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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 07:10:50 AM

Title: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 07:10:50 AM

http://www.eluniversaltv.com.mx/detalle.php?d=30140 (http://www.eluniversaltv.com.mx/detalle.php?d=30140)

Fianceé of a chef wants to be fattest bride ever at 325 kgs (700ish lb)

You're welcome.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 07:14:23 AM
Oh gee, shes already at 800

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/800-pound-bride-susanne-eman_n_1498377.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/800-pound-bride-susanne-eman_n_1498377.html)
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 14, 2012, 07:15:57 AM
White's a very slimming colour.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Not if that's what she wants.  You have the right to fuck yourself up however you please.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Not if that's what she wants.  You have the right to fuck yourself up however you please.

Consensual abuse is still abuse.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Not if that's what she wants.  You have the right to fuck yourself up however you please.

Consensual abuse is still abuse.

Right then, lets round up all the BDSM crowd and shove them in prison.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: EK WAFFLR on May 14, 2012, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Not if that's what she wants.  You have the right to fuck yourself up however you please.

Consensual abuse is still abuse.

Right then, lets round up all the BDSM crowd and shove them in prison.

Not only them, but every male or female that has ever done a bit of spankin' on their partners.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on May 14, 2012, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 14, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
when you are at a stage that you cannot get about without a wheelchair, the person feeding you is physically abusing you.

Not if that's what she wants.  You have the right to fuck yourself up however you please.

Consensual abuse is still abuse.

Right then, lets round up all the BDSM crowd and shove them in prison.

Not only them, but every male or female that has ever done a bit of spankin' on their partners.

Yep.  Any kink that would in any other situation be abuse should be punished as such.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
We're gonna need MORE COPS. 

:jihad:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
Not all abuse is criminal, either. And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
Not all abuse is criminal, either.

Then what is it?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints? 
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
Not all abuse is criminal, either.

Then what is it?

Damaging to the victim
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:38:24 PM
It occurs to me that we need kink police.  And possibly - in the case of the woman in the OP - attention whore/15 minuter police.

:america:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.

It's both damaging, and illegal in any other context.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
Not all abuse is criminal, either.

Then what is it?

Damaging to the victim

My buddy mooched a smoke off of me yesterday. 

Am I abusing him?  Is he a victim?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.

It's both damaging, and illegal in any other context.

I don't want to play tie-me-up games with you.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.

It's both damaging, and illegal in any other context.

I don't want to play tie-me-up games with you.

Wait.  So discussing something is a proposition?

Then Obama just hit on every male in the USA the other day.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
I'm just saying the tying up part is not supposed to be damaging and if you think it is that implies things about how you play those games.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: EK WAFFLR on May 14, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.

It's both damaging, and illegal in any other context.

I don't want to play tie-me-up games with you.

Wait.  So discussing something is a proposition?

Then Obama just hit on every male in the USA the other day.

Didn't you know? When you discuss anything of a sexual nature, it automatically means you want to roger the heck out of the one you are discussing with. Always.


(pun not intended, initially)
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
I'm just saying the tying up part is not supposed to be damaging and if you think it is that implies things about how you play those games.

So nobody ever gets chafed or bruised?  Really?

It's also illegal to merely tie someone up in any other context.  False imprisonment isn't abuse?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on May 14, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
And I'm in Massachusetts, the BDSMers can't consent to beatings here anyway.

How about restraints?

I think that's kosher, you just can't agree to getting hit.

It's both damaging, and illegal in any other context.

I don't want to play tie-me-up games with you.

Wait.  So discussing something is a proposition?

Then Obama just hit on every male in the USA the other day.

Didn't you know? When you discuss anything of a sexual nature, it automatically means you want to roger the heck out of the one you are discussing with. Always.


(pun not intended, initially)

I love that my name is a euphamism for sex.  :lol:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
I'm just saying the tying up part is not supposed to be damaging and if you think it is that implies things about how you play those games.

So nobody ever gets chafed or bruised?  Really?

It's also illegal to merely tie someone up in any other context.  False imprisonment isn't abuse?

False imprisonment is preventing someone to leave when they want to. Part of the whole "consent" thing is that you're doing things because you want to, and the minute you don't want to anymore you can revoke that consent. And if someone keeps you tied up after you've revoked that consent, it becomes false imprisonment. The sexytiems is not what makes it not false imprisonment, it's the fact that it's not imprisonment unless you don't want to be there.

People have the right to put up with abuse if they so choose, and some abuse is clearly non-criminal. If your girlfriend slaps you in the face repeatedly, it's abuse. No one would attempt to classify it as illegal unless there were other circumstances, but it is still abuse. Feeding your disgusting meatsack of a wife to the point of crippling her is clearly abuse, and unlike the examples you're trying to equate it to it results in permanent, possibly life ending damage. She needs help just as badly as an anorexic does.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Feeding your disgusting meatsack of a wife to the point of crippling her is clearly abuse, and unlike the examples you're trying to equate it to it results in permanent, possibly life ending damage. She needs help just as badly as an anorexic does.

Does a pot smoker need help?  A person who drinks alcohol?  Because they're consenting to doing themselves damage, at least to some degree.

I don't smoke pot.  Why should I not stand on pot smokers getting "help"? 

On the other hand, I do smoke, which definitely results in permanent, possibly life-ending damage.  Should I be assigned "help", if I don't want to quit?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on May 14, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
I'm just saying the tying up part is not supposed to be damaging and if you think it is that implies things about how you play those games.

So nobody ever gets chafed or bruised?  Really?

It's also illegal to merely tie someone up in any other context.  False imprisonment isn't abuse?
People have the right to put up with abuse if they so choose, and some abuse is clearly non-criminal. If your girlfriend slaps you in the face repeatedly, it's abuse. No one would attempt to classify it as illegal unless there were other circumstances, but it is still abuse.

Actually, since we're being all pedantic here, the law would very much consider that assault & battery, which is illegal. 

And I wouldn't consider your girlfriend slapping you repeatedly to consenual BDSM activity. Do you really not get this? Or you just can't stand to be wrong?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on May 14, 2012, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Feeding your disgusting meatsack of a wife to the point of crippling her is clearly abuse, and unlike the examples you're trying to equate it to it results in permanent, possibly life ending damage. She needs help just as badly as an anorexic does.
On the other hand, I do smoke, which definitely results in permanent, possibly life-ending damage.  Should I be assigned "help", if I don't want to quit?

It's for your own good! You just don't realize how much you're abusing yourself!
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on May 14, 2012, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Feeding your disgusting meatsack of a wife to the point of crippling her is clearly abuse, and unlike the examples you're trying to equate it to it results in permanent, possibly life ending damage. She needs help just as badly as an anorexic does.
On the other hand, I do smoke, which definitely results in permanent, possibly life-ending damage.  Should I be assigned "help", if I don't want to quit?

It's for your own good! You just don't realize how much you're abusing yourself!

"Evil turns in on itself.  On the other hand, if I knew a man was coming to my house with the earnest intent of doing good, I would jump out the window and flee."
- Some hippie in the 1850s.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 03:13:57 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on May 14, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Does a pot smoker need help?  A person who drinks alcohol?  Because they're consenting to doing themselves damage, at least to some degree.

I don't smoke pot.  Why should I not stand on pot smokers getting "help"? 

On the other hand, I do smoke, which definitely results in permanent, possibly life-ending damage.  Should I be assigned "help", if I don't want to quit?

Lots of pot smokers, drinkers, and smokers need help, that's why they check themselves into rehab and hospitals and ask their doctors for prescription medication to help them quit. You are absolutely abusing yourself, and if you were unable to buy your own cigarettes because the cancer finally caught up with you, anyone who brought you more cigarettes would be abusing you. That doesn't mean that particular variety of abuse is criminal. "Needs help" and "should be forced to get help" aren't the same.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 14, 2012, 03:13:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Does a pot smoker need help?  A person who drinks alcohol?  Because they're consenting to doing themselves damage, at least to some degree.

I don't smoke pot.  Why should I not stand on pot smokers getting "help"? 

On the other hand, I do smoke, which definitely results in permanent, possibly life-ending damage.  Should I be assigned "help", if I don't want to quit?

Lots of pot smokers, drinkers, and smokers need help, that's why they check themselves into rehab and hospitals and ask their doctors for prescription medication to help them quit. You are absolutely abusing yourself, and if you were unable to buy your own cigarettes because the cancer finally caught up with you, anyone who brought you more cigarettes would be abusing you. That doesn't mean that particular variety of abuse is criminal. "Needs help" and "should be forced to get help" aren't the same.

I'm arguing the "needs" part.  Driving a motorcycle is typically entertainment, but it's far more likely to kill you or seriously fuck you up than smoking is.

Does someone need help if they drive a motorcycle?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 03:23:48 PM
Nah, you're right there. It just seems like things that do harm every time are less bad than things that are generally awesome, but could potentially go wrong once.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I can't even wrap my fucking head around that. I can't even produce that much food in one place in my IMAGINATION!

There are children on earth that have not a bowl of fucking rice! Why not just feed them to HER and solve the problem. She is making me sick. Not just from looking at her, but her idea that this is OK.
"I wanna be the fattest Jabba, tee hee"  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

Fuck that, they should feed her to poor children.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 14, 2012, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I can't even wrap my fucking head around that. I can't even produce that much food in one place in my IMAGINATION!

There are children on earth that have not a bowl of fucking rice! Why not just feed them to HER and solve the problem. She is making me sick. Not just from looking at her, but her idea that this is OK.
"I wanna be the fattest Jabba, tee hee"  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

Fuck that, they should feed her to poor children.

I'm pretty sure she would give them cholesterol problems.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 14, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I can't even wrap my fucking head around that. I can't even produce that much food in one place in my IMAGINATION!

There are children on earth that have not a bowl of fucking rice! Why not just feed them to HER and solve the problem. She is making me sick. Not just from looking at her, but her idea that this is OK.
"I wanna be the fattest Jabba, tee hee"  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

Fuck that, they should feed her to poor children.

Try not equate the calorie intake with the starving children. A couple of billion dollars would benefit them, much more than some lardasses grocery cart. She's just perfectly within her legal, moral and ethical rights to do whatever the fuck she wants, including being the ugliest land whale that ever occupied a reinforced sofa. Might not be my idea of a good night out, hell, the useless fat slug might make me feel physically sick but I'll be bolloxed if I'm going to fuck with her right to do it.

Like roger said - I condone the prosecution of ugly fat fucks, I'd have to condone those fucking weirdos that want to make things like smoking pot and doing fucked up dangerous shit illegal, I'd be condemning myself.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I can't even wrap my fucking head around that. I can't even produce that much food in one place in my IMAGINATION!

There are children on earth that have not a bowl of fucking rice! Why not just feed them to HER and solve the problem. She is making me sick. Not just from looking at her, but her idea that this is OK.
"I wanna be the fattest Jabba, tee hee"  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

Fuck that, they should feed her to poor children.

The male fiancee is a chef(Eman found love recently with Parker Clack, a 35-year-old chef she met on the Internet), so having a full time chef by your side certainly helps.

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 08:17:56 PM

"Abuse" is a word with a wide variety of connotations in a big spectrum of areas, but i dont think the factor of consent is present in most of them.

Even a quick view at wikipedia can show this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse)

So if one's gonna equate all types of abuse into one category, then you are implying BDSM is just as bad as a hate-crime, parental abuse and pedophilia.

Quoteabuse (plural abuses)

    1. Improper treatment or usage; application to a wrong or bad purpose; misuse; perversion. [from 15th c]  [quotations ▼]
    2. Physical or verbal maltreatment; injury.
    3. Forcing of undesired sexual activity by one person on another
    4. An unjust, corrupt or wrongful practice or custom; offense; crime; fault.
    5. Coarse, insulting speech; abusive language.  [quotations ▼]

The transformation of the word into nowadays currently goes along with definition 4, so yeah.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:17:56 PM

"Abuse" is a word with a wide variety of connotations in a big spectrum of areas, but i dont think the factor of consent is present in most of them.

Even a quick view at wikipedia can show this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse)

So if one's gonna equate all types of abuse into one category, then you are implying BDSM is just as bad as a hate-crime, parental abuse and pedophilia.

Quoteabuse (plural abuses)

    1. Improper treatment or usage; application to a wrong or bad purpose; misuse; perversion. [from 15th c]  [quotations ▼]
    2. Physical or verbal maltreatment; injury.
    3. Forcing of undesired sexual activity by one person on another
    4. An unjust, corrupt or wrongful practice or custom; offense; crime; fault.
    5. Coarse, insulting speech; abusive language.  [quotations ▼]

The transformation of the word into nowadays currently goes along with definition 4, so yeah.

I'm resting on #3.  If there's consent, there's no abuse.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"

Americans actually think "freedom" means "gluttony", and not just with respect to food. 

For example, there are more ipods in America than there are in Mexico.  Ergo, we are free and you live in a banana republic.

You're not really free if the aircraft carrier you drive on the freeway every day gets more than 12 miles per gallon.

Freedom means supersizing.  It means UNLIMITED DATA.  It means TIVO or CDR, so you can watch ALL the CRAP you want, all day long.  It means the Certified Pre-Owned Lexus YOU deserve.  It means owing more money on your house, cars, and credit cards than the nation of Guatamala has in their national budget.  It means listening to Talk Radio, so you know what to think for yourself.  It means 5 gallon jugs of pickles at WalMart.  It means building a big stupid Goddamn fence on the Southern border of Arizona because ILLEGALS want to TAKE OUR STUFF.

It means supporting the troops, by getting as many of them maimed or killed as possible.  It means the American Legion, the Rotarians, the Tea Party, and Ayn Rand in your Christmas stocking.

We know all about Freedom™ up here, Johnny.  We invented it.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2012, 08:50:49 PM
Freedom means Gluttony.  I hate and love that.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 15, 2012, 02:07:41 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 14, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I can't even wrap my fucking head around that. I can't even produce that much food in one place in my IMAGINATION!

There are children on earth that have not a bowl of fucking rice! Why not just feed them to HER and solve the problem. She is making me sick. Not just from looking at her, but her idea that this is OK.
"I wanna be the fattest Jabba, tee hee"  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

Fuck that, they should feed her to poor children.

Try not equate the calorie intake with the starving children. A couple of billion dollars would benefit them, much more than some lardasses grocery cart. She's just perfectly within her legal, moral and ethical rights to do whatever the fuck she wants, including being the ugliest land whale that ever occupied a reinforced sofa. Might not be my idea of a good night out, hell, the useless fat slug might make me feel physically sick but I'll be bolloxed if I'm going to fuck with her right to do it.

Like roger said - I condone the prosecution of ugly fat fucks, I'd have to condone those fucking weirdos that want to make things like smoking pot and doing fucked up dangerous shit illegal, I'd be condemning myself.

What i really think that resonates with this whole thing -as a symbol or representative of how things work- is how one person has the privilege, monetary surplus and free time to waste on something so stupid as breaking a world record for fatness while others have no choice but to starve or survive on borderline famine.

I think this goes beyond whats legal or illegal, allowed or not allowed, its about privilege and inequality.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 15, 2012, 05:20:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"

Americans actually think "freedom" means "gluttony", and not just with respect to food. 

For example, there are more ipods in America than there are in Mexico.  Ergo, we are free and you live in a banana republic.

You're not really free if the aircraft carrier you drive on the freeway every day gets more than 12 miles per gallon.

Freedom means supersizing.  It means UNLIMITED DATA.  It means TIVO or CDR, so you can watch ALL the CRAP you want, all day long.  It means the Certified Pre-Owned Lexus YOU deserve.  It means owing more money on your house, cars, and credit cards than the nation of Guatamala has in their national budget.  It means listening to Talk Radio, so you know what to think for yourself.  It means 5 gallon jugs of pickles at WalMart.  It means building a big stupid Goddamn fence on the Southern border of Arizona because ILLEGALS want to TAKE OUR STUFF.

It means supporting the troops, by getting as many of them maimed or killed as possible.  It means the American Legion, the Rotarians, the Tea Party, and Ayn Rand in your Christmas stocking.

We know all about Freedom™ up here, Johnny.  We invented it.

This is the most perfectly disgusting TRUTH I've read all months. And you know what? I'm sharing it out loud cause I know a few people that need to see/hear it.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 15, 2012, 05:31:15 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 15, 2012, 05:20:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"

Americans actually think "freedom" means "gluttony", and not just with respect to food. 

For example, there are more ipods in America than there are in Mexico.  Ergo, we are free and you live in a banana republic.

You're not really free if the aircraft carrier you drive on the freeway every day gets more than 12 miles per gallon.

Freedom means supersizing.  It means UNLIMITED DATA.  It means TIVO or CDR, so you can watch ALL the CRAP you want, all day long.  It means the Certified Pre-Owned Lexus YOU deserve.  It means owing more money on your house, cars, and credit cards than the nation of Guatamala has in their national budget.  It means listening to Talk Radio, so you know what to think for yourself.  It means 5 gallon jugs of pickles at WalMart.  It means building a big stupid Goddamn fence on the Southern border of Arizona because ILLEGALS want to TAKE OUR STUFF.

It means supporting the troops, by getting as many of them maimed or killed as possible.  It means the American Legion, the Rotarians, the Tea Party, and Ayn Rand in your Christmas stocking.

We know all about Freedom™ up here, Johnny.  We invented it.

This is the most perfectly disgusting TRUTH I've read all months. And you know what? I'm sharing it out loud cause I know a few people that need to see/hear it.

Wow. That burns. With fire. I sorta want to spam all my political friends with that.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 15, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Go nuts.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 15, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
OK, so... I like the whole kink scene.. so abuse is too strong a word.

But if you actually love someone, why would you damage their health and lifespan?

Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 15, 2012, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 15, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
OK, so... I like the whole kink scene.. so abuse is too strong a word.

But if you actually love someone, why would you damage their health and lifespan?
BECAUSE TOMORROW NEVER COMES, PIXIE!  STOP HATING ON OUR WAY OF LIFE!
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I've had three thousand calories in a day, and that's enough to make me feel bloated and sick.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 15, 2012, 01:45:18 PM
It's called an enabler.

He's an enabler.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 15, 2012, 01:46:10 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 15, 2012, 01:45:18 PM
It's called an enabler.

He's an enabler.

No, my wife is Enabler, remember?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2012, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"

Americans actually think "freedom" means "gluttony", and not just with respect to food. 

For example, there are more ipods in America than there are in Mexico.  Ergo, we are free and you live in a banana republic.

You're not really free if the aircraft carrier you drive on the freeway every day gets more than 12 miles per gallon.

Freedom means supersizing.  It means UNLIMITED DATA.  It means TIVO or CDR, so you can watch ALL the CRAP you want, all day long.  It means the Certified Pre-Owned Lexus YOU deserve.  It means owing more money on your house, cars, and credit cards than the nation of Guatamala has in their national budget.  It means listening to Talk Radio, so you know what to think for yourself.  It means 5 gallon jugs of pickles at WalMart.  It means building a big stupid Goddamn fence on the Southern border of Arizona because ILLEGALS want to TAKE OUR STUFF.

It means supporting the troops, by getting as many of them maimed or killed as possible.  It means the American Legion, the Rotarians, the Tea Party, and Ayn Rand in your Christmas stocking.

We know all about Freedom™ up here, Johnny.  We invented it.

Or to put it another way, Freedom also means the Freedom from being responsible for one's actions.

You can't tell me what to do, Michelle Obama!  I'm going to eat two cheeseburgers, just to prove you wrong.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 15, 2012, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2012, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM

And no squid, beating a world record and appearing in media is WAY more important than feeding those that need food.

THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND HUMANS!  I'd rather skip rope with their INTESTINES than listen to ONE GODDAMN WORD that oozes out of their RANCID FAT FACES!  Being a Doktor is like being a receiving telepath who CAN'T SWITCH THE VOICES OFF!  Sparks fly off yer brain like you were Robby the Robot, losin' a battle with a rampaging ID!  Just a few minutes breathing MALL air with the humans and I BEGIN TO GET A RASH!  ITS AN ALLERGY!  Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  All they did was BLUBBER when their Buick was replaced by a block of MY POOMP carved into the same shape!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!  What does it TAKE?

But Dok! It is their RIGHT and PRIVILEGE within a nation of FREEDOM to be as fat as they can be! You see, if we dare to critizice her RIGHT to do so, then its a slippery slope to TOTALITARISM, we can ONLY argue the extreme positions of FREEDOM or TOTALITARISM, because those are our only options and thats how the world works.

It is, actually.  You're either free or you're not.  There's no middle ground; there is no "semi-free".

Yes, i do agree with that.

What i was trying to imply is that we're conditioned (or maybe more Americans, im not sure) to think within the dichotomy of "free vs. not free" whereas one could think of "healthy vs. unhealthy" or say "how does this relate to other people locally or internationally?"

Americans actually think "freedom" means "gluttony", and not just with respect to food. 

For example, there are more ipods in America than there are in Mexico.  Ergo, we are free and you live in a banana republic.

You're not really free if the aircraft carrier you drive on the freeway every day gets more than 12 miles per gallon.

Freedom means supersizing.  It means UNLIMITED DATA.  It means TIVO or CDR, so you can watch ALL the CRAP you want, all day long.  It means the Certified Pre-Owned Lexus YOU deserve.  It means owing more money on your house, cars, and credit cards than the nation of Guatamala has in their national budget.  It means listening to Talk Radio, so you know what to think for yourself.  It means 5 gallon jugs of pickles at WalMart.  It means building a big stupid Goddamn fence on the Southern border of Arizona because ILLEGALS want to TAKE OUR STUFF.

It means supporting the troops, by getting as many of them maimed or killed as possible.  It means the American Legion, the Rotarians, the Tea Party, and Ayn Rand in your Christmas stocking.

We know all about Freedom™ up here, Johnny.  We invented it.

Or to put it another way, Freedom also means the Freedom from being responsible for one's actions.

You can't tell me what to do, Michelle Obama!  I'm going to eat two cheeseburgers, just to prove you wrong.

DAMN STRAIGHT!
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 15, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 15, 2012, 01:45:18 PM
It's called an enabler.

He's an enabler.

Yea, this is the point I was getting at. People can carry weight and still be healthy, but massive fluctuation, like this stupid biggest bride in the world thing, will put strain on her health.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 15, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
OK, so... I like the whole kink scene.. so abuse is too strong a word.

But if you actually love someone, why would you damage their health and lifespan?

I roll cigarettes and joints for P3nTGF all the time. Degrees of scale. Don't be too hard on one man and his blimp just cos they TOOK IT TO THE WALL
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 15, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 15, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
OK, so... I like the whole kink scene.. so abuse is too strong a word.

But if you actually love someone, why would you damage their health and lifespan?

I roll cigarettes and joints for P3nTGF all the time. Degrees of scale. Don't be too hard on one man and his blimp just cos they TOOK IT TO THE WALL

yea, I guess.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 03:57:07 PM
One of the things about extreme is that most people freak when they see it. Same goes for setting yourself on fire and jumping across a canyon on a motorbike, same goes for eating so much pretty much everyone in a five mile radius can smell you. It freaks people out, it gets their backs up, it make them outraged and angry and tough shit for them, so long as it doesn't cause a murder.

So jabba might die before her 950th birthday. So what? I'm getting to the stage where every single joint, ligament and muscle in my body is absolute fucking agony, pretty much constantly. I got no one to blame but myself but I'm cool with that. Another decade or so and the pain will be so bad I won't be able to walk. At that point I will prolly just booze and pills myself to death. I won't live to be 70, that's for sure. Til then I will continue to engage in the kind of pursuits that pretty much guarantees this outcome, knowing full well that if I want to grow up to be a million I should stop right now. That's my choice. Fuck you if it offends your delicate sensitivities.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Don Coyote on May 15, 2012, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Guys.


THIRTY THOUSAND CALORIES A DAY

I've had three thousand calories in a day, and that's enough to make me feel bloated and sick.
That is because you are not an American Cain. You have the wrong glands.

Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 15, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
So what youre saying pent is that i should schedule a return to scotland sooner rather than later?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
Everyone should schedule a return to Scotland (even people who have never set foot on it) ASA-f'kin-P! Scotland is the bona fide center of the universe. Why the fuck would anyone want to be anywhere else?  :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
When a man is tired of Scotland, he is tired of a rain-sodden land of drunken belligerents with a poor grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
That's what I'm saying! how could anyone ever tire of that?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Don Coyote on May 15, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
The one time I was in Scotland is was sunny. I was disappoint.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 15, 2012, 10:18:16 PM
Scotland reminds me of ireland but with bigger hills and weirder accents. I loved it there. Spend my 23rd birthday in inverness.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2012, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: The 3 wolf moon is a harsh SHUTUP on May 15, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
The one time I was in Scotland is was sunny. I was disappoint.

You weren't in Scotland.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 15, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
Oh and the irish dudes with funnier accents also occasionally wear skirts.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Don Coyote on May 15, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2012, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: The 3 wolf moon is a harsh SHUTUP on May 15, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
The one time I was in Scotland is was sunny. I was disappoint.

You weren't in Scotland.

I was in Bizzaro-Scotland? :?

I WANT MY SUMMER TRIP REFUNDED :argh!: :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
Glen Etive 10:00am last month

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/GOPR2855wee.jpg)
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Don Coyote on May 15, 2012, 10:37:07 PM
I take this as proof that not only is Pent a Scottishman, but also that he is from Bizzaro-Scottishland and is therefore even more deviant than "normal" Scots.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
 :thanks:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 15, 2012, 11:07:19 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
Glen Etive 10:00am last month

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/GOPR2855wee.jpg)

Is Scotland always bent out of shape like that or just your presence putting strain on Euclidean geometry?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 11:09:43 PM
I repel everything, including light. 8)
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 15, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 11:09:43 PM
I repel everything, including light. 8)

Do you ... repel without a caustic?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 16, 2012, 09:03:55 AM
I have no idea what that means but I strongly suspect it's a pun  :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 16, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 16, 2012, 09:03:55 AM
I have no idea what that means but I strongly suspect it's a pun  :argh!:
rebel without a cause
repel without a caustic
your argh! is appropriate.
:lol:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 17, 2012, 02:14:40 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 15, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2012, 11:09:43 PM
I repel everything, including light. 8)

Do you ... repel without a caustic?

:argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM

Catapulting their PETS into their POOLS hasn't GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS!  They didn't get a CLUE when the dumptruck of spoiled SHRIMP was emptied onto their lawn!  They couldn't figure it out when 30 gallons of blue airplane poop was dropped onto their house from 30,000 feet!

So you're a..different kind of Rain God.  :)

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
If there's consent, there's no abuse.

And suicide?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
You may find, Epi, that we already have a few names for non-consenting suicide.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 17, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Names such as "accident", "setting an example" or "terrible shame if ~ were to happen" ?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 17, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Names such as "accident", "setting an example" or "terrible shame if ~ were to happen" ?

"regrettable incident"
"Onlookers were amazed by the sheer quantity of blood"
"Nigel"
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2012, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 17, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Names such as "accident", "setting an example" or "terrible shame if ~ were to happen" ?

"regrettable incident"
"Onlookers were amazed by the sheer quantity of blood"
"Nigel"

:lulz:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 17, 2012, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 17, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Names such as "accident", "setting an example" or "terrible shame if ~ were to happen" ?

"regrettable incident"
"Onlookers were amazed by the sheer quantity of blood"
"Nigel"

:lulz:

I've heard that State Farm has a room full of actuaries just on account of you, Nigel.  Death by accidental all his/her skin fell off and/or his bones just popped out, officer.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Luna on May 17, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 17, 2012, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 17, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
Names such as "accident", "setting an example" or "terrible shame if ~ were to happen" ?

"regrettable incident"
"Onlookers were amazed by the sheer quantity of blood"
"Nigel"

:lulz:

I've heard that State Farm has a room full of actuaries just on account of you, Nigel.  Death by accidental all his/her skin fell off and/or his bones just popped out, officer.

Outdated info, Dok.  They HAD a room full of actuaries just on account of Nigel... but all their skin fell off...
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
Heeeeeee!!!  :lulz:

That image is so delightful I squeeed out loud!
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Luna on May 17, 2012, 11:22:45 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 17, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
Heeeeeee!!!  :lulz:

That image is so delightful I squeeed out loud!

Yay!   :lol:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
You may find, Epi, that we already have a few names for non-consenting suicide.

Yea verily.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: The Johnny on May 18, 2012, 05:05:39 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

NO, THEY SHOUDL BE BEHIND BARS FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER THE REST OF THERI LIVES
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Epimetheus on May 20, 2012, 01:38:56 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 18, 2012, 05:05:39 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

NO, THEY SHOUDL BE BEHIND BARS FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER THE REST OF THERI LIVES

So I'll take that as a Yes.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 18, 2012, 05:05:39 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

NO, THEY SHOUDL BE BEHIND BARS FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER THE REST OF THERI LIVES

Bullshit! Why should the tax payer shoulder the burden of their nihilistic crime? They should be executed by lethal injection - that'll teach them a fucking lesson :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Freeky on May 20, 2012, 07:53:24 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 18, 2012, 05:05:39 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

NO, THEY SHOUDL BE BEHIND BARS FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER THE REST OF THERI LIVES

Bullshit! Why should the tax payer shoulder the burden of their nihilistic crime? They should be executed by lethal injection - that'll teach them a fucking lesson :argh!:

This actually upsets me a whole lot.  It isn't because I think P3nt is being serious, no, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Something something never over the top enough, something something :cry:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 20, 2012, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on May 18, 2012, 05:05:39 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 17, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
And suicide?

What about it?

It is consensual (self-harm), so should people be allowed it? Curious about your view

NO, THEY SHOUDL BE BEHIND BARS FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER THE REST OF THERI LIVES

Bullshit! Why should the tax payer shoulder the burden of their nihilistic crime? They should be executed by lethal injection - that'll teach them a fucking lesson :argh!:

:lol:
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 20, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Don't worry, you can't actually sentence someone to a lethal injection for suicide.

... only for attempted suicide.
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
Non lethal injection?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 20, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
Non lethal injection?

Mandatory acupuncture therapy?
Title: Re: OH, Arizona!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 20, 2012, 05:09:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 20, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 20, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
Non lethal injection?

Mandatory acupuncture therapy?

Perfect.