need for a Discordian forum other than PD these days. PD's gravity is irresistable and insatiable, like a black hole of DOOM. So what the fuck are we going to do with POEE? 'Cause I have no idea.
It makes a nice archive, and I enjoy the first page.
SYN: Head Librarian of Discordianism. :lulz:
By the way, if you plan to shut it down, PLEASE give me some advance notice. That's the only existing copy of some of the old stuff.
Also, it would make a good project site. We have some interesting projects going on, and though EB&G has loaned us some space, we could always use more.
I liked POEE, but it was a clunky forum for my work habits.
I always direct people over there for downloads, pamphlets, documents, etc.
:lulz:
No feeling guilty! This is not a sympathy dig. There just wasn't the full on demand for another forum. Fact. A fact which I, in my eagerness, ignored.
No shutses! NEVAR! Just apathy and discorda-block, tbh. I keep wanting to post something angry about the state of things, but I just don't give a fuck that we bellowing apes are tearing each other new and larger arseholes every day. Today, it's just FUNNAY!
Archive is great! That's how it started anyways. I need to get collecting stuff as I haven't upped anything good for over a year.
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 07:04:25 PM
:lulz:
No feeling guilty! This is not a sympathy dig. There just wasn't the full on demand for another forum. Fact. A fact which I, in my eagerness, ignored.
No shutses! NEVAR! Just apathy and discorda-block, tbh. I keep wanting to post something angry about the state of things, but I just don't give a fuck that we bellowing apes are tearing each other new and larger arseholes every day. Today, it's just FUNNAY!
Archive is great! That's how it started anyways. I need to get collecting stuff as I haven't upped anything good for over a year.
Sometime in July, I'll move the psycho letters over there.
Sweet! I'd like to get a load of stuff into PDFs and get the downloads rocking again.
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 07:06:52 PM
Sweet! I'd like to get a load of stuff into PDFs and get the downloads rocking again.
Nice. Also, we really should get the store going again. I have some more comics on the way, Suu has her stuff, etc.
I'm also working on a line of posters with a friend of mine.
Back in the day it was easier to frequent all 4 places. pd, eb&g, POEE, and that other place that doesn't actually exist. Now I only seem to have time for the one. POEE has always been a great Discordian information resource. The layouts have always been inviting and I think the shops and the POEEcasts are great as well. I think it definitely still has an important and unique place in the world of Discordianism. But when it comes to forums, this place does seem to have the center of gravity.
Yeah, the store is broken right now. It needs to be simpler tbh.
I was thinking that people who wanted to sell stuff through POEE, could use their PayPal accounts to generate buttons and I could post their products up on the site.
Quote from: RWHN on June 29, 2010, 07:08:55 PM
Back in the day it was easier to frequent all 4 places. pd, eb&g, POEE, and that other place that doesn't actually exist. Now I only seem to have time for the one. POEE has always been a great Discordian information resource. The layouts have always been inviting and I think the shops and the POEEcasts are great as well. I think it definitely still has an important and unique place in the world of Discordianism. But when it comes to forums, this place does seem to have the center of gravity.
Good points, sir. How about I lock the POEE forums for new posts (except admins, Rog) and direct people here for active Disco take-part and offer the POEE forum as an old archive?
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: RWHN on June 29, 2010, 07:08:55 PM
Back in the day it was easier to frequent all 4 places. pd, eb&g, POEE, and that other place that doesn't actually exist. Now I only seem to have time for the one. POEE has always been a great Discordian information resource. The layouts have always been inviting and I think the shops and the POEEcasts are great as well. I think it definitely still has an important and unique place in the world of Discordianism. But when it comes to forums, this place does seem to have the center of gravity.
Good points, sir. How about I lock the POEE forums for new posts (except admins, Rog) and direct people here for active Disco take-part and offer the POEE forum as an old archive?
Or leave one forum unlocked for submissions.
I do think there's a need for a discordian forum other than PD, if only because so many people don't resonate with this place. But maybe duplicating the exact same kind of community structure (ie a forum) is beating a dead horse with an erection. Perhaps it could be replaced with a different means of communication, ie an imageboard? Some other kind of content aggregator? I'd suggest a social networking site, but Vex just launched http://spagbook.com (and is having trouble breathing life into it already) so we probably don't need two of those.
I've always thought that we need more recruitment points - places where random spags from the 'net can get hooked into this horrible thing we're all stuck in
I've always considered PD, POEE, and EB&G to be the "big three" Discordian communities. It's really a shame that PD is the only one with a lot of juice, I always liked that each place has its own feel, it's own take on Eris.
other questions for Syn
1. Is there any way I we could have p3nt's old forum up and running? I don't see it as a place that will get zillions of members so it's not like it needs its own domain. But I do so love my swearing forum!
2. I want to hear more info about your new publishing house
ETA: 3. Could you please fix Blackironprison.com? we misses it!
Okay, that works too. I suppose it we define PD and POEE as different things, it each a unique value point.
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 06:55:17 PM
I am back, but POEE is as the title says, deader than a dead dick. There's probably no need for a Discordian forum other than PD these days. PD's gravity is irresistable and insatiable, like a black hole of DOOM. So what the fuck are we going to do with POEE? 'Cause I have no idea.
All reasons stated above, and if nothing else for the possibility of something else. Like you said, PD is becoming fairly standard, at least for our flavor of Disco. This is a big step towards stagnation though, and the availability of other venues for projects, discussion, airing heads, etc., is pretty important, IMHO. Even if they're ghost towns now, the seperation makes them valuable.
I have a webhost with zillions of free space/bandwidth (and a spare domain), if BIP.com/swearing forum/whatever needs a place to stay, by the way.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2010, 07:15:35 PM
I do think there's a need for a discordian forum other than PD, if only because so many people don't resonate with this place.
Ah Cram, my favourite spag! :) (well, you're all my favourite spaggi.) ;)
QuoteBut maybe duplicating the exact same kind of community structure (ie a forum) is beating a dead horse with an erection. Perhaps it could be replaced with a different means of communication, ie an imageboard? Some other kind of content aggregator? I'd suggest a social networking site, but Vex just launched http://spagbook.com (and is having trouble breathing life into it already) so we probably don't need two of those.
With the content that's already there, I'd rather not take the forum down. It has always been a station to submit articles and stuff, but never really got that spirit behind it like 23ae has. I think adding moar functionality that wouldn't get used is more horse cock. :lulz:
QuoteI've always thought that we need more recruitment points - places where random spags from the 'net can get hooked into this horrible thing we're all stuck in
I've always considered PD, POEE, and EB&G to be the "big three" Discordian communities. It's really a shame that PD is the only one with a lot of juice, I always liked that each place has its own feel, it's own take on Eris.
Troof!
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other questions for Syn
1. Is there any way I we could have p3nt's old forum up and running? I don't see it as a place that will get zillions of members so it's not like it needs its own domain. But I do so love my swearing forum!
Yes.
Quote2. I want to hear more info about your new publishing house
Fuck. I knew you'd ask that. :lulz:
QuoteETA: 3. Could you please fix Blackironprison.com? we misses it!
Yep, one that got culled from an old server along the way. I have a backup, I just need to find the time to re-deploy it.
oh no! did we lose any content @ bip.com?
Even though I personally haven't been very good about visiting the other places lately, I'm with Cram and like the idea of their being different Discordian online communities. I honestly still find it hard to believe there aren't more. It seems like you should be able to google discordian forum and find a bunch. Yet, we don't. POEE, while not as busy, always had a very different feel. Less American. That's not a knock on this site, but, it was just a different overall lens on Discordianism.
The trick is how do you get people there? there is so much noise on the internet, how do you even cut through anymore?
Quote from: BDS on June 29, 2010, 07:25:36 PM
I have a webhost with zillions of free space/bandwidth (and a spare domain), if BIP.com/swearing forum/whatever needs a place to stay, by the way.
Cheers BDS, I appreciate the offer, thanks! :D I actually have a web design/hosting company on a nice shiny VPS, so I'm pretty fine for space/bandwidth.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2010, 07:30:33 PM
oh no! did we lose any content @ bip.com?
Noes! I have the full account backup! :)
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: BDS on June 29, 2010, 07:25:36 PM
I have a webhost with zillions of free space/bandwidth (and a spare domain), if BIP.com/swearing forum/whatever needs a place to stay, by the way.
Cheers BDS, I appreciate the offer, thanks! :D I actually have a web design/hosting company on a nice shiny VPS, so I'm pretty fine for space/bandwidth.
Sure thing. :)
Okay, you've fired me up. I'm gonna go clean the site down, get BIP back up and various other things.
And that reminds me. I need to replace the POEECast link with a link to: http://radiofreediscordia.org/ :D
There are two types of archives that I feel Discordia needs:
1. A record of Discordia past - something so that future discordians, researchers, & ne-er do wells, and cabbages can leaf through. Because Discordians have been generating reams of content since 1960, but finding it all is a real scavenger hunt
2. Documentation of Discordia present. There needs to be a spot to find pictures, a list of activities, and other stuff that we're doing NOW. This will give the next generation something to rebel against.
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on June 29, 2010, 07:41:01 PM
And that reminds me. I need to replace the POEECast link with a link to: http://radiofreediscordia.org/ :D
Do the POEEcasts live there now?
As I said on DoD, I'm willing to help throw some ideas around for updating / changing the mission of POEE.
I like the resources idea, as there does seem to be a serious need for a clear "storage area" for finished projects. Propaganda, writing projects, pictures, publications (ranging from Intermittens to MSY) and work in other media could be showcased cleanly and effectively.
Also, the project board(s) idea would be quite good. Though we do have the facility to do that at EB&G, some clear space to thrash out ideas for specific projects is always good. WOMP used to use P3nTs site for that, for example. It led to the epic NSFW thread and "A Fapcab Named Desire".
In the event of PD melting down for whatever technical or social reason, a backup forum for those fleeing destruction is good (Like the "Refugees Arms" thread on POEE).
An advertisement for who and what the combined communities of Discordia are up to and such is always going to be good (I reckon the .co.uk gains us a few people who may not otherwise be around, like Froggypance. And Harris, Like haggis but with more arse, only came to DoD cause he stumbled on POEE)
On a side note, I was thinking about shifting the IRC channel to another server for a while, due to the netsplits and such that were blighting maddshark, but that seems to have stabilised somewhat now. Still we could always do with more people at least visiting the channel for those dead times...
You could be the jj.am of PD.com.
Quote from: RWHN on June 29, 2010, 07:30:42 PM
Even though I personally haven't been very good about visiting the other places lately, I'm with Cram and like the idea of their being different Discordian online communities. I honestly still find it hard to believe there aren't more. It seems like you should be able to google discordian forum and find a bunch. Yet, we don't. POEE, while not as busy, always had a very different feel. Less American. That's not a knock on this site, but, it was just a different overall lens on Discordianism.
The trick is how do you get people there? there is so much noise on the internet, how do you even cut through anymore?
We killed or assimilated them all. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on June 29, 2010, 07:52:35 PM
In the event of PD melting down for whatever technical or social reason, a backup forum for those fleeing destruction is good (Like the "Refugees Arms" thread on POEE).
A good point. We've always had a formal or informal rendevouz point when the server crashed or flame wars got out of hand. The War of 05 is pretty much what gave birth to the BIP/TDN boards. And likewise, we should be able to provide that same kind of haven for the other communities when they have trouble.
QuoteAn advertisement for who and what the combined communities of Discordia are up to and such is always going to be good (I reckon the .co.uk gains us a few people who may not otherwise be around, like Froggypance. And Harris, Like haggis but with more arse, only came to DoD cause he stumbled on POEE)
I like this point as well. In the ideal world, the various Discordian communities on-line and off would have some kind of connection. Even if it was just some kind of newsletter or e-publication that everyone could read and contribute to. Well not the SJGames community because they are insufferable spags.
Quote from: Kai on June 29, 2010, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: RWHN on June 29, 2010, 07:30:42 PM
Even though I personally haven't been very good about visiting the other places lately, I'm with Cram and like the idea of their being different Discordian online communities. I honestly still find it hard to believe there aren't more. It seems like you should be able to google discordian forum and find a bunch. Yet, we don't. POEE, while not as busy, always had a very different feel. Less American. That's not a knock on this site, but, it was just a different overall lens on Discordianism.
The trick is how do you get people there? there is so much noise on the internet, how do you even cut through anymore?
We killed or assimilated them all. :lulz:
WE MUST FURTHER THE HEGEMONY!
everybody already said it all.
but
- keep POEE
- we need swearing forum, and also the WOMP cave
- it's a good refuge place, good place to regroup, LHX said something along those lines a few years ago
- I always liked POEE for the different flavour it had, too. And I was saddened to find when I checked it in the weeks before DoD that it was deader than dead horsecock that died from fatality.
- BIP.com back online! it's really a SUPER IMPORTANT website for serious, I bet it get a lot of hits?
Okay. I'm shutting down the main site so I can sort it's shit out.
POEE WILL RETURN!
Turn it into Orbital Platform #9
Rah!
The forum has a new skin that's probably 10x more usable than that blue abomonation. http://www.poee.co.uk/forum
Still working on the site...
The new skin looks great!
Cheers! :D
It's BACK!
Needs tweaking! :lulz:
Quote from: Rev. St. Syn, KSC on July 20, 2010, 01:06:36 PM
It's BACK!
Needs tweaking! :lulz:
Needs tweaking eh? What kind of meth-head are you going to use?