http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20020015-503544.html
QuoteChristine O'Donnell: "Where in the Constitution is the Separation of Church and State?"
Republican Senate Candidate Christine O'Donnell today challenged her Democratic opponent Chris Coons on his statement that the Constitution disallowed the integration of religion into the federal government, asking, "Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?"
The exchange, which prompted laughs from the studio audience, came during a debate this morning at Delaware's Widener School of Law, which was aired by WDEL radio.
In a discussion over the whether or not public schools should be allowed to integrate religion-based ideas into science curricula, O'Donnell argued that local school districts should have the choice to teach intelligent design if they choose.
When asked point blank by Coons if she believed in evolution, however, O'Donnell reiterated that her personal beliefs were not germane. "What I think about the theory of evolution is irrelevant," she emphasized, adding later that the school of thought was "not a fact but a theory."
Coons said that creationism, which he considers "a religious doctrine," should not be taught in public schools due to the Constitution's First Amendment. He argued that it explicitly enumerates the separation of church and state.
"The First Amendment does?" O'Donnell asked. "Let me just clarify: You're telling me that the separation of church and state is found in the First Amendment?"
"Government shall make no establishment of religion," Coons responded, reciting from memory the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. (Coons was off slightly: The first amendment actually reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.")
"That's in the First Amendment...?" O'Donnell responded.
Also during the debate, O'Donnell stumbled when asked whether or not she would repeal the 14th, 16th, or 17th Amendments if elected.
"The 17th Amendment I would not repeal," she said, before asking the questioner to define the 14th and 16th amendments, adding: "I'm sorry, I didn't bring my Constitution with me."
The 16th Amendment allows Congress to raise taxes without apportioning them among the states or tying the taxation to Census results. The 14th Amendment grants citizenship to everyone born in the United States. The 17th Amendment established direct election by popular vote of two U.S. Senators to each state .
Earlier in the debate, O'Donnell accused Coons of constitutional ignorance, saying that "perhaps they didn't teach you Constitutional law at Yale Divinity School."
She got my vote.
Please let her win. PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
Good thing she wouldn't repeal the 21st :lulz:
Schooled.
AMERICA™ DESERVES PALIN/O'DONNELL!
I have to envy some of these states. In this race in Delaware they're picking between a limp fish and a crazy church lady. Then again, I get to pick which flavor of shit sandwhich I'm going to eat when it comes to picking my next Governor.
I'd vote for her just because that was so FUNNY! :lulz:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 19, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
I have to envy some of these states. In this race in Delaware they're picking between a limp fish and a crazy church lady. Then again, I get to pick which flavor of shit sandwhich I'm going to eat when it comes to picking my next Governor.
You really think Cutler's that bad? Aside from his annoying frequency in my facebook feed, dude seems pretty reasonable and realistic, which is even more amazing considering he's from Cape Elizabeth.
Totally agree that Mitchell and LePage are the syrup and butter on a blueberry shitwaffle though.
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 19, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 19, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
I have to envy some of these states. In this race in Delaware they're picking between a limp fish and a crazy church lady. Then again, I get to pick which flavor of shit sandwhich I'm going to eat when it comes to picking my next Governor.
You really think Cutler's that bad? Aside from his annoying frequency in my facebook feed, dude seems pretty reasonable and realistic, which is even more amazing considering he's from Cape Elizabeth.
Totally agree that Mitchell and LePage are the syrup and butter on a blueberry shitwaffle though.
...Where do you get your metaphors?? :lol:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 19, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
I have to envy some of these states. In this race in Delaware they're picking between a limp fish and a crazy church lady. Then again, I get to pick which flavor of shit sandwhich I'm going to eat when it comes to picking my next Governor.
RIGHT BACK ATCHA SIR!
The crowd reaction is awesome!
I'm from Delaware, and have found this all rather fascinating.
Quote from: Bobby Campbell on October 20, 2010, 05:28:15 AM
The crowd reaction is awesome!
I'm from Delaware, and have found this all rather fascinating.
I had to watch the video a couple of times to tell whether they were laughing with her or at her. This is a damn loud dog whistle to her religious right backers. They somehow think that since the exact words "separation of church and state" aren't in the Constitution that the Founding Fathers wanted us to be a Christian theocracy. I wish I was fucking joking.
:horrormirth:
vorjack agrees with me:
http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/10/20/she-did-it-again/
QuoteRemember how I said that I liked the way that Christine O'Donnell would say things that were common in conservative christian circles, but uncommon in the rest of America? Well, she got in a good one during a debate with her opponent Chris Coons: "Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?"
This line is a staple in certain circles, and I've heard it any number of times on political call-in shows. But O'Donnell was foolish enough to bring it out at a law school...
The worst part is that she comes across as completely clueless. That line, "Where in the Constitution &tc," is supposed to just be the lead-in to a long diatribe about how "Separation of Church and State" is just a liberal anti-christian hoax. But when Coons repeats the First Amendment to her, she doesn't seem to know how to proceed to the next stage.
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 19, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 19, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
I have to envy some of these states. In this race in Delaware they're picking between a limp fish and a crazy church lady. Then again, I get to pick which flavor of shit sandwhich I'm going to eat when it comes to picking my next Governor.
You really think Cutler's that bad? Aside from his annoying frequency in my facebook feed, dude seems pretty reasonable and realistic, which is even more amazing considering he's from Cape Elizabeth.
Totally agree that Mitchell and LePage are the syrup and butter on a blueberry shitwaffle though.
No. He just hasn't run a very good campaign. I'll most likely be voting for him. I was really hopeful after the primaries he would bust out and win the thing a la King (no pun intended). He needs a little more zip in his campaign.
Same story in video form.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/10/20/ac.odonnell.constitution.gaffe.cnn?hpt=C2
More lulz than you can imagine.
Watching a less condensed version of the video, I notice Christine O'Donnell seems to act as if she thinks the crowd is reacting in approval of her making a very salient point!
There's another tea party candidate in Delaware, Glen Urquhart, running for a House of rep seat who claims "separation of church and state" comes from Adolf Hitler!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kh4xhem8tM
"When your liberal friends talk about separation of church and state ask them they they're Nazis."
Oh my god. I love the moments where, as she notices what she's said, her smile falters.
My life has taken on new meaning. I could spend the rest of my life watching people's facades of sanity fracturing at the edges.
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
Hrmmm... So masturbation is wrong but not gettin naked with a stranger?
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
Having some fun with this at CI and CG. Thanks. :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
Still... The guy is kind of a dick for talking... But then anything that will help ruin her chances at the polls....
:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 01:26:26 AM
Still... The guy is kind of a dick for talking... But then anything that will help ruin her chances at the polls....
:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:
I just like dragging teabaggers around by the ankles. :)
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 02:33:17 AM
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 03:28:29 AM
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
:lulz:
Can you pay the price of admission?
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
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Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
:lulz:
Can you pay the price of admission?
Guess that depends what you're asking.... :wink:
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 04:24:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 03:28:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
:lulz:
Can you pay the price of admission?
Guess that depends what you're asking.... :wink:
Okay, fuckos, please continue your bizarre and loathsome mating ritual in another thread.
Kthxbye.
Dok,
Doesn't want you getting stains all over his politics.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Meh. It'd not be much different than my current gf, so...
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2010, 04:51:09 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 04:24:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 03:28:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
:lulz:
Can you pay the price of admission?
Guess that depends what you're asking.... :wink:
Okay, fuckos, please continue your bizarre and loathsome mating ritual in another thread.
Kthxbye.
Dok,
Doesn't want you getting stains all over his politics.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2010, 04:51:09 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 04:24:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 03:28:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 29, 2010, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
I'd fuck her while she is chained to my satanic altar.
I can haz leftovers?
:lulz:
Can you pay the price of admission?
Guess that depends what you're asking.... :wink:
Okay, fuckos, please continue your bizarre and loathsome mating ritual in another thread.
Kthxbye.
Dok,
Doesn't want you getting stains all over his politics.
*sigh*, Wiccans :roll:
(j/k)
I'm not saying it's false... but this story has a lot of qualities which make it a good urban legend
-shes a drunken cougar
-that she sucks in bed
-the guy gave her the brush off, not even a goodbye kiss
namely, it articulates a lot of things Christina's opponents would like to say about her, or would like to do to her
her response (http://gawker.com/5676197/christine-odonnell-responds) is interesting. She doesn't refute anything in the story, she just talks about how inappropriate it was for anybody to publish it, and about how it's kind of mean to women in general to attack them by making a big deal out of their sexuality.
I expect this will catch like wildfire
It also explicitly states she doesn't shave down below.
Possibly harking back to her natural Wykkan roots?
:lulz:
an it harm done, do whom ye will
Quote from: Cramulus on October 29, 2010, 09:00:12 PM
I'm not saying it's false... but this story has a lot of qualities which make it a good urban legend
-shes a drunken cougar
-that she sucks in bed
-the guy gave her the brush off, not even a goodbye kiss
namely, it articulates a lot of things Christina's opponents would like to say about her, or would like to do to her
her response (http://gawker.com/5676197/christine-odonnell-responds) is interesting. She doesn't refute anything in the story, she just talks about how inappropriate it was for anybody to publish it, and about how it's kind of mean to women in general to attack them by making a big deal out of their sexuality.
I expect this will catch like wildfire
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
I mean, its one thing to say "She claims to want us all to be chaste, but she likes to get naked with strangers!" It's another to be like "LOL She sucks and has a hairy bush!!"
I hope someone takes pictures of the his very small penis and posts it online ;-)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/gawker/trail-anonymous-christine-odonnells-sex-free-pal
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
So what? It's politics. And this is precisely the atmosphere the teabaggers have insisted on.
"Van Jones is a Marxist! Obama puts Maoist decorations on his "Holiday" Tree!"
\
:teabagger:
It occurs to me that we need a Teabagger emoticon, to compliment the hippie one.
Am I not good enough for you Cain?
\
:nutjob:
:nutjob:
That's not bad. If she wins the seat, I'll install it, after cleaning up those black lines a little (yes, I know I am giving out mixed incentives here...I care not).
I'm also going to hit flickr later and pic out the most hilarious picture I can find for :teabagger:
Quote from: Cain on October 30, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
That's not bad. If she wins the seat, I'll install it, after cleaning up those black lines a little (yes, I know I am giving out mixed incentives here...I care not).
I'm also going to hit flickr later and pic out the most hilarious picture I can find for :teabagger:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=13084.msg951973#msg951973 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=13084.msg951973#msg951973)
Dok already installed it a week ago. It wasn't my suggestion, though. :lol:
Quote from: Cain on October 30, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
That's not bad. If she wins the seat, I'll install it, after cleaning up those black lines a little (yes, I know I am giving out mixed incentives here...I care not).
I'm also going to hit flickr later and pic out the most hilarious picture I can find for :teabagger:
I already installed it, and another teabagger emote. :teabagger1:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2010, 03:34:06 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
So what? It's politics. And this is precisely the atmosphere the teabaggers have insisted on.
Doesn't make him any less of a shitheel.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 01, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2010, 03:34:06 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
So what? It's politics. And this is precisely the atmosphere the teabaggers have insisted on.
Doesn't make him any less of a shitheel.
You really aren't going to enjoy the next 10 years or so, Rat.
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 29, 2010, 09:00:12 PM
I'm not saying it's false... but this story has a lot of qualities which make it a good urban legend
-shes a drunken cougar
-that she sucks in bed
-the guy gave her the brush off, not even a goodbye kiss
namely, it articulates a lot of things Christina's opponents would like to say about her, or would like to do to her
her response (http://gawker.com/5676197/christine-odonnell-responds) is interesting. She doesn't refute anything in the story, she just talks about how inappropriate it was for anybody to publish it, and about how it's kind of mean to women in general to attack them by making a big deal out of their sexuality.
I expect this will catch like wildfire
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
I mean, its one thing to say "She claims to want us all to be chaste, but she likes to get naked with strangers!" It's another to be like "LOL She sucks and has a hairy bush!!"
I hope someone takes pictures of the his very small penis and posts it online ;-)
Really?
Saying a woman has a bush is like
taking pictures of a small penis?
And where outside of ECH-land and Japan is untrimmed pubic hair considered offensive?
Jesus-assfisting-Christ...
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 01, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 29, 2010, 09:00:12 PM
I'm not saying it's false... but this story has a lot of qualities which make it a good urban legend
-shes a drunken cougar
-that she sucks in bed
-the guy gave her the brush off, not even a goodbye kiss
namely, it articulates a lot of things Christina's opponents would like to say about her, or would like to do to her
her response (http://gawker.com/5676197/christine-odonnell-responds) is interesting. She doesn't refute anything in the story, she just talks about how inappropriate it was for anybody to publish it, and about how it's kind of mean to women in general to attack them by making a big deal out of their sexuality.
I expect this will catch like wildfire
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
I mean, its one thing to say "She claims to want us all to be chaste, but she likes to get naked with strangers!" It's another to be like "LOL She sucks and has a hairy bush!!"
I hope someone takes pictures of the his very small penis and posts it online ;-)
Really? Saying a woman has a bush is like taking pictures of a small penis?
And where outside of ECH-land and Japan is untrimmed pubic hair considered offensive?
Jesus-assfisting-Christ...
No, his kiss and tell is offensive to me personally... even though I really really hope Ms O'Donnell is not a senator, ripping on some chick cause she came over, got drunk and wanted to play in bed is just bad form.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 01, 2010, 05:31:58 PM
You really aren't going to enjoy the next 10 years or so, Rat.
Oh I'm enjoying most of it... but no matter how whacked out the rest of the world's gonna be... I still have a couple standards.
I mean, its fine to say she's a hypocrite (after all, if masturbation is lust in the heart... what is gettin' naked in bed with a stranger?) Its fine to make fun of her for public statements, and Eris knows she's made plenty of them. However, at least for me, taking a few thousand dollars to tell people about any girl that you've been with is just pathetic and wrong to my personal view of being a guy.
But hell, I still wear chucks so obviously I've lost touch with the times.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 03:44:24 PM
No, his kiss and tell is offensive to me personally... even though I really really hope Ms O'Donnell is not a senator, ripping on some chick cause she came over, got drunk and wanted to play in bed is just bad form.
Do you find the homosexuals who out anti-gay proponents for their gay affairs equally despicable?
Because this isn't just "some chick," and wouldn't be a story if O'Donnell wasn't:
a) running for public office
b) being a massive hypocrite
Those are the key facts you keep conveniently leaving out.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 03:44:24 PM
No, his kiss and tell is offensive to me personally... even though I really really hope Ms O'Donnell is not a senator, ripping on some chick cause she came over, got drunk and wanted to play in bed is just bad form.
Do you find the homosexuals who out anti-gay proponents for their gay affairs equally despicable?
Because this isn't just "some chick," and wouldn't be a story if O'Donnell wasn't:
a) running for public office
b) being a massive hypocrite
Those are the key facts you keep conveniently leaving out.
As I said:
Quote"I mean, its one thing to say "She claims to want us all to be chaste, but she likes to get naked with strangers!" It's another to be like "LOL She sucks and has a hairy bush!!"
and
QuoteI mean, its fine to say she's a hypocrite (after all, if masturbation is lust in the heart... what is gettin' naked in bed with a stranger?) Its fine to make fun of her for public statements, and Eris knows she's made plenty of them. However, at least for me, taking a few thousand dollars to tell people about any girl that you've been with is just pathetic and wrong to my personal view of being a guy.
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
QuoteDo you find the homosexuals who out anti-gay proponents for their gay affairs equally despicable?
Depends. If they say "He says he's anti-gay, but he went to a hotel with me and we had sex..." then that's exposing hypocrisy. If they say "So this dumb ass Senator gets drunk and starts playing grab ass, so we go back to my place and he gets naked and I realize that his cock is small and he has grey pubes. AND he doesn't want to be the power bottom, so I told him he could suck his own dick..." then yeah, I think that makes the person doing the outing an asshat.
It doesn't lessen the hypocrisy of the politican in either scenario.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
QuoteDo you find the homosexuals who out anti-gay proponents for their gay affairs equally despicable?
Depends. If they say "He says he's anti-gay, but he went to a hotel with me and we had sex..." then that's exposing hypocrisy. If they say "So this dumb ass Senator gets drunk and starts playing grab ass, so we go back to my place and he gets naked and I realize that his cock is small and he has grey pubes. AND he doesn't want to be the power bottom, so I told him he could suck his own dick..." then yeah, I think that makes the person doing the outing an asshat.
It doesn't lessen the hypocrisy of the politican in either scenario.
I'm not saying the guy isn't an asshat—I'm taking issue with your position that O'Donnell somehow has the moral highground here.
"Anonymous" also didn't go into nearly as much detail as your example when he easily could have.
I'd like to take this moment to mock anyone who is sympathetic in any way to O'Donnell.
Like this ---> :lulz:
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
What possible reason would there be to mention that if it weren't to denigrate her?
Quote
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
QuoteDo you find the homosexuals who out anti-gay proponents for their gay affairs equally despicable?
Depends. If they say "He says he's anti-gay, but he went to a hotel with me and we had sex..." then that's exposing hypocrisy. If they say "So this dumb ass Senator gets drunk and starts playing grab ass, so we go back to my place and he gets naked and I realize that his cock is small and he has grey pubes. AND he doesn't want to be the power bottom, so I told him he could suck his own dick..." then yeah, I think that makes the person doing the outing an asshat.
It doesn't lessen the hypocrisy of the politican in either scenario.
I'm not saying the guy isn't an asshat—I'm taking issue with your position that O'Donnell somehow has the moral highground here.
"Anonymous" also didn't go into nearly as much detail as your example when he easily could have.
Where did I say anything about her moral high ground? I think that people are responsible for their own behavior, notwithstanding the behavior of someone else. Just because she's a hypocritical know nothing, doesn't excuse his boorish behavior.
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
Oh gods...this means I'm one of you perverts doesn't it? I would have totally been all, "just a sec I need to get the gloves and silicon lube."
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 02, 2010, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
Oh gods...this means I'm one of you perverts doesn't it? I would have totally been all, "just a sec I need to get the gloves and silicon lube."
You forgot the other thingie...The one with the pull starter.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
I fail to see any point here that disagrees with what I wrote.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 02, 2010, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
Oh gods...this means I'm one of you perverts doesn't it? I would have totally been all, "just a sec I need to get the gloves and silicon lube."
You forgot the other thingie...The one with the pull starter.
:lulz: I hope other wise :horrormirth:
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
I fail to see any point here that disagrees with what I wrote.
It's not so much that I disagree, it's that it's irrelevant. HE isn't running for office, and SHE is.
"I'll answer your questions when I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell, actual quote, no shit.
I fail to see why this shit shouldn't be used as ammunition. I don't give a crap about the anonymous dude.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
I fail to see any point here that disagrees with what I wrote.
It's not so much that I disagree, it's that it's irrelevant. HE isn't running for office, and SHE is.
"I'll answer your questions when I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell, actual quote, no shit.
I fail to see why this shit shouldn't be used as ammunition. I don't give a crap about the anonymous dude.
Ammunition for what? To embarrass her? She does fine on her own. Any moron that was gonna vote for her before isn't gonna vote democrat now. I would wager that this expose will do nothing to the final tally of numbers.
So at best, you get to point and laugh at a woman's pathetic lack of a useful sex life. Ummm, Congrats?
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
I fail to see any point here that disagrees with what I wrote.
It's not so much that I disagree, it's that it's irrelevant. HE isn't running for office, and SHE is.
"I'll answer your questions when I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell, actual quote, no shit.
I fail to see why this shit shouldn't be used as ammunition. I don't give a crap about the anonymous dude.
Ammunition for what? To embarrass her? She does fine on her own. Any moron that was gonna vote for her before isn't gonna vote democrat now. I would wager that this expose will do nothing to the final tally of numbers.
So at best, you get to point and laugh at a woman's pathetic lack of a useful sex life. Ummm, Congrats?
Mmm. No, scandals never affect elections, nope. :lulz:
Sorry I bashed your hero. :wink:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
Rat, he may be an asshole, but so is she, and she's running for the senate.
I fail to see any point here that disagrees with what I wrote.
It's not so much that I disagree, it's that it's irrelevant. HE isn't running for office, and SHE is.
"I'll answer your questions when I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell, actual quote, no shit.
I fail to see why this shit shouldn't be used as ammunition. I don't give a crap about the anonymous dude.
Ammunition for what? To embarrass her? She does fine on her own. Any moron that was gonna vote for her before isn't gonna vote democrat now. I would wager that this expose will do nothing to the final tally of numbers.
So at best, you get to point and laugh at a woman's pathetic lack of a useful sex life. Ummm, Congrats?
Mmm. No, scandals never affect elections, nope. :lulz:
Sorry I bashed your hero. :wink:
If the words that came out of her mouth didn't change the voters minds... failing to have sex with a guy won't either.
The Tea Party is intent on exercising its muscle... they're the only ones that would vote for her and their cognitive dissonance is unlikely to see this as anything but a smear campaign by some lefty that got paid a few thousand dollars to behave like a pig.
I mean, I would be O'Donnell's Internet White Knight, but I hear she doesn't put out and has a hairy bush. :lulz:
Well, given your Libertarianism, I guess this shouldn't be a shock.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:36:53 PM
Well, given your Libertarianism, I guess this shouldn't be a shock.
Err, you did realize that the last line was a joke, yes?
ETA:
However, yeah... my libertarian viewpoint says that people are responsible for their actions. Ms. O'Donnel is responsible for being a hypocrite and a know nothing. Mr. Anonymous is responsible for being a shit heel and a great representation of a Pig.
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
Um, Cram, it's politics. It's a race to the bottom, and has been since Andrew Jackson's day.
ANYTHING goes, AFAIC. And it's not like the teabaggers have been models of restraint in this department, right?
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:36:53 PM
Well, given your Libertarianism, I guess this shouldn't be a shock.
Err, you did realize that the last line was a joke, yes?
ETA:
However, yeah... my libertarian viewpoint says that people are responsible for their actions. Ms. O'Donnel is responsible for being a hypocrite and a know nothing. Mr. Anonymous is responsible for being a shit heel and a great representation of a Pig.
And he's not running for anything, so who cares?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
Um, Cram, it's politics. It's a race to the bottom, and has been since Andrew Jackson's day.
ANYTHING goes, AFAIC. And it's not like the teabaggers have been models of restraint in this department, right?
what if this were an article about O'Donnell having nigger blood?
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
Um, Cram, it's politics. It's a race to the bottom, and has been since Andrew Jackson's day.
ANYTHING goes, AFAIC. And it's not like the teabaggers have been models of restraint in this department, right?
what if this were an article about O'Donnell having nigger blood?
Then I expect she'd be murdered by a Texan. But what does this have to do with her behavior?
Seriously, Cram, these teabaggers are a pack of brownshirts, and they're proud of it. Why the FUCK should we play softball with them?
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Where did I say anything about her moral high ground? I think that people are responsible for their own behavior, notwithstanding the behavior of someone else. Just because she's a hypocritical know nothing, doesn't excuse his boorish behavior.
You said that right here:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
Right.
Because we should hold regular citizens and Senatorial candidates to the same standard.
I mean, it's not like she's seeking one of the most powerful offices in the nation and campaigning on lies or anything.
What's more important here is that some anonymous loser commented on a woman's bush!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:36:53 PM
Well, given your Libertarianism, I guess this shouldn't be a shock.
Err, you did realize that the last line was a joke, yes?
ETA:
However, yeah... my libertarian viewpoint says that people are responsible for their actions. Ms. O'Donnel is responsible for being a hypocrite and a know nothing. Mr. Anonymous is responsible for being a shit heel and a great representation of a Pig.
And he's not running for anything, so who cares?
I do. I don't set my standards based on some old, stinky, hypocritical and bitter tea.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Where did I say anything about her moral high ground? I think that people are responsible for their own behavior, notwithstanding the behavior of someone else. Just because she's a hypocritical know nothing, doesn't excuse his boorish behavior.
You said that right here:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
Right.
Because we should hold regular citizens and Senatorial candidates to the same standard.
I mean, it's not like she's seeking one of the most powerful offices in the nation and campaigning on lies or anything.
What's more important here is that some anonymous loser commented on a woman's bush!
I think we're supposed to emulate Cicero and play nice while the teabaggers do whatever it takes.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
It's questionable as to whether the guy even would have come forward if O'Donnell's behavior wasn't so inconsistent with her public statements.
No I'm saying, if the article were calling her out for having black relatives, that would be kind of gross regardless of who it's about, right? There are certain arguments which don't help your case because they're based on racist or sexist assumptions.
using the media to call somebody a slut eventually makes lots of girls feel guilty and ashamed about sex
o'donnell is a shmorgasboard of fail, it's not like there's a shortage of things to roast her about
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Where did I say anything about her moral high ground? I think that people are responsible for their own behavior, notwithstanding the behavior of someone else. Just because she's a hypocritical know nothing, doesn't excuse his boorish behavior.
You said that right here:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 29, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
In the end, I still think the guy is the bigger asshole in this story.
In This STORY... ie the story about her being a drunk cocktease.
Quote
Right.
Because we should hold regular citizens and Senatorial candidates to the same standard.
Well... yes actually I think we should consider politicans by the same standard that we consider other people. They are, after all, just regular citizens for most of their life. In fact, they are just hairless (or somewhat hairless anyway) monkeys all the time.
Did I miss some politicans that were truthful, ethical, never involved in scandal and had no skeletons in the closet?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 08:03:47 PM
I think we're supposed to emulate Cicero and play nice while the teabaggers do whatever it takes.
TFY,S! doesn't just apply to following the herd.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:07:27 PM
No I'm saying, if the article were calling her out for having black relatives, that would be kind of gross regardless of who it's about, right? There are certain arguments which don't help your case because they're based on racist or sexist assumptions.
using the media to call somebody a slut eventually makes lots of girls feel guilty and ashamed about sex
o'donnell is a shmorgasboard of fail, it's not like there's a shortage of things to roast her about
Christine O'Donnell has not made public statements telling people not to be Black...Not everyone states that they want to regulate everyone else's sex lives (up to and including masturbation), do they?
If someone can't tell that it's the hypocrisy thing that makes this funny, then I'm afraid I can't do a damn thing to make it any plainer.
Sorry. This shit isn't off the table when it comes to teabaggers. I'll let you and Rat play the good guy on this one. I'll do whatever I can to embarrass the party of curb-stomping.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 08:03:47 PM
I think we're supposed to emulate Cicero and play nice while the teabaggers do whatever it takes.
TFY,S! doesn't just apply to following the herd.
Right. You DO know what happened to Cicero, right? And what happened to the people in the nation in which he lived?
He remained civil. They nailed his tongue and hands above the senate door. And the people eventually wound up with Tiberius, Caligula, Nero, Galba, etc.
I would rather have my tongue nailed to the Washington Monument than cash in my ethics so I could roll in the mud with the stupidest 10% of the country.
Ok, now I'm off to vote and hopefully keep a lobbyist out of the Governors Mansion.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 08:20:50 PM
I would rather have my tongue nailed to the Washington Monument than cash in my ethics so I could roll in the mud with the stupidest 10% of the country.
How nice for you.
I have children who have to grow up in this country, so you'll excuse me if I find your egotistical martyrdom to be an unacceptable alternative for myself.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:07:27 PM
No I'm saying, if the article were calling her out for having black relatives, that would be kind of gross regardless of who it's about, right? There are certain arguments which don't help your case because they're based on racist or sexist assumptions.
using the media to call somebody a slut eventually makes lots of girls feel guilty and ashamed about sex
o'donnell is a shmorgasboard of fail, it's not like there's a shortage of things to roast her about
That the guy has a sexist point of view is incidental to the hypocrisy he is exposing. He's not trying to enforce his sexism on the entire nation.
And since when do people breaking scandalous news need to be saints?
I think the policies that O'Donnell supports do more to make girls feel guilty and ashamed about sex than what what some anonymous knucklehead says about O'Donnell's bush.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
He's not trying to enforce his sexism on the entire nation.
This.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
I think the policies that O'Donnell supports do more to make girls feel guilty and ashamed about sex than what what some anonymous knucklehead says about O'Donnell's bush.
And that.
But I think we're supposed to wring our hands a little more, and wail about how mean it is, and how giggling at this shit is just like curb-stomping a 115 pound woman.
oh give it a rest and don't put words in my mouth
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:33:07 PM
oh give it a rest and don't put words in my mouth
Um, like with the whole completely unrelated Black thing, above?
I did not say that anybody was calling anybody a nigger
I was saying that certain things shouldn't be used as ammo, no matter who the person is
nigger, faggot, slut, kike, etc
the dems are desperate - they stand to lose a lot in this election. That's why the media recently's been so acerbic - they have been running attack ads like crazy (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=1191026). But a lot of people are wondering if this is actually a good strategy (http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2010/10/30/why-negative-ads-backfire)- these things have been known to backfire, especially when the media gets too negative.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
I did not say that anybody was calling anybody a nigger
I was saying that certain things shouldn't be used as ammo, no matter who the person is
She wants to regulate sex, with that in her not-so-distant past? That's perfectly legitimate ammunition.
It's worked, too. Between that and her "I'll answer your questions when I'm senator" comment, she's lost about 4% of the middle, which may or may not be enough.
what's the story with her wanting to regulate sex up to and including masturbation? I have read that she was in a wiccan anti-masturbation coven in the 90s, I haven't read that she's pushing legislation based on it.
If I may step in and try to clarify, I think the point (ITT) is not to attack her by pointing out / calling her a "slut", but rather to attack her by pointing out the hypocrisy coming from the discrepancy between the things she preaches and her actions.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong, then ignore me :) (as the subject doesn't really engage me anyway)
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:50:17 PM
what's the story with her wanting to regulate sex up to and including masturbation? I have read that she was in a wiccan anti-masturbation coven in the 90s, I haven't read that she's pushing legislation based on it.
How could she? She hasn't been elected yet.
Incidentally,
QuoteIn early September a political consulting firm hired by O'Donnell released a Web video insinuating that Castle was having a homosexual affair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Odonnell
And
QuoteShe then appeared on Mark Levin's radio show, accusing Castle of engaging in "unmanly tactics" during the campaign and saying, "this is not a bake-off, put your man-pants on."
But you were asking about stuff like this:
QuoteDuring a debate between O'Donnell and her opponent Chris Coons on October 13, 2010 at the University of Delaware, O'Donnell brought up her opposition to activist judges and stated her objection to a recent court decision to ban the military from discharging homosexual service members who reveal their sexual orientation.
and this is good, though unrelated:
QuoteShe opposes abortion, including in cases of rape and incest,[27] but if the woman was otherwise going to die, she would allow family members to decide which life to save
FAMILY MEMBERS. :lol: The woman would get NO SAY.
She claims to have repudiated her anti-masturbation stance, excusing it as "being very passionate in her beliefs".
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 02, 2010, 08:59:03 PM
If I may step in and try to clarify, I think the point (ITT) is not to attack her by pointing out / calling her a "slut", but rather to attack her by pointing out the hypocrisy coming from the discrepancy between the things she preaches and her actions.
I've clarified that twice. Nobody paid any attention.
Don't get me wrong - I understand why people are making a big deal out of this. I just don't feel like it's actually a big enough deal to merit public slut-shaming. :shrug:
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
Don't get me wrong - I understand why people are making a big deal out of this. I just don't feel like it's actually a big enough deal to merit public slut-shaming. :shrug:
Well, since you insist on putting words in my mouth, you can debate yourself. Good day.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 08:20:50 PM
I would rather have my tongue nailed to the Washington Monument than cash in my ethics so I could roll in the mud with the stupidest 10% of the country.
How nice for you.
I have children who have to grow up in this country, so you'll excuse me if I find your egotistical martyrdom to be an unacceptable alternative for myself.
If this is the only thing that keeps her from becoming a senator, then your kids future is already fucked.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
Don't get me wrong - I understand why people are making a big deal out of this. I just don't feel like it's actually a big enough deal to merit public slut-shaming. :shrug:
Well, since you insist on putting words in my mouth, you can debate yourself. Good day.
uhhh I was talking about the article
*sigh*
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 09:11:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 08:20:50 PM
I would rather have my tongue nailed to the Washington Monument than cash in my ethics so I could roll in the mud with the stupidest 10% of the country.
How nice for you.
I have children who have to grow up in this country, so you'll excuse me if I find your egotistical martyrdom to be an unacceptable alternative for myself.
If this is the only thing that keeps her from becoming a senator, then your kids future is already fucked.
Well, it worked for her, right? When she smeared Castle? She fucking won, and what she said didn't even have the virtue of being true.
But don't let me get in the way of your self-righteous bullshit.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
Don't get me wrong - I understand why people are making a big deal out of this. I just don't feel like it's actually a big enough deal to merit public slut-shaming. :shrug:
I'm not slut-shaming and I don't think Dok is either.
Gawker addressed this, also:
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Three general lines of argument have emerged attacking the post: 1) Politicians' intimate sexual encounters—or at least this intimate sexual encounter—ought to be off-limits; 2) O'Donnell is a woman, and publishing accounts of her sexual behavior amounts to sexist "slut-shaming"; and 3) Nothing in the account we published directly contradicts O'Donnell's public stances.
What's missing from most of the criticism is this essential bit of context: Christine O'Donnell is seeking federal office based in part on her self-generated, and carefully tended, image as a sexually chaste woman. She lies about who she is; she tells that lie in service of an attempt to impose her private sexual values on her fellow citizens; and she's running for Senate. We thought information documenting that lie—that O'Donnell does not live a chaste life as she defines the word, and in fact hops into bed, naked and drunk, with men that she's just met—was of interest to our readers.
Much of the criticism leveled against us is based on the premise that we think hopping into bed, naked and drunk, with men or women whenever one wants is "slutty," and that therefore our publication of Anonymous' story was intended to diminish O'Donnell on those terms. Any reader of this site ought to rather quickly gather that we are in fact avid supporters of hopping into bed, naked and drunk, with men or women that one has just met.
...
"Slut-shaming" is telling women that if they indulge their sexual desires they are impure. It's telling them that if they view pornography, there is something wrong with them. Christine O'Donnell seeks to "shame" "sluts" on an hourly basis. Worse, she believes people who hop into bed with people they barely know who happen to be of the same sex suffer from an "identity disorder" and are "deviants." She has repeatedly chosen, of her own volition, to make it her business to condemn the private sexual behaviors of millions of men and women who believe, or behave, differently than she does. She's of course free to do so. But when it turns out that her own private sexual behavior doesn't measure up to her public rhetoric—that she "push[es] the limits" without crossing the line as opposed to "living through the power of Christ's blood"—it deserves to be noted. And the argument that someone's private life shouldn't be the object of public attention isn't really available to someone who has manufactured a political and pseudo-celebrity career out of publicly casting judgment on the private behavior of others.
http://gawker.com/5676725/why-we-published-the-christine-odonnell-story
Now who's putting words in someone elses mouth?
:lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
Now who's putting words in someone elses mouth?
:lulz:
wut
You know what? Fuck this. Rat accomplished what he set out to do, which was piss someone off.
You win, Rat. I hope your hero does, too. America deserves her.
Yep, I exist only to piss people off... :roll:
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
Don't get me wrong - I understand why people are making a big deal out of this. I just don't feel like it's actually a big enough deal to merit public slut-shaming. :shrug:
I'm not slut-shaming and I don't think Dok is either.
Gawker addressed this, also:
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Three general lines of argument have emerged attacking the post: 1) Politicians' intimate sexual encounters—or at least this intimate sexual encounter—ought to be off-limits; 2) O'Donnell is a woman, and publishing accounts of her sexual behavior amounts to sexist "slut-shaming"; and 3) Nothing in the account we published directly contradicts O'Donnell's public stances.
What's missing from most of the criticism is this essential bit of context: Christine O'Donnell is seeking federal office based in part on her self-generated, and carefully tended, image as a sexually chaste woman. She lies about who she is; she tells that lie in service of an attempt to impose her private sexual values on her fellow citizens; and she's running for Senate. We thought information documenting that lie—that O'Donnell does not live a chaste life as she defines the word, and in fact hops into bed, naked and drunk, with men that she's just met—was of interest to our readers.
Much of the criticism leveled against us is based on the premise that we think hopping into bed, naked and drunk, with men or women whenever one wants is "slutty," and that therefore our publication of Anonymous' story was intended to diminish O'Donnell on those terms. Any reader of this site ought to rather quickly gather that we are in fact avid supporters of hopping into bed, naked and drunk, with men or women that one has just met.
...
"Slut-shaming" is telling women that if they indulge their sexual desires they are impure. It's telling them that if they view pornography, there is something wrong with them. Christine O'Donnell seeks to "shame" "sluts" on an hourly basis. Worse, she believes people who hop into bed with people they barely know who happen to be of the same sex suffer from an "identity disorder" and are "deviants." She has repeatedly chosen, of her own volition, to make it her business to condemn the private sexual behaviors of millions of men and women who believe, or behave, differently than she does. She's of course free to do so. But when it turns out that her own private sexual behavior doesn't measure up to her public rhetoric—that she "push[es] the limits" without crossing the line as opposed to "living through the power of Christ's blood"—it deserves to be noted. And the argument that someone's private life shouldn't be the object of public attention isn't really available to someone who has manufactured a political and pseudo-celebrity career out of publicly casting judgment on the private behavior of others.
http://gawker.com/5676725/why-we-published-the-christine-odonnell-story
They won't listen, Net.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
Yep, I exist only to piss people off... :roll:
Yeah, your motives were clear. While laughing at a response to a poorly-worded post, you meant only to spread some love.
Okay, I admit it, I was wrong.
Pointing out hypocrisy = "slut-shaming".
It's okay for O'Donnell to win the primary by lying about her primary candidate's sexual orientation, but not okay to tell the truth about her hypocrisy.
Pointing out hypocrisy is a shameful act, which lowers the person doing it to the level of curb-stompers and squads of teabagger voter intimidation squads.
It is better to be batshit politically correct, even if it means brownshirts get a free ride.
Did I get everything, Rat?
ETA: Refuting the claims of a hypocrite is wrong, because it makes other women afraid to run for office. Which is why Gabrielle Giffords dropped out of the race when this story broke. Wait. She didn't? How can this be?
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Ms. O'Donnel is responsible for being a hypocrite and knows nothing in bed. Mr. Anonymous is responsible for being a shit heel and a great representation of a Pig in bed
Its not just for fortune cookie anymore
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
I did not say that anybody was calling anybody a nigger
I was saying that certain things shouldn't be used as ammo, no matter who the person is
nigger, faggot, slut, kike, etc
the dems are desperate - they stand to lose a lot in this election. That's why the media recently's been so acerbic - they have been running attack ads like crazy (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=1191026). But a lot of people are wondering if this is actually a good strategy (http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2010/10/30/why-negative-ads-backfire)- these things have been known to backfire, especially when the media gets too negative.
Faggot should absolutely be used as ammo against anti-gay politicians. Slut against anti-sex ones (which O'Donnell is) Kike against Anti-Jewish ones and Nigger against Anti-Black ones. Showing that an anti-sex candidate such as O'Donnell is actually a slut destroys her base.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on November 02, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
I did not say that anybody was calling anybody a nigger
I was saying that certain things shouldn't be used as ammo, no matter who the person is
nigger, faggot, slut, kike, etc
the dems are desperate - they stand to lose a lot in this election. That's why the media recently's been so acerbic - they have been running attack ads like crazy (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=1191026). But a lot of people are wondering if this is actually a good strategy (http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2010/10/30/why-negative-ads-backfire)- these things have been known to backfire, especially when the media gets too negative.
Faggot should absolutely be used as ammo against anti-gay politicians. Slut against anti-sex ones (which O'Donnell is) Kike against Anti-Jewish ones and Nigger against Anti-Black ones. Showing that an anti-sex candidate such as O'Donnell is actually a slut destroys her base.
:facepalm:
O'Donnell is toast, and is already jabbering about suing. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 12:37:06 AM
O'Donnell is toast, and is already jabbering about suing. :lulz:
Hell yes. Maybe they'll let camera's into the courtroom.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 03, 2010, 01:30:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 12:37:06 AM
O'Donnell is toast, and is already jabbering about suing. :lulz:
Hell yes. Maybe they'll let camera's into the courtroom.
:lulz:
God doesn't like us that much.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 04:45:10 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
OK, so I have a hard time keeping up with Conservative America. Is not having a Brazilian now as risque as having one was five years ago? Are good right-wing Christian matrons totally getting their pussies waxed?
What I'm asking is whether this means Laura Bush has a naked coot.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 04:56:56 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
OK, so I have a hard time keeping up with Conservative America. Is not having a Brazilian now as risque as having one was five years ago? Are good right-wing Christian matrons totally getting their pussies waxed?
What I'm asking is whether this means Laura Bush has a naked coot.
You're going to hell for that.
:vom:
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
It's only relevant if she's actually promoting anti-sex legislation. If she is, her hypocrisy is very relevant to her campaign.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 05:00:35 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 04:56:56 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 02, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 02, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 02, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Its one thing to say "Look, this woman came to my house, we drank, partied and ended up naked in bed together... She is a hypocrite." And saying "She's a Cougar, has a hairy bush and doesn't put out... and look how cool I was when I told her I wasn't interested."
Its one thing to expose hypocrisy. its another to do so in a way that is explicitly denigrating the person involved.
Where is all this abusive "denigration" of O'Donnell? The worst I read in his article was, "When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by." That's what constitutes a burn these days? "Cougar" and "hairy bush"?
FFS.
Actually, yeah. It's not that offensive to us as certified Perverts, but among mainstream conservative USA, anything abnormal (like not waxing, or whatever) is gross and disgusting. One of my roommates girlfriends asked for anal in bed - and he broke up with her, and now shares that story at every opportunity as a "man, good thing I got out of that relationship" story with other bros. And the other guys universally laugh and agree.
OK, so I have a hard time keeping up with Conservative America. Is not having a Brazilian now as risque as having one was five years ago? Are good right-wing Christian matrons totally getting their pussies waxed?
What I'm asking is whether this means Laura Bush has a naked coot.
You're going to hell for that.
:vom:
:thanks:
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
Um, Cram, it's politics. It's a race to the bottom, and has been since Andrew Jackson's day.
ANYTHING goes, AFAIC. And it's not like the teabaggers have been models of restraint in this department, right?
what if this were an article about O'Donnell having nigger blood?
That might be relevant if she was advocating racist legislation.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 05:02:31 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
running for senator or not, I think it's kind of gross to publicly shame unmarried people for having one night stands
I mean yeah, it betrays the virginal image she fails to project, but slut-shaming her? weeeak
It's only relevant if she's actually promoting anti-sex legislation. If she is, her hypocrisy is very relevant to her campaign.
Fun thing is, she never actually promoted anything other than the static-y noises in her head.
"I'll answer your questions after I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell
Incidentally, her twin fruitcake, Sharron Angle, also got stomped at the polls.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 05:08:53 AM
"I'll answer your questions after I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell
:x
*googles it*
You sure that's not Angle you're quoting?
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 04:49:39 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 04:45:10 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Why? How is being a naked and willing virgin more of a tease than being a naked and willing whore?
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 03, 2010, 05:12:46 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 05:08:53 AM
"I'll answer your questions after I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell
:x
*googles it*
You sure that's not Angle you're quoting?
No. I frequently confuse the two.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-13-dumbest-christine-odonnell-quotes
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
See?
If anything, that guy was probably in her employ. How does this story do anything but enhance her reputation? She gets to be the bad girl, a little wild, got kind of drunk, naked in bed with some guy, ended up not having sex (what is up with the gratuitous explanation of how her unshaved bush was a turn-off? I call bullshit) and she comes out of it not only not really doing anything "bad", but also sounds clearly like a woman who doesn't get laid and has no idea how to go about getting laid. Obvious inexperience (cleverly left undetailed) and a genital region which she clearly doesn't consider likely to engage in any participatory exercise anytime soon.
Then she gets the support of NOW.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 05:19:15 AM
If anything, that guy was probably in her employ. How does this story do anything but enhance her reputation? She gets to be the bad girl, a little wild, got kind of drunk, naked in bed with some guy, ended up not having sex (what is up with the gratuitous explanation of how her unshaved bush was a turn-off? I call bullshit) and she comes out of it not only not really doing anything "bad", but also sounds clearly like a woman who doesn't get laid and has no idea how to go about getting laid. Obvious inexperience (cleverly left undetailed) and a genital region which she clearly doesn't consider likely to engage in any participatory exercise anytime soon.
Then she gets the support of NOW.
What I found funny about NOW's reaction is that they thought that the article would "scare women out of politics". Right, like Gabrielle Giffords or Nancy Pelosi have ever been afraid of anything in their lives.
It seems that NOW doesn't believe that women can handle the same heat that men can handle (particularly given O'Donnell's stunt on Castle, her primary opponent).
That's not the women's movement I remember from the 70s & 80s.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 05:18:23 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 03, 2010, 05:12:46 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 05:08:53 AM
"I'll answer your questions after I'm a senator."
- Christine O'Donnell
:x
*googles it*
You sure that's not Angle you're quoting?
No. I frequently confuse the two.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-13-dumbest-christine-odonnell-quotes
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm
See?
:horrormirth:
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 05:13:43 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 04:49:39 AM
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Why? How is being a naked and willing virgin more of a tease than being a naked and willing whore?
Forgot the other part of the quote: "And she made it clear that she was planning on staying a virgin that night."
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 06:32:20 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 05:13:43 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 04:49:39 AM
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Why? How is being a naked and willing virgin more of a tease than being a naked and willing whore?
Forgot the other part of the quote: "And she made it clear that she was planning on staying a virgin that night."
I thought it said "made it clear that she was not planning...."
ETA: you are correct, and I probably need new glasses...
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2010, 09:40:39 PM
Okay, I admit it, I was wrong.
Pointing out hypocrisy = "slut-shaming".
Damnit Dok, this is exactly what I meant by putting words in people's mouths. You did it to Cram, now you're doing it to me.
I did not say "Pointing out hypocrisy = "slut-shaming". I said. The guy is a shitheel.
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It's okay for O'Donnell to win the primary by lying about her primary candidate's sexual orientation, but not okay to tell the truth about her hypocrisy.
Again, didn't say it. It's not OK for O'Donnell to win by lying, its OK to talk about hypocrisy (as I've stated several times). And, the guy is still a shitheel.
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Pointing out hypocrisy is a shameful act, which lowers the person doing it to the level of curb-stompers and squads of teabagger voter intimidation squads.
Nope... didn't say it.
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It is better to be batshit politically correct, even if it means brownshirts get a free ride.
Nope, I said that I have ethics... which you seem to have morphed into that view.
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Did I get everything, Rat?
Dunno, you're the one making it up.
Quote from: Liam on November 03, 2010, 02:06:54 PM
So which one won?
Shitheel or bushy muff?
Neither. The Democratic guy Chris Coons won.
Now Ms O'Donnell can go back to drinking and dressing like a Ladybug and the shitheel can return to a life of not getting laid :lulz:
Quote from: Liam on November 03, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
Would he be the one that stayed out of the shitragging, or did he play too?
He's the poor sod that sat in shock during the debate where she wanted to know where the 'seperation of church and state' was in the Constitution. I dunno if he played any dirty pool, but I haven't heard of any. Also, he was facing Christine O'Donnell... so I think most of his ads were basically like "Vote for me... or she may actually win."
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 03, 2010, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: Liam on November 03, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
Would he be the one that stayed out of the shitragging, or did he play too?
He's the poor sod that sat in shock during the debate where she wanted to know where the 'seperation of church and state' was in the Constitution. I dunno if he played any dirty pool, but I haven't heard of any. Also, he was facing Christine O'Donnell... so I think most of his ads were basically like "Vote for me... or she may actually win."
Politician-wise, O'Donnell was the one who played dirty pool, though in the primary.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 06:32:20 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 05:13:43 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 03, 2010, 04:49:39 AM
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 04:44:39 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 29, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 29, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 28, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Why? How is being a naked and willing virgin more of a tease than being a naked and willing whore?
Forgot the other part of the quote: "And she made it clear that she was planning on staying a virgin that night."
Yes but that just means she wasn't going to allow penetration. The very next sentence:
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Exactly. Big hairy bush never turned me away from it.
Perhaps he had more to drink than he is admitting and couldn't get it to happen?
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
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Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
On the other hand, the film she had made about her opponent in the primary was utter bullshit.
It's the LBJ move...Make the bastard deny it."
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O'Donnell is a "born-again virgin", does not wax her lady parts, anonymous source reports
http://gawker.com/5674353/
I hate admitting this but she would be adorable if it weren't for the batshit crazy part.
I'd have a one-night stand with her. :lulz:
Did you miss the part of the story where she is an insufferable cocktease?
Wait, how is SHE a cocktease when he's the one who rolled over and went to sleep after taking her panties off? Sounds like the dude's the tease.
FTFA:
QuoteChristine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.
Dictionary definition of a cocktease.
Why? How is being a naked and willing virgin more of a tease than being a naked and willing whore?
Forgot the other part of the quote: "And she made it clear that she was planning on staying a virgin that night."
Yes but that just means she wasn't going to allow penetration. The very next sentence:
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
That's why I said he made the comment just to demean her. If I had to guess, either he had beer dick or he wasn't into heavy naked non-penetrating play.
Or he has pubephobia.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 03, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
On the other hand, the film she had made about her opponent in the primary was utter bullshit.
It's the LBJ move...Make the bastard deny it."
Which also makes her a shitheel on top of being ignorant and a hypocrite.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 03, 2010, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 03, 2010, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 03, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
On the other hand, the film she had made about her opponent in the primary was utter bullshit.
It's the LBJ move...Make the bastard deny it."
Which also makes her a shitheel on top of being ignorant and a hypocrite.
WELCOME TO POLITICS 101!
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 03, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
I think the whole thing is a setup and he's working for her.
Or maybe he didn't have a cigar
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 03, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
I think the whole thing is a setup and he's working for her.
She should have hired a better dude to rag on her bush then :lulz:
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Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 03, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 03, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
QuoteWhen her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.
Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest.
Also, I call bullshit. What straight man is so turned off by bush that he just loses interest at the sight of a hairy pussy?
Yeah, that part of the story was so unbelievable to me, that I ended up completely doubting the whole thing.
I think the whole thing is a setup and he's working for her.
She should have hired a better dude to rag on her bush then :lulz:
Perhaps using the phrase crotch tribble? It has the added benefit of sounding like crotch tribbing.