http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/11/AR2011031100293.html?hpid=topnews (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/11/AR2011031100293.html?hpid=topnews)
QuoteTOKYO -- Japan was struck by a magnitude-8.89 earthquake off its northeastern coast Friday, triggering a 13-foot (4-meter) tsunami that washed away cars and tore away buildings along the coast near the epicenter.
In various locations along Japan's coast, TV footage showed severe flooding, with dozens of cars, boats and even buildings being carried along by waters. A large ship swept away by the tsunami rammed directly into a breakwater in Kesennuma city in Miyagi prefecture, according to footage on public broadcaster NHK.
:aaa:
NHK Live English coverage: http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm (http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm)
CNN international live coverage: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/11/live-video-feed-8-9-earthquake-hits-japans-coast-tsunami-warnings-issued-throughout-pacific/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/11/live-video-feed-8-9-earthquake-hits-japans-coast-tsunami-warnings-issued-throughout-pacific/)
Edit - HOLY FUCK you can see the wave moving up the river.
more than 4 million buildings in tokyo and surrounding area without power.
severe massive power failure.
currently showing a chemical plant oil refinery on fire.
jesus fuck
:horrormirth:
People trapped on a train in a tunnel. No power.
video showing people being swept away. this is fucked up.
tokyo disneyland flooded. don't give a fuck.
this press statement is fucking depressing.
Friends of mine in Tokyo are safe, but they say that there a still a few aftershocks, which is freaking them out.
Quote from: Rumckle on March 11, 2011, 08:45:50 AM
Friends of mine in Tokyo are safe, but they say that there a still a few aftershocks, which is freaking them out.
As of 3:49am Eastern time there have been a total of 18 aftershocks...some as high as 7.5.
Sending positive thoughts to everyone in the pathway of the Tsunami. I hope the loss of life is at a minimum.
I always thought it be cool to jump in a kayak and surf a tsunami but fuck that shit. It doesn't even look like water, it'd be like a giant muddy scrapyard bearing down on you :eek:
Pent, what you want is a "tidal back wave" aka a Tidal Bore, water traveling upriver at the height of high tide.
The most bad ass person in WWII invented the sport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
QuoteLieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill, DSO & Bar, MC & Bar (16 September 1906 – 8 March 1996), nicknamed "Fighting Jack Churchill" and "Mad Jack", was an English soldier who fought throughout World War II armed with a longbow, arrows, and a claymore (sword). He once said "any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_surfing
:fnord::1-fap:
Jesus H. Christ.
This sucks.
What Suu said.
This shit hit so hard that Hawaii is expecting six foot waves. That's what, 3800 miles of ocean away?
I hate that this is appropriate:
TURN ON CNN!
No, srsly. The wave should be hitting any minute now.
Merciful fuck.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42025882/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
One of their nuke plants had a shutdown of the cooling system about an hour ago, and it looks like they're not having any luck getting it fixed.
Quotean administrator at the Tohoku Electric Power Co's Onagawa facility said the process for the cooling reactor is "not going as planned," adding that "nuclear emergency situation" has been declared.
GAH. Wonder what repercussions the Left Coast well get due to this epic tragedy...
ETA: NM: just found out from my colleague who lives here with me that we have a tsunami warning of our own in effect till 8:41 Pacific time. Lovely.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Tsunami-Warning-Issued-for-San-Diego-County-117788469.html
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Merciful fuck.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42025882/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
One of their nuke plants had a shutdown of the cooling system about an hour ago, and it looks like they're not having any luck getting it fixed.
Quotean administrator at the Tohoku Electric Power Co's Onagawa facility said the process for the cooling reactor is "not going as planned," adding that "nuclear emergency situation" has been declared.
You gotta wonder what kind of mentality builds a nuclear reactor on a fault line. Actually, scratch that, I don't gotta wonder, it was people did it, right?
:facepalm:
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
Those poor people. :cry: An 8.9 in the scale. WTF?
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Merciful fuck.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42025882/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
One of their nuke plants had a shutdown of the cooling system about an hour ago, and it looks like they're not having any luck getting it fixed.
Quotean administrator at the Tohoku Electric Power Co's Onagawa facility said the process for the cooling reactor is "not going as planned," adding that "nuclear emergency situation" has been declared.
I don't know that it was ON the fault line. An 8.9 is gonna rattle shit for a LONG way away.
You gotta wonder what kind of mentality builds a nuclear reactor on a fault line. Actually, scratch that, I don't gotta wonder, it was people did it, right?
:facepalm:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
I'm not an engineer but I'm guessing those are somewhow quake/tsunami proof?
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
I'm not an engineer but I'm guessing those are somewhow quake/tsunami proof?
Not so much as they don't tend to run away when the cooling pumps take a shit.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
I'm not an engineer but I'm guessing those are somewhow quake/tsunami proof?
I'm not sure there's much of anything that's 8.9 proof...
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
I'm not an engineer but I'm guessing those are somewhow quake/tsunami proof?
I'm not sure there's much of anything that's 8.9 proof...
Scottish lite beer.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
Not as far as I can tell.
Though Toshiba did build the whole thing. Which means, if my laptop is anything to go by, the buildings there will be durable as hell, and surprisingly affordable considering the going market rate.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
I'm not an engineer but I'm guessing those are somewhow quake/tsunami proof?
I'm not sure there's much of anything that's 8.9 proof...
Scottish lite beer.
Okay now you're just being ridiculous. Scotish tapwater is twice that ffs :argh!:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
Might be an old reactor? Though, people tend to freak out when something goes wrong with a nuke plant, even when it's something the plant was designed to deal with, I still her people mention 3 mile island as a reason nuclear energy is a bad idea ffs.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/11/tsunami/index.html?hpt=Sbin
Hawaii.
Its not that old.
It has systems designed to knock it offline in the event of an earthquake, which have worked before. However, the plant has in the past been told its performance is not satisfactory and had problems with leaking pipes and pressure control.
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/11/tsunami/index.html?hpt=Sbin
Hawaii.
QuoteForecasters said some areas may see waves of up to 9 feet.
Is there something about Hawaii's geography that would make a 9 foot wave worth bothering about? If it's an island, surely they get that kind of shit all the time?
I'm assuming it's "9 feet above normal", or rather than a relatively small 9' wave that crashes and recedes, it's a 9' wave that never stops crashing.
A lot of oceanfront property in Hawaii is like any other coastal developed area--folks have their shit all over the shore. So you'll see infrastructure literally washed away. Now, this is at their own peril, of course, since hurricanes etc. tend to wash shit away from shore all the time.
9' above normal sea levels in addition to waves of that size hitting over and over and over again. The beach erosion is going to be severe.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 12:38:38 PM
I always thought it be cool to jump in a kayak and surf a tsunami but fuck that shit. It doesn't even look like water, it'd be like a giant muddy scrapyard bearing down on you :eek:
Seriously. Looking at the pics it's like a wall of non stop shit.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 11, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
I hope Belgium is okay.
Anyway, that reactor thing. I thought they used pebble bed reactors there?
Might be an old reactor? Though, people tend to freak out when something goes wrong with a nuke plant, even when it's something the plant was designed to deal with, I still her people mention 3 mile island as a reason nuclear energy is a bad idea ffs.
Because the backup safeties
worked. :lulz:
Quote from: Richter on March 11, 2011, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 12:38:38 PM
I always thought it be cool to jump in a kayak and surf a tsunami but fuck that shit. It doesn't even look like water, it'd be like a giant muddy scrapyard bearing down on you :eek:
Seriously. Looking at the pics it's like a wall of non stop shit.
Troof! It's also not even like a wave, I've never seen footage of one piling up and breaking which should happen when it hits shallows. Do tsunamis not work like this? I'ma have to hit wikipedia...
9 Foot is Thunderstorm Aftermath waves on a good day at a great break spot. As a native, it's not the first set of waves you have to worry about, tho.
Some of the aftershocks, while smaller waves travel faster, and you can get fucking weird synergistics out there in the open ocean. Rouge freak tsunami have hit before.
Makes a bit more sense now.
QuoteExcept for the very largest tsunamis, the approaching wave does not break (like a surf break), but rather appears like a fast moving tidal bore.[16] Open bays and coastlines adjacent to very deep water may shape the tsunami further into a step-like wave with a steep-breaking front.
QuoteExcept for the very largest tsunamis
Of course now I want to see pics/video of one of these "very largest" motherfuckers :aaa:
Oh fuck yeah! I love the internet (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1585294/big_wave_surfing_a_tribute_to_tsunami_surfers)
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
Oh fuck yeah! I love the internet (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1585294/big_wave_surfing_a_tribute_to_tsunami_surfers)
And here I thought the JackAss crew were idiots....
Aaaaand the first nutjob theory arises: it's because of Astrology.
http://www.tarot.com/blog/?p=1010
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 11, 2011, 03:24:12 PM
Aaaaand the first nutjob theory arises: it's because of Astrology.
http://www.tarot.com/blog/?p=1010
Damn, I lost a bet. I thought they'd blame it on the homosexuals, first.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 11, 2011, 03:24:12 PM
Aaaaand the first nutjob theory arises: it's because of Astrology.
http://www.tarot.com/blog/?p=1010
When we saw this on the news this morning, my oldest said.... "Watch, someone is going to blame this on that moon thing happening on the 19th"......
I personally blame Deepak Chopra, after all he claimed responsibility for that quake in Haiti, I'm going to blame all earthquakes on him now!!!
I'd like to think between this quake and the one in New Zealand that the Pacific Plate is getting too much friction right now so when the pressure is released that there's a several amount of horizontal slippage...but who am I kidding? That's just science.
THANKS A LOT, OBAMA! :crankey:
THIS JUST IN: TEABAGGERS SAY TSUNAMI HITTING HAWAII IS OBAMA'S FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE.
NO TECTONIC PUN INTENDED.
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
THIS JUST IN: TEABAGGERS SAY TSUNAMI HITTING HAWAII IS OBAMA'S FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE.
NO TECTONIC PUN INTENDED.
YOU SAID HE WAS BORN IN KENYA DAMMIT MAKE UP YOUR MIND :argh!:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 11, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
THIS JUST IN: TEABAGGERS SAY TSUNAMI HITTING HAWAII IS OBAMA'S FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE.
NO TECTONIC PUN INTENDED.
YOU SAID HE WAS BORN IN KENYA DAMMIT MAKE UP YOUR MIND :argh!:
HAWAII IS PART OF JAPAN, RITE?
...Waiting for waves to hit CA right now. This is sickening. Fortunately they clocked 7-9 waves in HI, so CA shouldn't be worse. Though, stranger shit can happen.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 11, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
THIS JUST IN: TEABAGGERS SAY TSUNAMI HITTING HAWAII IS OBAMA'S FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE.
NO TECTONIC PUN INTENDED.
YOU SAID HE WAS BORN IN KENYA DAMMIT MAKE UP YOUR MIND :argh!:
No, that's birthers. They're a subset of nitwit.
8.9 on which scale?
OH, YEAH.
THE RICHTER SCALE.
DEAR RICHTER,
STOP KILLING JAPANESE PEOPLE.
KTHXBYE.
They just had a stream up from Oregon on CNN and took it down. It didn't look good.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Map_of_Sendai_Earthquake_2011.jpg/781px-Map_of_Sendai_Earthquake_2011.jpg)
MORE LIKE "WHERE RICHTER'S VINDALOO SHIT EXITED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET".
I do hope they tightened their sphincters.
JENNE REPORTING FROM WEST BANK AMURRICA:
Sitation holding. Fog in San Diego has not lifted yet. Nothing yet to see, Folks.
Move along. Move along.
But in all seriousness: I'd take a realtime photo from my backyard that faces due West with an oceanview, but there's seriously nothing to see--can't see Catalina island yet. I'm sure our local stations are wetting themselves over this, but I can't watch just yet b/c I'm working.
My girlfriend, as graveyard sup, had to call and advise a bunch of the coastal inns to evacuate.
We got a Huge set of waves, with a little bit of a pull-out ("psuedo-low-tide") beforehand.
We'll see, but it looks pretty chill so far.
It did trigger 4.5 off the Southeast coast of the Big Island (Hawaii), near the new volcano on the sea floor.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Map_of_Sendai_Earthquake_2011.jpg/781px-Map_of_Sendai_Earthquake_2011.jpg)
MORE LIKE "WHERE RICHTER'S VINDALOO SHIT EXITED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET".
SOME PEOPLE CALL IT R'LYEH
SOME PEOPLE CALL IT AN EXIT WOUND.
I CALL IT THE "MORNING CONSTITUTIONAL"
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
8.9 on which scale?
OH, YEAH.
THE RICHTER SCALE.
DEAR RICHTER,
STOP KILLING JAPANESE PEOPLE.
KTHXBYE.
Now if they'd stopped to notice, I farted out "BANZAI" in morse code. Hope I translated right.
Oh shit, I think I just snorted coffee out of my nose. When asked whether the US military would help in Japan, CNN Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr responded:
Quote from: Barbara Starr, political analyst with a goldfish like memoryOur military doesn't intervene in foreign countries unless they're asked for help.
Well, this is a pretty good explanation as to why shit happening in Japan/Indonesia has small effects on us here in So Cal (I live about 30 mi from that San Onofre Power Plant, btw):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/mar/10/tsunami-huge-japanese-quake-wont-affect-california/?sciquest
QuoteBut it is unlikely that the event will cause any damage here, or even be noticeable. Small tsunami waves have rolled into Southern California before, including 1.4' waves that were generated by a Chilean tsunami last year. But this region has never been hit by a large tsunami.
"We are in a different tectonic region than Japan or Cascadia or Indonesia," Frank Vernon, a research seismologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, said early today. "We have strike-slip faults earthquakes. The main fault (San Andreas) is inland from us. The major faults in japan and Cascadia and Indonesia are offshore where, where the tsunamis can be generated."
Even so, authorities are urging caution about the tsunami, which started on the seafloor, about 5,800 miles northwest of San Diego.
With the coast fogged in, people hoping to see any major waves are being advised to stay home. Maurice Luque, spokesman for San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said there are no closures related to the coming waves, adding people concerned about the waves should not call 911, but instead can dial 619-570-1070 for information.
Energy from the tsunami will arrive in San Diego County about 45 minutes after low tide. And the tsunami will arrive when the local wind-generated surf is only in the 2' to 3' range. The tsunami could add to the size of those waves, or come in as individual waves. The change is likely to be subtle, if noticeable at all, and it may occur while there's still patchy fog on the coast.
The ocean surge would pose no danger to the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station, according to a statement issued by Southern California Edison, which operates the power plant in northern San Diego County, near the Orange County line.
"The plant's protective measures include a reinforced tsunami wall 30 feet above sea level," said company spokesman Gil Alexander in the written statement.
The news of tsunami waves heading this way does not appear to be a major worry yet, at least for San Diego's surfing community.
"Obviously, I'm going out surfing so this is not much of a concern," Scott Olson of Clairemont said at 6:30 a.m. today. " If there had been big waves in Hawaii, I might have thought differently."
What's that you say? Why yes! The GOP Budget Proposal does cut funding for Tsunami monitoring. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/03/11/gop-s-continuing-resolution-cuts-funding-for-national-weather-service-fema.aspx)
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
Oh shit, I think I just snorted coffee out of my nose. When asked whether the US military would help in Japan, CNN Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr responded:
Quote from: Barbara Starr, political analyst with a goldfish like memoryOur military doesn’t intervene in foreign countries unless they’re asked for help.
Uh...*snorts in a Beavis & Butthead way*...she's a class A idjit. Wow.
Natural disasters of this magnitude are just sad.
Also the bit about Barbara Starr-WTF? Really? I mean Really???
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
Oh shit, I think I just snorted coffee out of my nose. When asked whether the US military would help in Japan, CNN Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr responded:
Quote from: Barbara Starr, political analyst with a goldfish like memoryOur military doesn't intervene in foreign countries unless they're asked for help.
That hurt my brain.
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
They just had a stream up from Oregon on CNN and took it down. It didn't look good.
That's normal here. Has nothing to do with the "tsunami" (srsly, a 9-foot wave is NOT a tsunami) and everything to do with all the meth labs on the coast that use cow poop for combustible fuel.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 11, 2011, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
They just had a stream up from Oregon on CNN and took it down. It didn't look good.
That's normal here. Has nothing to do with the "tsunami" (srsly, a 9-foot wave is NOT a tsunami) and everything to do with all the meth labs on the coast that use cow poop for combustible fuel.
Oh. So it always looks like a flooded shithole? Gotcha.
Actually, not much is happening. The water did recede a bit and the cops went in and pulled everyone off the beach. There's a guy out there surfing. I'm surprised there aren't more idiots in California.
The powers-that-be have been working on clearing the beaches since o'dark-thirty. That's why there aren't more idjits out there surfing. ...and then there are the people that surf SPECIFICALLY when there IS a tsunami.
Point Break, anyone? :lulz:
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 11, 2011, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 11, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
They just had a stream up from Oregon on CNN and took it down. It didn't look good.
That's normal here. Has nothing to do with the "tsunami" (srsly, a 9-foot wave is NOT a tsunami) and everything to do with all the meth labs on the coast that use cow poop for combustible fuel.
Oh. So it always looks like a flooded shithole? Gotcha.
Actually, not much is happening. The water did recede a bit and the cops went in and pulled everyone off the beach. There's a guy out there surfing. I'm surprised there aren't more idiots in California.
self solving problem. :lulz:
Seriously, everyone was pulled off the beach. It hit Santa Cruz around 6ish am, and fucked up everyone's yacht, but that's it. So far there have been no reports of anyone being hurt, or even in the boats that are now capsized, out to see, or otherwise fucked up.
tbh, I watched the time-lapsed version, and...it just looks like fast high tide.
11/3/11 West Coast Yacht Massacre.
NEVER FORGET
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 07:54:48 PM
11/3/11 West Coast Yacht Massacre.
NEVER FORGET
What is going to happen on November 3rd? You're just going to tease us with a date? :lulz:
Quote from: Khara on March 11, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 07:54:48 PM
11/3/11 West Coast Yacht Massacre.
NEVER FORGET
What is going to happen on November 3rd? You're just going to tease us with a date? :lulz:
European date format. Date/Month/Year.
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: Khara on March 11, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 07:54:48 PM
11/3/11 West Coast Yacht Massacre.
NEVER FORGET
What is going to happen on November 3rd? You're just going to tease us with a date? :lulz:
European date format. Date/Month/Year.
I'm going to try and stop being funny from this point forward.... :|
Quote from: Khara on March 11, 2011, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: Khara on March 11, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2011, 07:54:48 PM
11/3/11 West Coast Yacht Massacre.
NEVER FORGET
What is going to happen on November 3rd? You're just going to tease us with a date? :lulz:
European date format. Date/Month/Year.
I'm going to try and stop being funny from this point forward.... :|
For what it's worth, Khara's post made me chuckle.
:oops:
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
:oops:
It's ok, people take me for stupid all the time. I'm used to it. :)
Quote from: Khara on March 11, 2011, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
:oops:
It's ok, people take me for stupid all the time. I'm used to it. :)
Nah, I get smacked with that one all the time. I do payroll at a university with a ton of foreign students, a lot of which used the bass-ackwards date format, which, when I'm tired (like I am today), I screw up and get all boggled over. MOST days I remember before I call the supervisor to ask why the fuck they're sending me timesheets six months old.
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/ ~~> cool place to check this shit out at
Sorry if is repost.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help
There's a few links in this page for donations, which is what they really need, not verbalized thoughts to deities pleading for help..
Although it's a nice thought to pray.
I blame the Irish.
Reactor is melting down. Cesium detected outside the core.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2?ShowComments=0 (http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2?ShowComments=0)
They're evacuating 20km radius from it. Leak confirmed.
Fuck.
Edit: Found this image of the explosion from the nuclear power plant
(http://i.imgur.com/syu6K.jpg)
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
I know some exchange students from Fukushima. I bet they and their families aren't having a great time right now. : /
http://www.viceland.com/wp/2011/03/tsunami-vs-pearl-harbor/
Some idiots on the internet are still butthurt about Pearl Harbour.
Presumably, when the next natural crisis hits the USA, killing potentially thousands of people, this means Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam will be allowed to celebrate it.
At first I get angry, I want to hurt people, kill them even but then I remember - having to be as stupid as that is infinitely more cruel than any torture I could devise. :lulz:
Humanity. Anything to rationalize being a nasty, small minded cunt.
http://i.imgur.com/sfrkK.jpg
Has anyone seen this shit. Ugh, utter contempt rises from within, I hope it's enough to convince godzilla to tentacle rape these people.
Wait.
Pearl Harbor was nuked? :lulz:
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on March 12, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sfrkK.jpg
Has anyone seen this shit. Ugh, utter contempt rises from within, I hope it's enough to convince godzilla to tentacle rape these people.
Misuse of "karma" all over the fucking place. Those people need a swift kick in the junk. BTW, why are they blaming Japan for that shitty movie with Ben Affleck? Sure, they provided the historical basis, and I agree that SOMEONE needs to be punished for it, but Hollywood, not Japan.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
Wait.
Pearl Harbor was nuked? :lulz:
And Krauts live in Japan. :lulz:
:asplode:
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 09:46:03 PM
Misuse of "karma" all over the fucking place. Those people need a swift kick in the junk. BTW, why are they blaming Japan for that shitty movie with Ben Affleck? Sure, they provided the historical basis, and I agree that SOMEONE needs to be punished for it, but Hollywood, not Japan.
No, no. Karma is the thing that fucks up your enemies for being mean to you while you watch and laugh, for similar reasons as those God chose to wait all this time for surprise revenge.
Quote from: Farka Zarcoberg on March 12, 2011, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 09:46:03 PM
Misuse of "karma" all over the fucking place. Those people need a swift kick in the junk. BTW, why are they blaming Japan for that shitty movie with Ben Affleck? Sure, they provided the historical basis, and I agree that SOMEONE needs to be punished for it, but Hollywood, not Japan.
No, no. Karma is the thing that fucks up your enemies for being mean to you while you watch and laugh, for similar reasons as those God chose to wait all this time for surprise revenge.
So, are you saying that 70 years from now Hollywood will be devastated by a Tsunami for making that utter atrocity? So I can watch and laugh?
Poor Japan. They already have a national phobia of radiation.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: Farka Zarcoberg on March 12, 2011, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 09:46:03 PM
Misuse of "karma" all over the fucking place. Those people need a swift kick in the junk. BTW, why are they blaming Japan for that shitty movie with Ben Affleck? Sure, they provided the historical basis, and I agree that SOMEONE needs to be punished for it, but Hollywood, not Japan.
No, no. Karma is the thing that fucks up your enemies for being mean to you while you watch and laugh, for similar reasons as those God chose to wait all this time for surprise revenge.
So, are you saying that 70 years from now Hollywood will be devastated by a Tsunami for making that utter atrocity? So I can watch and laugh?
I'd mention it to your Rain God now, just to make sure it's on the To Do list.
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3268/tsunamiz.jpg)
ETA: Phox is a cunt sometimes.... :lulz:
http://ignorantandonline.tumblr.com/
More ugh.
Also: CNN: Meltdown may be underway.
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on March 12, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
http://ignorantandonline.tumblr.com/
*bangs head on keyboard*
FFS what the fuck is wrong with the thought process of those posts.?.
I'd say there wasn't one
Reports are stating that not only did the quake move Japan's coastline 8 feet, it shifted the Earth on it's axis by four inches.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth/index.html
Over 10,000 missing, at least 1700 confirmed dead, and I just saw a very disturbing video of a huge tidal wave of black water engulfing loads of stuff that oughtn't be engulfed, as well as seemingly folding a boat in order to pull it under a bridge ... damn.
At least it seems the nuclear situation isn't as critical as feared. They evacuated loads of people. handing out preventive iodine tablets, but even if the thing goes into complete meltdown (which it probably won't) it'll never be a second Chernobyl, because (I'm not 100% clear) it was not a "fast" reactor, or because it was in a cooling-down phase when it happened.
Except for those damn Germans. Maybe I got the wrong impression, but I thought what they did was really tasteless. See, their previous government had a lot of power to the green party and manages to push a brilliant plan to make Germany nuclear-free by 2020 or 2030 or so (whether this actually is a good idea or not is not important now). Except now they got a new gvmt that's a bit more right-wing and naturally they're backing out of the long-term plans. So the Greenies are mad as fuck and have been protesting and shit and nuclear power is a huge theme in Germany anyway, and (according to my gf) they're in fact really an easily-scared bunch of people.
So guess what those fucking green vultures were doing yesterday evening? Yeah that's right, they grabbed the maybe-exploding nuclear facility in Japan as an opportunity to once more emphasize the DANGERS and SCARYNESS and HORRIBLE DANGER DISASTER BWEEP BWEEP BWEEP BOOP and oh yeah 10,000 people are missing and 1700 confirmed dead and tsunamis and DID WE MENTION NUCLEAR POWER IS BAD? CHECK OUT THIS STOCK FOOTAGE OF HORRIBLE SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN CHER - NO - BY - LL AND HA - RIS - BUR - G-G-G-G-G AND SE - LA - FIEL - D-D-D-D (oh yes they were playing the relevant Kraftwerk tune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactivity_(song)), which was the only good thing, and they were nice enough to not mention to line about HI - RO - SHI - MA which of course has nothing to do with nuclear reactors)
Anyway, it's one thing if you were going to have a theme night about the dangers of nuclear power, but it's another thing if you're gonna abuse a terrible catastrophic event and ride the attention to push your political agenda (which is about the nuclear energy program in Germany and has nothing to do with the aftermath of a natural disaster in Japan).
And oh yeah, 10,000 missing, over 1700 confirmed dead, 215,000 in emergency shelters.
Oh and ONE OTHER THING. Something I learned only after I gave some monies to Haiti. Understand that you want to give money, the horror is all in your face right there on TV, so yeah give, but PLEASE ALSO give the SAME AMOUNT to some random other good cause that's combating al least as terrible horrors on this planet but doesn't have the good fortune of catching the global media's eye, and maybe never will.
(I dunno, probably somewhere there's women being raped systematically or people being tortured, kids scavenging garbage mountains, that kind of stuff, nobody wants to look at, just split it 50/50 with Japan)
Quote from: Luna on March 13, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Reports are stating that not only did the quake move Japan's coastline 8 feet, it shifted the Earth on it's axis by four inches.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth/index.html
Plate tectonics: You cannot run fast enough.
Also, the comments section is hurting my brain.
EARTHQUAKES AREN'T CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING.
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 13, 2011, 12:23:16 PM
Over 10,000 missing, at least 1700 confirmed dead, and I just saw a very disturbing video of a huge tidal wave of black water engulfing loads of stuff that oughtn't be engulfed, as well as seemingly folding a boat in order to pull it under a bridge ... damn.
At least it seems the nuclear situation isn't as critical as feared. They evacuated loads of people. handing out preventive iodine tablets, but even if the thing goes into complete meltdown (which it probably won't) it'll never be a second Chernobyl, because (I'm not 100% clear) it was not a "fast" reactor, or because it was in a cooling-down phase when it happened.
Except for those damn Germans. Maybe I got the wrong impression, but I thought what they did was really tasteless. See, their previous government had a lot of power to the green party and manages to push a brilliant plan to make Germany nuclear-free by 2020 or 2030 or so (whether this actually is a good idea or not is not important now). Except now they got a new gvmt that's a bit more right-wing and naturally they're backing out of the long-term plans. So the Greenies are mad as fuck and have been protesting and shit and nuclear power is a huge theme in Germany anyway, and (according to my gf) they're in fact really an easily-scared bunch of people.
So guess what those fucking green vultures were doing yesterday evening? Yeah that's right, they grabbed the maybe-exploding nuclear facility in Japan as an opportunity to once more emphasize the DANGERS and SCARYNESS and HORRIBLE DANGER DISASTER BWEEP BWEEP BWEEP BOOP and oh yeah 10,000 people are missing and 1700 confirmed dead and tsunamis and DID WE MENTION NUCLEAR POWER IS BAD? CHECK OUT THIS STOCK FOOTAGE OF HORRIBLE SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN CHER - NO - BY - LL AND HA - RIS - BUR - G-G-G-G-G AND SE - LA - FIEL - D-D-D-D (oh yes they were playing the relevant Kraftwerk tune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactivity_(song)), which was the only good thing, and they were nice enough to not mention to line about HI - RO - SHI - MA which of course has nothing to do with nuclear reactors)
Anyway, it's one thing if you were going to have a theme night about the dangers of nuclear power, but it's another thing if you're gonna abuse a terrible catastrophic event and ride the attention to push your political agenda (which is about the nuclear energy program in Germany and has nothing to do with the aftermath of a natural disaster in Japan).
And oh yeah, 10,000 missing, over 1700 confirmed dead, 215,000 in emergency shelters.
Oh and ONE OTHER THING. Something I learned only after I gave some monies to Haiti. Understand that you want to give money, the horror is all in your face right there on TV, so yeah give, but PLEASE ALSO give the SAME AMOUNT to some random other good cause that's combating al least as terrible horrors on this planet but doesn't have the good fortune of catching the global media's eye, and maybe never will.
(I dunno, probably somewhere there's women being raped systematically or people being tortured, kids scavenging garbage mountains, that kind of stuff, nobody wants to look at, just split it 50/50 with Japan)
That is pretty represenatative of how all major Green and Environmental parties abuse nuclear tragedies, hyping worries about reactors well beyond any reasonable level.
Admittedly, it does not help when scientists, politicians and regulators then take the exact opposite view.
A healthy respect for the real health risks while maintaining a robust regulatory model would negate pretty much all concerns, if a government had the self-discipline to not let the energy sector lead it around by the nose constantly.
Quote from: maphdet on March 12, 2011, 11:12:15 PM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on March 12, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
http://ignorantandonline.tumblr.com/
*bangs head on keyboard*
FFS what the fuck is wrong with the thought process of those posts.?.
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/avatar_bc5c1e9eefdc_128.png) :lulz:
My dad is convinced Japan is doomed and that the meltdown will reach all the way to the west coast thanks to Fox News :argh!:
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on March 13, 2011, 06:00:43 PM
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
No, the worst part is the jackasses who rant about how this is "payback" for "nuking Pearl Harbor". <--- Not kidding. Someone said that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 13, 2011, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on March 13, 2011, 06:00:43 PM
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
No, the worst part is the jackasses who rant about how this is "payback" for "nuking Pearl Harbor". <--- Not kidding. Someone said that.
Hah. No, that's actually funny, in that most horrible way. Dumbasses.
I find the tsunami itself to be utterly devoid of humour, but the Pearl Harbor people are another story entirely.
Maybe the difference is that the latter is human stupidity.
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2011, 03:11:52 PM
That is pretty represenatative of how all major Green and Environmental parties abuse nuclear tragedies, hyping worries about reactors well beyond any reasonable level.
I haven't heard the Dutch one (GroenLinks) about it yet, not on national TV and also not on their many blogs (don't normally read them, just found a site (http://planeetgroenlinks.nl) that combines many of the blogs of people in the green party). Most talked about the human tragedy, and only one said "I hope the natural disaster doesn't turn into a nuclear one as well", which is fine.
In fact, if they'd capitalize on this tragedy in order to push their anti-nuclear agenda, I think it would widely be considered to be in very bad taste.
Cultural differences, I guess. It's still going on ZDF. My gf says this is just the way German news reporting works, lots of fear-mongering, or something.
It's interesting if you compare Guardian.co.uk and Spiegel.de front pages, both leftist news sources. It's not as bad as it was earlier today and yesterday, but the difference in focus is still there (for Spiegel, AKW = Atom Kraftwerk = Nuclear Powerplant).
Actually, never mind, the more I check both pages, the more it's evening out with time.
QuoteAdmittedly, it does not help when scientists, politicians and regulators then take the exact opposite view.
A healthy respect for the real health risks while maintaining a robust regulatory model would negate pretty much all concerns, if a government had the self-discipline to not let the energy sector lead it around by the nose constantly.
Yep, no disagreement there.
I'm of the opinion that, while it would have been nice not to have any nuclear reactors, we're not exactly on track with developing alternative energy sources and as long as they don't explode, nuclear power doesn't really pollute all that much (mostly just disrupting the ecosystem by dumping large amounts of warm water in places that should be colder, afaik).
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on March 13, 2011, 06:00:43 PM
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
Chernobyl was not only poorly designed, it had the safeties turned off.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 13, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on March 13, 2011, 06:00:43 PM
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
Chernobyl was not only poorly designed, it had the safeties turned off.
So yeah, when things are done right, a nuclear meltdown is costly, locally dangerous, and a mess to clean up, but not a total environmental disaster/carcinogenic catastrophe.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 13, 2011, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on March 13, 2011, 06:00:43 PM
It's a good thing that most nuclear power plants have safeties installed so that during a nuclear meltdown, the core actually melts around and seals the reactive material in place. This is what's supposed to happen. Chernobyl was poorly designed.
The worse part is listening to all these idiots PRAYING for the Japanese. Fuck you and your nonexistant non-interfering deity of choice. Either you can send money for international aid or resign yourself that there's not a damn thing you can do to help. Fucking ghouls.
No, the worst part is the jackasses who rant about how this is "payback" for "nuking Pearl Harbor". <--- Not kidding. Someone said that.
Not just one:
http://i.imgur.com/sfrkK.jpg
:lulz:
Here's what happened in my hometown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Wh0_yNJhc
The pier underwater:
(http://www.hawaii247.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TsunamiKailuaPier.jpg)
And the Aftermath:
(http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/62911/photos/PHOTO_13275743_62911_22987692_ap.jpg)
Quote from: Telarus on March 14, 2011, 01:10:16 AM
Here's what happened in my hometown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Wh0_yNJhc
The pier underwater:
(http://www.hawaii247.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TsunamiKailuaPier.jpg)
And the Aftermath:
(http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/62911/photos/PHOTO_13275743_62911_22987692_ap.jpg)
:x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vLCuiwP_0&feature=feedu
So...
...Radioactive death cloud, or no radioactive death cloud?
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 01:56:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vLCuiwP_0&feature=feedu
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
The situation in Japan is horrible as it is, but to imagine if something of the same magnitude happened in an underdeveloped country, or even America (which doesn't have a shining reputation when it comes to disaster management) is scary.
I'm glad that my Japanese friends and their families are all mostly OK though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oNEIj7EmNo&feature=feedu
[X] Radioactive death cloud
[ ] no radioactive death cloud
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2011, 01:57:35 AM
So...
...Radioactive death cloud, or no radioactive death cloud?
There appears to have been some venting of mildly radioactive coolant, but so far no reports of any nuclear fuel escaping.
James Bond villain volcano lair just erupted.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/03/13/2011-03-13_hundreds_flee_in_japan_after_shinmoedake_volcano_begins_spewing_ash_boulders.html
:x
"wow poetic justice that is very weird tou aint it thou these past two weeks just aint been there best weeks"
\
:redneck2:
^P@yT0n_B@K3R, a clever commentator on the subject.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2011, 01:57:35 AM
So...
...Radioactive death cloud, or no radioactive death cloud?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/14plume.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/14plume.html?_r=1)
QuoteThe Pentagon was expected to announce that the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan, which is sailing in the Pacific, passed through a radioactive cloud from stricken nuclear reactors in Japan, causing crew members on deck to receive a month's worth of radiation in about an hour, government officials said Sunday. The officials added that American helicopters flying missions about 60 miles north of the damaged reactors became coated with particulate radiation that had to be washed off.
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3268/tsunamiz.jpg)
ETA: Phox is a cunt sometimes.... :lulz:
I lol'd at the first idiot that bit on that.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on March 14, 2011, 06:23:11 AM
James Bond villain volcano lair just erupted.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/03/13/2011-03-13_hundreds_flee_in_japan_after_shinmoedake_volcano_begins_spewing_ash_boulders.html
Jumpin' Jesus. :horrormirth:
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on March 14, 2011, 07:54:15 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 12, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3268/tsunamiz.jpg)
ETA: Phox is a cunt sometimes.... :lulz:
I lol'd at the first idiot that bit on that.
:lulz:
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li0vnjLRLg1qh25w2o1_500.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=channel_video_title
Holy shit.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=channel_video_title
Holy shit.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
Feh, she got lucky.
Somebody is always predicting disaster, when disaster happens somebody has to be right.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=channel_video_title
Holy shit.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
Feh, she got lucky.
Somebody is always predicting disaster, when disaster happens somebody has to be right.
True, but the fact that she predicted an earthquake kind of weirds me out.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=channel_video_title
Holy shit.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
Feh, she got lucky.
Somebody is always predicting disaster, when disaster happens somebody has to be right.
True, but the fact that she predicted an earthquake kind of weirds me out.
I just watched it out of reluctance to get out of bed, and she completely lost me with this statement:
Quote...because I also had a vision. Jesus showed me the numbers 22 and 23. So, if it doesn't happen this weekend, it could happen around the 22nd...
And then she ends her video with the trailers to 2012 and Battle: LA. Bitch be crazy.
Second reactor just asploded.
It starts:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/japan-radiation-leak-cover-up (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/japan-radiation-leak-cover-up)
QuoteNuclear experts have thrown doubt on the accuracy of official information issued about the Fukushima nuclear accident, saying that it followed a pattern of secrecy and cover-ups employed in other nuclear accidents. "It's impossible to get any radiation readings," said John Large, an independent nuclear engineer who has worked for the UK government and been commissioned to report on the accident for Greenpeace International.
"The actions of the Japanese government are completely contrary to their words. They have evacuated 180,000 people but say there is no radiation. They are certain to have readings but we are being told nothing." He said a radiation release was suspected "but at the moment it is impossible to know. It was the same at Chernobyl, where they said there was a bit of a problem and only later did the full extent emerge."
According to some reports, 17 helicopter crewmen helping in rescue efforts were contaminated with low-level radiation, but Japanese officials declined to comment.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
Jesus.
Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on March 15, 2011, 02:38:59 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
Jesus.
:|
Fucking wow. :x
4th reactor now on fire.
Is it chernobyl yet?
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/stay-indoors-japan-pm-issues-warning-to-residents-after-blast-at-nuclear-plant-20110315-1buq7.html (http://www.smh.com.au/environment/stay-indoors-japan-pm-issues-warning-to-residents-after-blast-at-nuclear-plant-20110315-1buq7.html)
QuoteHarmful radiation at levels 20 times the annual limit is spewing from Japan's quake-hit Fukushima No.1 atomic power plant after a fire broke out at its number-four reactor, authorities say.
:x :x :x :x
this is now an unending, constantly escalating, god damned greek tragedy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/world/asia/15fuel.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/world/asia/15fuel.html?_r=1)
QuoteEven as workers race to prevent the radioactive cores of the damaged nuclear reactors in Japan from melting down, concerns are growing that nearby pools holding spent fuel rods could pose an even greater danger.
The pools, which sit on the top level of the reactor buildings and keep spent fuel submerged in water, have lost their cooling systems and the Japanese have been unable to take emergency steps because of the multiplying crises.
Experts now fear that the pool containing those rods from the fourth reactor has run dry, allowing the rods to overheat and catch fire. That could spread radioactive materials far and wide in dangerous clouds.
The pools are a worry at the stricken reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant because at least two of the three have lost their roofs in explosions, exposing the spent fuel pools to the atmosphere. By contrast, reactors have strong containment vessels that stand a better chance of bottling up radiation from a meltdown of the fuel in the reactor core.
If any of the spent fuel rods in the pools did indeed catch fire, nuclear experts say, the high heat would loft the radiation in clouds that would spread the radioactivity.
That's fucking it.
Quote from: Da6s on March 15, 2011, 08:19:18 AM
this is now an unending, constantly escalating, god damned greek tragedy
Yeah, it's kind of hard to believe. Earthquake, tsunami, volcanic eruption, nuclear catastrophe in the making....what next?
51 Photographs:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/japan_-_vast_devastation.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1
Oops.
QuoteSpent fuel rods containing radioactive material may have burned in Tuesday's fire at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant -- causing a spike in radiation levels, the plant's owner said.
Whether this is truth or coverup, no idea.
Quote from: Da6s on March 15, 2011, 04:51:46 AM
4th reactor now on fire.
Is it chernobyl yet?
well, the correspondent from japan for NPR this morning used the language "
probably not as bad as chernobyl"...
that raised my eyebrows.
NPR doesn't usually engage in hyperbole.
Okay, Japan, it was funny the first few times. You have to know when to stop. Timing is everything.
This sounds like the run-up to a William Gibson novel.
Quote from: Iptuous on March 15, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Da6s on March 15, 2011, 04:51:46 AM
4th reactor now on fire.
Is it chernobyl yet?
well, the correspondent from japan for NPR this morning used the language "probably not as bad as chernobyl"...
that raised my eyebrows.
NPR doesn't usually engage in hyperbole.
From what I've heard and understand, a major difference between these plants and Chernobyl is the construction of the facilities. The buildings in Japan, structurally, seem to have much more integrity compared to what was in Chernobyl. If they had been constructed in the same manner as Chernobyl, they probably would've disintegrated pretty quickly.
It shouldn't be as bad as Chernobyl, all things considered. Japan has been preparing for this kind of event, structurally, for a long time now, and if they weren't ready for it, the death toll would already have been a magnitude higher, is what I've read. And Chernobyl was a mess. Rushed construction and overzealous stress testing.
blaaaaaahh :sad:
I've been against nuclear power since I first heard about it. It's not that I don't believe it's possible, in theory, to create a safe nuclear reactor, it's because I know that human beings aren't capable of doing it. What concerns me isn't Homer simpson at the controls - he may be a dumb fuck, on minimum wage but he knows what'll happen if he doesn't watch the dial. No - it's the ones who sit in offices thousands of miles away leaving no corner left uncut in the quest for maximised revenue. They're the reason there aren't enough Homers to watch all the dials. They're the reason that the walls aren't quite thick enough. They're the reason the backup systems run into disrepair.
Sooner or later pretty much all the reactors will blow up or "melt down" to put it into fluffy aint-so-bad-speak. So right now it looks like a good quarter to a third of Japan is going to be wiped off the map. The ones in charge of making sure this doesn't happen ever again are, unfortunately, highly paid homo-sapiens whose appetite for cold hard cash far exceeds their sense of doing what's right.
There is a simple solution - everyone involved in the construction and operation of a nuke plant should be forced to live within a couple of miles of the place. Might not work 100% but it may stave off the inevitable a tad longer.
AHHH YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME PARANOID THAT MY BOYFRIEND IS GOING TO TURN INTO A LUMPY RADIOACTIVE GODZILLA MAN :x :x :x
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on March 15, 2011, 07:28:39 PM
AHHH YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME PARANOID THAT MY BOYFRIEND IS GOING TO TURN INTO A LUMPY RADIOACTIVE GODZILLA MAN :x :x :x
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no no its ok do your horrormirth. IT IS YOUR CALLING.
The death toll at Chernobyl was less than a hundred people.
It's predicted another 4000 with get thyroid cancer (this takes time, if the downwinders in south Utah are any indication), but that hasn't happened yet.
'As bad as Chernobyl' doesn't actually match the number of people already dead, let alone make it an order of magnitude worse. That was a plant that had no containment vessel of any kind and a meltdown of a runaway uranium reaction (because some dipshit thought turning off the safeties was a good idea). In this case there is both a containment vessel, and the cores were automatically shut down when the earthquake hit.
The worst case scenario at this point is that the groundwater gets contaminated (which probably won't happen even if there's a meltdown), and the people actually in the plant die (either soon or of cancer 40 years from now), one of the containment cores gets cracked in a second hydrogen explosion (which is why they evacuated) allowing for localized dispersal of highly radioactive gas, and the high level waste stored on site gets spilled (which will further contaminate the groundwater).
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/110313-N-SB672-164.jpg (http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/110313-N-SB672-164.jpg)
That's adrift in the ocean, and was photographed by the US navy.
Edit: Pic is freaking huge.
Oh god dammit:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110316/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake;_ylt=AuNq356r6rTxJVadMTCo3Rlv24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3YzUxZnQ5BHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl9icmVha2luZ19uZXdzBHNsawNicmVha2luZw-- (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110316/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake;_ylt=AuNq356r6rTxJVadMTCo3Rlv24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3YzUxZnQ5BHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl9icmVha2luZ19uZXdzBHNsawNicmVha2luZw--)
QuoteFUKUSHIMA, Japan – Japan ordered emergency workers to withdraw from its stricken nuclear plant Wednesday amid a surge in radiation, temporarily suspending efforts to cool the overheating reactors.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said the workers, who have been dousing the reactors with seawater in a frantic effort to stabilize their temperatures, had no choice but to pull back from the most dangerous areas.
"The workers cannot carry out even minimal work at the plant now," Edano said, as smoke billowed above the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex. "Because of the radiation risk we are on standby."
The nuclear crisis has triggered international alarm and partly overshadowed the human tragedy caused by Friday's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and the subsequent tsunami, a blast of black seawater that pulverized Japan's northeastern coastline. The quake was one of the strongest recorded in history.
That's all folks.
They are back in there again. The temperatures keep spiking in there so the workers need pull back, they are doing a terrific job considering the circumstances.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 14, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=channel_video_title
Holy shit.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
Feh, she got lucky.
Somebody is always predicting disaster, when disaster happens somebody has to be right.
True, but the fact that she predicted an earthquake kind of weirds me out.
Yes, because
who could have possibly predicted on a planet which suffers over 1500 earthquakes per year (on the Richter Scale 5.0 or higher) would suffer an earthquake on that particular date?
I'm more worried that, in the long term, Japan is fucked, whether or not a few hundred get enough radiation to grow extra arms.
I can't see them coming back from this, even in the medium term (ie; decades from now). Kobe never really recovered from the quake, and this is several hundred magnitudes worse.
And the impact will be global, on an economic level. Japan's economy is geared towards being a net exporter, but they were already suffering a massive trade deficit before this earthquake hit. The USA and EU need Japanese industry more than Japan needs the US or EU, but with the hit they've taken, the cost of reconstruction, the rising cost of oil etc I just can't see them financing their way out of this.
This is going to hurt.
Quote from: Cain on March 16, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
I'm more worried that, in the long term, Japan is fucked, whether or not a few hundred get enough radiation to grow extra arms.
I can't see them coming back from this, even in the medium term (ie; decades from now). Kobe never really recovered from the quake, and this is several hundred magnitudes worse.
And the impact will be global, on an economic level. Japan's economy is geared towards being a net exporter, but they were already suffering a massive trade deficit before this earthquake hit. The USA and EU need Japanese industry more than Japan needs the US or EU, but with the hit they've taken, the cost of reconstruction, the rising cost of oil etc I just can't see them financing their way out of this.
This is going to hurt.
:sad:
I've been wondering what the general thought was on their recovery. I had hoped it would be better, but wasn't really counting on it. So much destruction and loss of life. Difficult to overcome in the best of circumstances, but the situation Japan is in now. It's heartbreaking.
I think Japan WILL bounce back--it'll be a shock and a longer haul than they have been used to for a couple of generations...but I think they're still in not too bad of shape, given all else equal. The only worrying thing would be, to me, is if they couldn't sustain the survivors vis a vis food, etc. But it sounds like even there they are covered for the short term. The sheer organization of the place in face of this catastrophe-after-catastrophe is astounding. Other than the forces of nature, it seems they are able to stave of MOST of the dangers that happen after such national disasters.
...BUT...I thought they had built up many, many foreign reserves?
They bounced back remarkably well from two atomic bombs being dropped on them... could this be much worse?
Quote from: Hoopla on March 16, 2011, 03:34:40 PM
They bounced back remarkably well from two atomic bombs being dropped on them... could this be much worse?
You mean that time when the USA occupied them for a decade, gave billions in economic assistance and the government pursued an economic model which, if tried today, would put them under embargo from the IMF?
The US cannot even rebuild its own infrastructure nowadays, let alone a foreign country's. Shit, parts of Iraq still don't have running water or electricity, and even a two bit thug like Saddam could manage that.
Quote from: Jenne on March 16, 2011, 03:26:53 PM
I think Japan WILL bounce back--it'll be a shock and a longer haul than they have been used to for a couple of generations...but I think they're still in not too bad of shape, given all else equal. The only worrying thing would be, to me, is if they couldn't sustain the survivors vis a vis food, etc. But it sounds like even there they are covered for the short term. The sheer organization of the place in face of this catastrophe-after-catastrophe is astounding. Other than the forces of nature, it seems they are able to stave of MOST of the dangers that happen after such national disasters.
...BUT...I thought they had built up many, many foreign reserves?
Foreign reserves don't matter when your industrial base just got swept away on a tidal wave.
Quote from: Cain on March 16, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 16, 2011, 03:26:53 PM
I think Japan WILL bounce back--it'll be a shock and a longer haul than they have been used to for a couple of generations...but I think they're still in not too bad of shape, given all else equal. The only worrying thing would be, to me, is if they couldn't sustain the survivors vis a vis food, etc. But it sounds like even there they are covered for the short term. The sheer organization of the place in face of this catastrophe-after-catastrophe is astounding. Other than the forces of nature, it seems they are able to stave of MOST of the dangers that happen after such national disasters.
...BUT...I thought they had built up many, many foreign reserves?
Foreign reserves don't matter when your industrial base just got swept away on a tidal wave.
I was just thinking I'd like to see some figures on what parts of their industry was destroyed and what was left. I know they shut the car plants down, but that was out of caution and lack of usable resources/thoughts of letting the workers find their families and stay safe.
There's rife speculation everywhere over the news on what this will do globally, and I expect it will have a large negative impact. But I question whether Japan will be stagnant. I think they have the internal mechanism vis a vis governmental structure to get off their asses and fix shit.
I also can't figure out if the pictures on the news are prettied up or if there's worse out there we're not getting to see. Because there's a lot of bodies talked about washed ashore, and a lot of infrastructure damaged, but the survivors are in pretty damned good shape (I'm juxtaposing Haiti, Indonesia, Chile, etc, and of course Katrina as well). This is a horrible, terrible thought to have, but if you're going to get struck by this kind of ordeal and survive, it appears, for now, you're probably better off having it happen in Japan.
Of course, things can ALWAYS get worse...
Japan is already economically stagnant. 200%+ debt on the GDP, economic growth was already slanted to slow this year, persistant deflation and an aging population.
They're not in perfect shape, granted. But like I said--I'm betting not on this taking them out of the game but perhaps giving them the push-pull to move forward. Many say that's what WWII and its aftermath did for them through the 70's and into the 80's, when they hit the "high life." There are worries (amongst those who care) that China's "rise" means the death knell for innovators like the Japanese--but those "keerazy" Chinese have invested heavily in Japan's main industries (as far as Japan allows, of course).
I'm not going to pretend to know all the ins and outs of Japanese finance, security and industry. I'm just going on history, their response to this monumental clusterfuck of epic proportions, and what I hear round town. My gut just doesn't say this will end them as international contenders. But I could be wrong.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/uk-japan-quake-economy-idUKLNE72E01D20110315
QuoteJapan's earthquake has left a gaping hole in the nation's power capacity that looks set to last months, threatening to make economic recovery far more feeble than hoped.
The first rolling power cuts in the history of the giant Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) have already closed many plants, with Toyota shutting down until at least Wednesday.
Rolling three-hour blackouts have wrecked the clockwork precision of Japan's railways while a thousand schools across Tokyo cancelled classes. Even Tokyo's ubiquitous neon signs have gone dark, a big blow to confidence in a country that lives by routine and order.
With a new explosion at a nuclear plant in Fukushima threatening a far more serious radiation leak, the power shortage will not get better anytime soon.
"It looks like Japan could be in a "power down" state for a protracted period," said Stephen Roberts, Nomura's chief economist for Australia. "That's what makes it different from other major quakes."
"People tend to compare it to Kobe and assume a "v"-shaped recovery, but Kobe never caused this level of power disruption," he added. "It means any proper recovery could be delayed right out to the fourth quarter."
...
There is certainly still plenty of unused manufacturing capacity in Japan, but far less when it comes to power supply.
Analysts at Australian investment bank Macquarie estimated the earthquake and resulting tsunami took a quarter of TEPCO's total capacity of 65 gigawatts, shared between nuclear and oil.
In all some 15 nuclear plants were shut down, and it was not clear how many would re-start or when.
"We think power supply shortages and rations are likely to continue in TEPCO's supply area for months rather than weeks," the analysts wrote in a note to clients.
And the growing crisis at the Fukushima plant brings into question Japan's whole experiment with nuclear power, which provides about one-third of total generating capacity.
...
Nomura's Stephens said there was perhaps scope to ramp up power output at some of Japan's oil and coal plants, though at great extra cost. Japan's increased demand for coal, oil and LNG for generation would also add to upward pressure on resource prices and so to inflation risks elsewhere in Asia.
But even then it was unlikely to be enough to make up the current shortfall in power.
"If this lasts to the summer, which is more than possible, there is no way the system could supply the power for air conditioning," he warned. "Tokyo in summer, without air con? Doesn't bear thinking about."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-supplychain-idUKTRE72E11Q20110315
QuotePrices for key technology components extended gains on Tuesday, as damage at Japanese plants and infrastructure caused by Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami threatens to disrupt the global manufacturing chain longer than many had expected.
Dozens of Japanese firms from component makers to electronics firms and automakers are keeping their plants shuttered, while damage to infrastructure including power, roads, rails and ports will take months to repair.
The prospect of prolonged supply disruptions sent global companies scrambling for alternative sources of high-tech components in particular, a sector where Japan is still a dominant player.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-tokyo-idUKTRE72E0ZR20110315
QuotePanic swept Tokyo on Tuesday after a rise in radioactive levels around an earthquake-hit nuclear power plant north of the city, causing some to leave the capital and others to stock up on food and supplies.
Several embassies advised staff and citizens to leave affected areas, tourists cut short vacations and multinational companies either urged staff to leave or said they were considering plans to move outside Tokyo where low levels of radiation have been detected.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/japan-quake-markets-idUSL3E7EF0US20110315
QuoteJapanese stocks plunged 10.6 percent on Tuesday, posting the worst two-day losing streak since 1987, on reports of rising radiation near Tokyo, suggesting any deterioration at a quake-hit nuclear plant could trigger more panic selling led by hedge funds.
The yen tripped on talk of intervention and bond yields rose as investors sold debt to offset losses in the stock market. The scale and speed of the equity selloff, on record volume for a second day running, forced fund managers to sit on the sidelines.
"Even if we wanted to sell today there was very little we could do," said a fund manager at a Japanese fund, asking not to be named because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
"We didn't sell and waited sidelined because hedge funds were just dumping stocks in panic."
At one point the broader Nikkei plunged 14 percent after Prime Minister Naoto Kan said the risk of nuclear contamination was rising at the Fukushima Daiichi complex on Japan's ravaged northeastern coast, 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo.
Equity futures fell and the yen rallied as risky assets were dumped. The yen steadied soon after, raising suspicion that authorities had intervened. The Ministry of Finance declined to comment on intervention.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/uk-private-jets-in-hot-demand-as-japan-e-idUKLNE72F04020110316
QuoteThousands of people desperate to escape Japan's deepening nuclear crisis have inundated private jet companies with requests for evacuation flights, sending prices surging as much as a quarter.
Some multinational companies are pulling international staff out of Tokyo and surrounding areas after low-level radiation reached the metropolis on Tuesday.
Workers are fleeing for Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and as far afield as Australia and the United States as power outages and shortages of basic supplies compound the misery after Friday's 9.0 earthquake and subsequent tsunami.
"I got a request yesterday to fly 14 people from Tokyo to Hong Kong, 5 hour 5 minutes trip. They did not care about price. The charge inflated by 26 percent to more than $160,000," said Jackie Wu, COO of Hong Kong Jet, a newly established private jet subsidiary of China's HNA Group.
"Yesterday, a charter plane from Tokyo to Australia one way, was quoted at $265,000, up 20 percent," Wu added.
Shortages of jet fuel and airport closures were complicating matters in Japan.
Mike Walsh, the CEO of private jet and charter company Asia Jet, said they had run three evacuation flights to Hong Kong from Tokyo by early Wednesday.
"It is now ramping up over last night because of the deteriorating situation. More people are worrying and looking to evacuate from Tokyo," Walsh told Reuters. "We are dealing with over 1,000 people wanting to evacuate from Tokyo this morning."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/uk-foreign-bankers-flee-tokyo-idUKLNE72F04720110316
QuoteForeign bankers are fleeing Tokyo as Japan's nuclear crisis worsens, scrambling for commercial and charter flights out of the country and into other major cities in the region.
BNP Paribas (BNPP.PA), Standard Chartered (STAN.L) and Morgan Stanley (MS.N) were among the banks whose staff have left since Friday's earthquake and tsunami, and now a nuclear plant disaster, according to industry sources with direct knowledge of the matter.
Expatriate staff at most foreign banks in Tokyo make up a small portion of the total, by some estimates less than 10 percent. But many are often in senior positions so their departure can have a significant impact.
And while Japan's investment banking market is famously tough, it's an essential place for large banks to be and can produce hefty fees.
"The foreign banker presence on the ground in Tokyo now is very thin and depending on how long it takes them to return there could be lasting implications of that," said one banker. "Every time there's a washout of foreigners in Japan they never quite return in the same numbers."
With bankers joining the growing exodus, private jet operators reported a surge in demand for evacuation flights which sent prices surging as much as a quarter. One jet operator said the cost of flying 14 people to Hong Kong from Tokyo was more than $160,000.
"I got a request yesterday to fly 14 people from Tokyo to Hong Kong, 5 hour 5 minutes trip. They did not care about price," said Jackie Wu, COO of Hong Kong Jet, a newly established private jet subsidiary of China's HNA Group.
:x
Lovely.
I admit shit's bad. Badwrong bad. Epic, all-they-need-now-is-Godzilla-to-make-it-perfect bad. (some might even say 2012 doomsday shit is just having a try out on Japan...??)
I just don't KNOW, this early on, if a rebound is out of the picture. Sometimes, out of GREAT chaos, comes some semblance of fuck-yeah! order...I know, I'm hopelessly, foolishly, optimistic.
So...um....the radiation smoke plume is apparently traveling across the Pacific towards the US. Fun.
I'm keeping the monkey inside all week, though I don't know if the danger will be passed next week when he's over at the ex's, or even if I can trust whoever he's gotten to watch the kids to keep him in if it isn't. :sad:
Walking out in the smog is going to do more long term harm to a kid than a radioactive cloud from the other side of the pacific.
Possibly, but we don't have much smog here, anyway. Just dried coyote and meth head poomp.
All they've recommended we do is change/wash our clothes if we have to go outside (like I will have to do a lot...awesome), and take a shower. It's just a bit unnerving anyways.
Take a shower?
Santa Cruz is fucked.
I know...those poor bastards already had their yachts capsized. THE HORROR :horrormirth:
seriously though, it's probably not that much worse than getting an xray...
Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 17, 2011, 04:41:36 PM
I know...those poor bastards already had their yachts capsized. THE HORROR :horrormirth:
seriously though, it's probably not that much worse than getting an xray...
A hell of a lot less, actually.
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE :x
Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 17, 2011, 06:18:29 PM
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE :x
Pretty much certainly, sooner or later.
PRObABLE
Quote from: Nurse Freeky on March 17, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
Possibly, but we don't have much smog here, anyway. Just dried coyote and meth head poomp.
i'LL drop them from #2 seed to #200 on the Nop scale of F_$
Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 17, 2011, 04:38:28 PM
All they've recommended we do is change/wash our clothes if we have to go outside (like I will have to do a lot...awesome), and take a shower. It's just a bit unnerving anyways.
Yeah take a shower, but don't mind those TSA scanners. Those are jes' fine!
Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 17, 2011, 04:38:28 PM
All they've recommended we do is change/wash our clothes if we have to go outside (like I will have to do a lot...awesome), and take a shower. It's just a bit unnerving anyways.
Who is "they"?
Probably the news buttholes.
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Probably the news buttholes.
If it's CNN, Ima laugh my arse off.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Probably the news buttholes.
If it's CNN, Ima laugh my arse off.
I'm allergic to local news, but they may have also had their experts on telling people how to be "cautious" etc.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: SARAH PALIN on March 17, 2011, 04:41:36 PM
I know...those poor bastards already had their yachts capsized. THE HORROR :horrormirth:
seriously though, it's probably not that much worse than getting an xray...
A hell of a lot less, actually.
Damnit Roger, you just don't realize the potential for
profit important news about protecting yourself!!
I mean, shit, even the LAX says "little health risk":
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-japan-nuclear-usa-20110317,0,1431467.story
Has the news mentioned anything about iodine being in the cloud?
ARE THE MARINES OVER THERE DOING AID STUFF GONNA GET COVERED IN RADIATIONS? :sad:
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on March 18, 2011, 03:51:01 AM
ARE THE MARINES OVER THERE DOING AID STUFF GONNA GET COVERED IN RADIATIONS? :sad:
No. The marines will be fine. The evacuated everything for 12 miles around the plant. Worst case scenario won't pose a real risk to anybody not in the plant in the short term (long term... contaminated groundwater could be really bad).
Also, marines have fairly easy access to gas masks don't they? That cuts a fairly major amount of the risk out (even if its ends up as bad as Chernobyl (which isn't really possible, but lets give in to the panic), the biggest risk people not on the site will face is breathing in Iodine-131, which would be really bad for their health in 30 or 40 years).
Good: Japanese work ethic will see a faster recovery than if this happened to many other areas. I suspect.
Bad: japan fails at adequate treatment of mental health issues. Expecting a sharp suicide spike.
woooooo finally heard from boyfriend, hes not been sent to mainland for nuclear radiation godzilla-fication! :jebus:
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on March 18, 2011, 12:28:46 PM
woooooo finally heard from boyfriend, hes not been sent to mainland for nuclear radiation godzilla-fication! :jebus:
Glad to hear it, the suspense had to be killer.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on March 18, 2011, 05:23:21 AM
Good: Japanese work ethic will see a faster recovery than if this happened to many other areas. I suspect.
Bad: japan fails at adequate treatment of mental health issues. Expecting a sharp suicide spike.
Up to 90% of people come out of disasters like this with no long-term mental issues or need for treatment.
Besides, counsellors have been sent from foreign countries have been sent along with specialist rescue teams for that 10% or so who may need help. Along with search and rescue teams and food, they're usually considered a priority in such situations.
Their mental health should not be questioned. I mean a country that had no adverse effects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime) after having two Nukes dropped on it is bound to be fine right?
:lulz:
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Probably the news buttholes.
this would be "they".
I feel sorry for them. How can I help?
Quote from: Faust on March 18, 2011, 03:02:00 PM
Their mental health should not be questioned. I mean a country that had no adverse effects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hentai) after having two Nukes dropped on it is bound to be fine right?
Fixed
Fukushima Plant Stabilized:
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS_Stabilisation_at_Fukushima_Daiichi_2003111.html (http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS_Stabilisation_at_Fukushima_Daiichi_2003111.html)
QuoteWorkers on site have succeeded in increasing the stability of the Fukushima Daiichi reactors, with units 5 and 6 now in cold shutdown. Pressure built up within unit 3 but a more significant venting does not seem necessary now.
External power has now been connected to unit 5 and 6, allowing them to use their residual heat removal systems and transfer heat to the sea. This has been used to cool the fuel ponds and bring the units to cold shutdown status, meaning that water in the reactor system is at less than 100ºC.
Trying to find out how many of the 50 are still alive...
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on March 18, 2011, 05:23:21 AM
Good: Japanese work ethic will see a faster recovery than if this happened to many other areas. I suspect.
Bad: japan fails at adequate treatment of mental health issues. Expecting a sharp suicide spike.
Up to 90% of people come out of disasters like this with no long-term mental issues or need for treatment.
Besides, counsellors have been sent from foreign countries have been sent along with specialist rescue teams for that 10% or so who may need help. Along with search and rescue teams and food, they're usually considered a priority in such situations.
I'm more worried about a slower economic recovery.
Somewhat relevant:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png)
Damn, I had to receive two chest x-ray scans last week.
2 out of 5 reactors aren't exploding, and that's not bad! :lulz:
nice chart, LordC...
Quote from: Iptuous on March 21, 2011, 05:23:40 PM
nice chart, LordC...
Ditto, and thanks. Got friends out that way, perspective is good.
I'm freaked out because things were definitely on the upswing for me, and people stopped buying after the earthquake.
you were selling a good amount to Japanese?
Quote from: Iptuous on March 21, 2011, 08:22:05 PM
you were selling a good amount to Japanese?
I do sell to Japanese buyers, and in fact one of my founding patrons is in Japan, but mostly it's that Americans went into crisis-guilt mode and are sitting tight. It'll ease up in a couple of weeks but people clamp down on money when there's a disaster, even if it doesn't affect them. It's just the way it is.
I've seen many artists offer a "5% of this weeks sales go to the relief effort" meme in order to reacquire their customer's attentions.
Quote from: Telarus on March 21, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I've seen many artists offer a "5% of this weeks sales go to the relief effort" meme in order to reacquire their customer's attentions.
Yep, I jumped on that bandwagon right away. It generated five sales.
What's kind of hilarious about all of this is that I realized that, at the point when the government decided to "bail out" the banks, they could have achieved a fantastically better economic recovery by simply mandating a 3-month mortgage payment deferral.
Shit I just realized.
I havent been keeping up with Pat Robertson lately. Hes probably all over this.
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
:lulz:
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 22, 2011, 03:53:23 AM
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
:lulz:
you are both horrible people. :lulz:
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
NO NONONONONONONO
Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:35:45 AM
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
NO NONONONONONONO
Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:35:45 AM
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
NO NONONONONONONO
I'm soooo going to hell.
Also, NPR is reporting that most of the radiation is the gas vents from the plant is iodine 131, this is... not so good. Short half life, but it concentrates in the thyroid gland, so the effective dose is going to be a lot higher for anybody who breaths the stuff in. Iodine pills are being passed out to prevent cancer.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 23, 2011, 04:21:17 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 23, 2011, 03:35:45 AM
Quote from: Da6s on March 22, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696 (http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/50039293816733696)
Must...resist....meme...
NO NONONONONONONO
I'm soooo going to hell.
Also, NPR is reporting that most of the radiation is the gas vents from the plant is iodine 131, this is... not so good. Short half life, but it concentrates in the thyroid gland, so the effective dose is going to be a lot higher for anybody who breaths the stuff in. Iodine pills are being passed out to prevent cancer.
I uh
mostly can't believe you didn't hear about this on the 17th, when the Japanese government issued iodine as a preventative measure in case of a meltdown.
So it was in the news? I never heard anything about it till yesterday, now its all over the place.
...yeah, the issuing of iodine came out when they were making Californians and the rest of the Left Coast run around worrying about radiation sickness.
Oh, no wonder I missed it. I thought that was the left coast being the left coast.
:lulz: It probably was, but it had a tinge of information coloring the hysteria.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/23/article-1369307-0B4B564300000578-813_634x950.jpg)
Wow.
damn.
they fixed that fast.
Quote from: Iptuous on March 24, 2011, 11:50:28 PM
damn.
they fixed that fast.
:lulz:
Quote from: Da6s on March 24, 2011, 11:41:04 PM
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Wow.
:x
Well...fuck...
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81163.html (http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81163.html)
QuoteLevels of radioactive materials are skyrocketing in the sea near the crisis-hit nuclear power station in Fukushima Prefecture, the government's nuclear safety agency said Saturday, while the plant's operator has started injecting fresh water into the No. 2 reactor core to enhance cooling efficiency.
According to the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, radioactive iodine-131 at a concentration 1,250.8 times the legal limit was detected Friday morning in a seawater sample taken around 330 meters south of the plant, near the drain outlets of its troubled four reactors.
The level rose to its highest so far in the survey begun this week, after staying around levels 100 times over the legal limit. It is highly likely that radioactive water in the plant has disembogued into the sea, Tokyo Electric Power Co said.
Shit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world/asia/26japan.html?_r=2 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world/asia/26japan.html?_r=2)
QuoteThe National Institute of Radiological Sciences said that the radioactivity of the water that the three injured workers had stepped into was 10,000 times the level normally seen in coolant water at the plant. It said that the amount of radiation the workers were thought to have been exposed to in the water was two to six sieverts.
Even two sieverts is eight times the new 250-millisievert annual exposure limit set for workers at Daiichi in the days after the disaster; the previous limit was 100. Tokyo Electric officials said that water with an equally high radiation level had been found in the Reactor No. 1 building, The Associated Press reported.
Skin exposures of two to six sieverts will cause severe burns, according to Dr. David J. Brenner, director of the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University. But if those doses reach the whole body and not just the skin "you're at a very high risk of dying," he said.
Anyone know happens when the I131 gets in the ocean? Does it get diluted enough, or perhaps get absorbed by something or other, or will it kill off aquatic life by the megatons?
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 26, 2011, 11:42:51 AM
Anyone know happens when the I131 gets in the ocean? Does it get diluted enough, or perhaps get absorbed by something or other, or will it kill off aquatic life by the megatons?
According to the NPR piece I heard last night it should get absorbed and dispersed in the ocean in about 8 days. But there was another isotope that was more worrisome...I think it was cesium?
8 days is the half life, takes longer for it to be gone.
Cesium is a worry in sufficiently large leaks because its half life is 30 years, but in the small concentrations we're seeing so far iodine (which is concentrated by biological activity) is a bigger risk, since you don't need a big does of radiation to get cancer when its all in your thyroid gland.
I'm not really sure how iodine behaves in nonhumans though, is this stuff gonna kill the fish, just the dolphins? At the very least fishing in the area is gonna have to shut down for months.
So in terms of perspective, are 'we' (meant as the whole world, and also meaning individual countries too, if that made sense outside my head) more fucked recently (past 10-15 yrs or so) or does 'global collapse' (i.e. us fucking it'self, economy down, japan getting screwed, tsunamis here, earthquakes there, insane gas prices everywhere, etc etc) happen more as a cyclical thing?
Its a cyclical thing.
Except for the bit where the economy is built on perpetual growth now, and growth is a cyclical thing too. So we're probably screwed for a while.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 27, 2011, 12:08:06 AM
I'm not really sure how iodine behaves in nonhumans though, is this stuff gonna kill the fish, just the dolphins? At the very least fishing in the area is gonna have to shut down for months.
Especially considering the whole food-chain concentration at the top thing.
BTW, I thought Cesium explodes violently when it comes into contact with water?
that's sodium
ETA: oh, and cesium, too, it seems. :oops:
CESIUM EVEN MORE SO IN FACT!!! :D
cause it's in the periodic table column of splodey stuff, and the further down, the moar it splodes.
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 27, 2011, 11:19:24 PM
CESIUM EVEN MORE SO IN FACT!!! :D
cause it's in the periodic table column of splodey stuff, and the further down, the moar it splodes.
:lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 27, 2011, 11:19:24 PM
CESIUM EVEN MORE SO IN FACT!!! :D
cause it's in the periodic table column of splodey stuff, and the further down, the moar it splodes.
ITT Trip finally explains how to correctly use the Periodic Table :lulz:
Cesium is more explodey per atom, but less explodey per gram than sodium.
Only reason I know this is because of that "science" show (was it Brainiac?) that dropped some cesium into a bathtub, and then set off a bunch of dynamite underneath of it because actual cesium doesn't explode enough to look cool.
ETA: the explosion is from the hydrogen gas given off as the cesium/sodium/whatever replaces the hydrogen atoms in the water molecules. So the radioactive cesium would still be in the ocean as a salt, if it isn't in salt form already.
You know, you could have just let us be wrong about it, but happier for it? :aww:
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:17:44 PM
You know, you could have just let us be wrong about it, but happier for it? :aww:
That's not SCIENCE.
So?
It's still more esplodey by volume, if that helps any.
Edit: No, it isn't. :sad:
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all,
professionals.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Professionals with
splodey stuff?
Quote from: Donald Coyote on March 28, 2011, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Professionals with splodey stuff?
My brain just took "bull by the tail," "staring inna face," and "splodey stuff," put them all together, and now I've gotta explain why I'm giggling to my coworkers.
Quote from: Luna on March 28, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on March 28, 2011, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Professionals with splodey stuff?
My brain just took "bull by the tail," "staring inna face," and "splodey stuff," put them all together, and now I've gotta explain why I'm giggling to my coworkers.
SCIENCE isn't always pretty, and sometimes necessitates an all-day bath.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 28, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on March 28, 2011, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Professionals with splodey stuff?
My brain just took "bull by the tail," "staring inna face," and "splodey stuff," put them all together, and now I've gotta explain why I'm giggling to my coworkers.
SCIENCE isn't always pretty, and sometimes necessitates an all-day bath.
Or shoulder-length rubber gloves.
Ew.
Quote from: Luna on March 28, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 28, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on March 28, 2011, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Professionals with splodey stuff?
My brain just took "bull by the tail," "staring inna face," and "splodey stuff," put them all together, and now I've gotta explain why I'm giggling to my coworkers.
SCIENCE isn't always pretty, and sometimes necessitates an all-day bath.
Or shoulder-length rubber gloves.
Ew.
Sorry. SCIENCE gloves go only to the elbow. After that, you're on your own.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Aww, you're right.
It's just that 1) I don't really believe it but I don't care enough to find out* and 2) a damper on a short bit of fun about splosions. He's right about ionized Cesium (salts) though not being splodey, I figured that'd be the case, but you know I was weighing between "It could splode, but, yaknow, it's probably in salt form, not metallic" and "BUT BUT CESIUM SPLODES LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER" and, well, I guess I'm just not always a SCIENCE type :)
(*he saw it in an ep of Brainiac, I saw a tiny bit of Cesium explode stuff as soon as it touched water in a chemistry movie in highschool as well as some TV program, but I saw a small cube of Sodium on water IRL and it just fizzled and made a bit of fire and smoke when you covered it)
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
So?
We SCIENCE types do not bury our heads in the sand, Trip. We take the bull by the tail and stare the facts in the face.
We are, after all, professionals.
Aww, you're right.
It's just that 1) I don't really believe it but I don't care enough to find out* and 2) a damper on a short bit of fun about splosions. He's right about ionized Cesium (salts) though not being splodey, I figured that'd be the case, but you know I was weighing between "It could splode, but, yaknow, it's probably in salt form, not metallic" and "BUT BUT CESIUM SPLODES LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER" and, well, I guess I'm just not always a SCIENCE type :)
(*he saw it in an ep of Brainiac, I saw a tiny bit of Cesium explode stuff as soon as it touched water in a chemistry movie in highschool as well as some TV program, but I saw a small cube of Sodium on water IRL and it just fizzled and made a bit of fire and smoke when you covered it)
Throw a whole block of sodium into the school's swimming pool, and you burn the fuck out of the liner, and the water tests damn near pure H2O.
You know... In theory...
In other news...
Japanese legislators taking salary cut to raise funds for disaster relief. (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/03/28/Japanese-legislators-taking-salary-cut/UPI-22881301330205/)
Quote
TOKYO, March 28 (UPI) -- Japan will cut 3 million yen ($37,000) from each lawmaker's pay to raise funds for disaster relief, political parties said Monday.
The governing Democratic Party of Japan agreed on the move with the opposition Liberal Democrats and New Komeito, Parliament members told Kyodo News. They will urge other parties to join in and pass the necessary legislation soon.
The plan would cut 500,000 yen ($6,100) from each Diet member's salary for six months, raising 2 billion yen ($24.5 million) to support the reconstruction of northeastern Japan following the March 11 earthquake, tsunami and nuclear accident.
The plan will translate into an annual pay cut of about 14 percent.
Maybe there is hope after all.
Holy Enviably Sane Politics, Batman!
I wish our politicians would take a leaf from their book.
...the leaf, the stem, the whole damned tree...
Quote from: Faust on March 29, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
I wish our politicians would take a leaf from their book.
Ours would give themselves a raise because they've got extra work to do to deal with the disaster. :argh!:
More like issue a tax cut for the rich. "To preserve jobs".
http://climatecrocks.com/2011/04/02/cnn-fukushima-workers-muzzled/ (http://climatecrocks.com/2011/04/02/cnn-fukushima-workers-muzzled/)
Really Japan? Silencing "heroes" now?!
Quote from: Da6s on April 03, 2011, 07:19:24 AM
http://climatecrocks.com/2011/04/02/cnn-fukushima-workers-muzzled/ (http://climatecrocks.com/2011/04/02/cnn-fukushima-workers-muzzled/)
Really Japan? Silencing "heroes" now?!
First minute is other news about the fukushima disaster, the part about the workers being silenced starts at about one minute in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5a0vbHxrwo#t=61s
BTW, why do we call them "workers" and not "employees"? We called the people at the BP oil drill "employees", not "workers", right? Ja tvoi sluga, ja tvoi
robotnik ... :|
(http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DogAtSea.jpg)
Busy 3 weeks.
http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http%3A%2F%2Fflash.vx.roo.com%2FstreamingVX%2F63056%2F1458%2F20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4&autostart=true (http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http%3A%2F%2Fflash.vx.roo.com%2FstreamingVX%2F63056%2F1458%2F20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4&autostart=true)
Holy fuck videos from helicopters as it first hit.
Quote from: Da6s on April 05, 2011, 06:46:20 AM
http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http%3A%2F%2Fflash.vx.roo.com%2FstreamingVX%2F63056%2F1458%2F20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4&autostart=true (http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http%3A%2F%2Fflash.vx.roo.com%2FstreamingVX%2F63056%2F1458%2F20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4&autostart=true)
Holy fuck videos from helicopters as it first hit.
Holy shit... That's just... Holy shit.
The sea is fucking scary.
Bumped for breaking news:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=PASCR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Yes. Another one. :x
There is some serious fucking obstruction in that plate.
Quote from: Absolute_Silence on April 07, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
Bumped for breaking news:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=PASCR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Yes. Another one. :x
An earthquake near a triple junction subjuction zone will have some pretty good aftershocks for a while as the elastic rebound completes
You can believe me
I own a lab coat.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 07, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: Absolute_Silence on April 07, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
Bumped for breaking news:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=PASCR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Yes. Another one. :x
An earthquake near a triple junction subjuction zone will have some pretty good aftershocks for a while as the elastic rebound completes
You can believe me
I own a lab coat.
TECTONICS FTW.
Need money to help rebuild the country?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake_lost_money
how convenient!
2 more quakes. Fukashima plant now declared level 7...Chernobyl level.
People need to get the fuck off those islands before they go the way of Atlantis.
My best friend's Fiancée has been out in Tokyo for ten months. Yesterday, her boss told her she was 'Determined like a Japanese person' for not fleeing from the earthquake or nuclear crisis like every other foreigner on the company payroll.
... nevertheless, I think we're all glad she's coming back today for scheduled holiday. She got on her flight just before the threat level was upgraded. :)
have a :cry:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/04/13/ac.japan.quake.dogs.cnn?hpt=C2
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
Sure, because the bombs we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't kill NEARLY that many.
Now, die in a fire, PopTard.
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
:roll: obvious troll is obvious
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
In that case, you should probably stay away from Native Americans.
yadda yadda troll troll troll. You're still missing the point but just forget it. Anyways, did you see that airplane that was just washing down the street? How insane was that
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
You're still missing the point but just forget it.
What point? That old testament thinking is still the laziest way to use your brain?
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
:asshat:
and I thought I wasn't funny. I'm with Suu, I call sugar covered breakfast pastry.
in the event you're not, you're still an fucking dumbass and you deserve everything that's coming to you.
Quote from: Suu the Infallible on April 15, 2011, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: DirtyThirty on April 15, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
You know this was a horrific event and all, but in some ways you almost have to feel like they deserved it considering the 2,500 that died at Pearl Harbor.
Sure, because the bombs we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't kill NEARLY that many.
Now, die in a fire, PopTard.
Banned. No games, no fuss. He's just gone.
Good, fuck that guy.
That guy gets no pie.