So, the trip.
Tucson to Dallas: Sat on the plane next to my congressman, both of us gabbing about the Texas explosion. My response: "Deregulation kills...And unenforced regulation isn't regulation." The congressman, a democrat, brought up that "excessive regulation" strangles business. I asked him how much business that plant in Texas is doing right now. Congressman decided he really needed to read the sports section.
Greenville: Opened my presentation with "deregulation kills". It went over pretty well, as I am not alone in this way of thinking, at least in my company. Dinner with bigwigs. Things go horribly wrong.
The plant manager for our plant that's about 30 miles from Greenville was drunkenly crowing about HIS safety record, and asks if I want to come by "to see how it's done". He didn't like the fact that he just sat though a lecture by someone who didn't even have a PhD, and now he's all ballsy. What the hell? Why not?
So I take a tour of his plant with a clipboard. I log 26 OSHA violations in 25 minutes. Asshole now wants me out of his plant, but he shot his mouth off in front of his bosses, and they're not about to let him off the hook. At the conclusion of the tour I've found SIXTY more violations. My boss's boss (also this guy's boss) wants a copy of my findings, so I stay up until 3AM Wednesday night, typing them up.
Lessons gained:
1. If you don't want to know, don't ask.
2. Don't try to punk a sober person out when you're drunk.
3. Lack of accidents occurring is largely luck. You can influence that luck through proper practices, and you can also get away with being sloppy for a random amount of time. This is what asshole has been enjoying.
Asshole and I are now, it appears, best of friends. And by "friends" I mean "This guy would pay money to have me flensed".
I can live with that. In fact, it will help keep me warm on cold desert nights.
Fucking wonderful.
That guy must be shitting himself. Stupid drunks will never learn to SHUT UP. How many were "This is fucking BAD" standard?
Well, at least it had a happy ending. Glad to see you home, dude!
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:30:34 PM
Fucking wonderful.
That guy must be shitting himself. Stupid drunks will never learn to SHUT UP. How many were "This is fucking BAD" standard?
About 80%. I wasn't nit-picking. I didn't have to nit pick.
Hoists with spread hooks. Hooks with no safety latches. Forklifts with non-functional seatbelts (not reflected on the daily forklift "inspection", which was obviously pencil-whipped). No hearing protection available (in areas with 100 Db ambient noise). People wearing shorts in a heavy industrial setting. Drums of oil stored in an MCC. Electrical panels blocked by stacked inventory. Poor housekeeping (to the point of being hazardous), etc.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 17, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
Well, at least it had a happy ending. Glad to see you home, dude!
It was like going to a theme park that someone designed just for me. :lulz:
And you didn't want to go... Imagine! You would have missed a career-high Pwning!
Are you going to request to go back and full-on audit the place or something?
Because I think they'd let you. And the fury caused could be hilarious.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 17, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
And you didn't want to go... Imagine! You would have missed a career-high Pwning!
I never want to go. I fucking hate business travel. I hate hotels. I hate airports. I hate people.
And everyone in Greenville was so fucking NICE that I hate them even more now.
Also, too much nature. Felt like the walls were closing in. Or the trees. And the critters didn't even attack, which always made me feel like I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
Are you going to request to go back and full-on audit the place or something?
Because I think they'd let you. And the fury caused could be hilarious.
No, I think my boss's boss has that well in hand.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
So, the trip.
Tucson to Dallas: Sat on the plane next to my congressman, both of us gabbing about the Texas explosion. My response: "Deregulation kills...And unenforced regulation isn't regulation." The congressman, a democrat, brought up that "excessive regulation" strangles business. I asked him how much business that plant in Texas is doing right now. Congressman decided he really needed to read the sports section.
:awesome:
The only way that could have been more awesome is if it was Rick Perry, and somebody youtubed it.
Because he would have CRIED. :lulz:
QuoteGreenville: Opened my presentation with "deregulation kills". It went over pretty well, as I am not alone in this way of thinking, at least in my company. Dinner with bigwigs. Things go horribly wrong.
The plant manager for our plant that's about 30 miles from Greenville was drunkenly crowing about HIS safety record, and asks if I want to come by "to see how it's done". He didn't like the fact that he just sat though a lecture by someone who didn't even have a PhD, and now he's all ballsy. What the hell? Why not?
So I take a tour of his plant with a clipboard. I log 26 OSHA violations in 25 minutes. Asshole now wants me out of his plant, but he shot his mouth off in front of his bosses, and they're not about to let him off the hook. At the conclusion of the tour I've found SIXTY more violations. My boss's boss (also this guy's boss) wants a copy of my findings, so I stay up until 3AM Wednesday night, typing them up.
Lessons gained:
1. If you don't want to know, don't ask.
2. Don't try to punk a sober person out when you're drunk.
3. Lack of accidents occurring is largely luck. You can influence that luck through proper practices, and you can also get away with being sloppy for a random amount of time. This is what asshole has been enjoying.
Asshole and I are now, it appears, best of friends. And by "friends" I mean "This guy would pay money to have me flensed".
I can live with that. In fact, it will help keep me warm on cold desert nights.
Also :awesome:
Makes the trip worthwhile, doesn't it? :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
Too late. I have to go to Ohio in October.
:walken:
I should have flubbed that. But there won't be a promotion. This sort of shit is in the fine print of my job description.
Ah the bastards. Do they know that? Any chance of angling for a raise?
Make hay while the sun shines and all that.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
Ah the bastards. Do they know that? Any chance of angling for a raise?
Make hay while the sun shines and all that.
Oh, I'll get a nice raise out of it in September. But not a pay grade or anything like that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
Too late. I have to go to Ohio in October.
:walken:
I should have flubbed that. But there won't be a promotion. This sort of shit is in the fine print of my job description.
Oh FFS. :horrormirth:
Negligence kills; its unacceptable for people to cut corners in order to save a dime or to save effort.
Quote from: The Johnny on May 17, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
Negligence kills; its unacceptable for people to cut corners in order to save a dime or to save effort.
Part of it is ignorance; this is the fault of management.
Part of it is cost; this is the fault of management.
Part of it is laziness; this is the fault of everyone involved.
I needed to read this sort of thing today. Bravo for pwnage,welcome to being the most fit monkey in their eyes.
You already know this, Roger, since it's exactly the thing you were sent out there to talk about
but I think it's worth stating directly
Because of what you do every day, people who might have died under someone else's leadership are alive. Because someone had enough sense to recognize the value of what you do, more workers will continue to be alive, when someone else's negligence might have killed them. Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
I'm all hopped up on brain pills, but I think I got my point across.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on May 17, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
Negligence kills; its unacceptable for people to cut corners in order to save a dime or to save effort.
Part of it is ignorance; this is the fault of management.
Part of it is cost; this is the fault of management.
Part of it is laziness; this is the fault of everyone involved.
there is a direct paralel with something im going thru at my job, which i cannot share unfortunately, but i wanted to add:
there is a huge and persistent problem in any organization that pertains to bureaucratization, in which people with a stable job, after an undetermined ammount of time are into it just for their salary... they forget they have a role assigned to them that EARNS them said salary, and they just become dead-weight leeches that focus on maintaining the appearance of fullfilling a role rather than doing what they should be doing... this not only happens on a staff level, it can happen on the level of entire organizations
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
You already know this, Roger, since it's exactly the thing you were sent out there to talk about
but I think it's worth stating directly
Because of what you do every day, people who might have died under someone else's leadership are alive. Because someone had enough sense to recognize the value of what you do, more workers will continue to be alive, when someone else's negligence might have killed them. Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
I'm all hopped up on brain pills, but I think I got my point across.
Well, the whole point of the trip was to tell the board how I do what I do, how we got through an OSHA audit with no findings, and how we've had zero recordables in the last 3 years.
When I started speaking, about 3/10 listened. The other 7/10 shut down the moment I was proposing things that actually had to be DONE, meaning, "something other than writing memos, something that might require money or even - hold onto your hat - changing the way things are done on the production floor.
It was about as effective as I expected it to be. The people that matter listened. Now they can deal with the inertia.
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
You already know this, Roger, since it's exactly the thing you were sent out there to talk about
but I think it's worth stating directly
Because of what you do every day, people who might have died under someone else's leadership are alive. Because someone had enough sense to recognize the value of what you do, more workers will continue to be alive, when someone else's negligence might have killed them. Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
I'm all hopped up on brain pills, but I think I got my point across.
And an excellent point it is.
I don't have anything substantive to add, but yay Roger!
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
I'm not sure, but that smells like a dick move on your part, right there.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 01:21:44 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
I'm not sure, but that smells like a dick move on your part, right there.
FB.
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
how old are you? 17?
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
how old are you? 17?
FB.
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
how old are you? 17?
No, but my sense of humor still has acne problems.
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 02:13:41 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
how old are you? 17?
No, but my sense of humor still has acne problems.
Maybe your "sense of humour" has assburgers, should look into it.
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 02:24:46 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 02:13:41 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
how old are you? 17?
No, but my sense of humor still has acne problems.
Maybe your "sense of humour" has assburgers, should look into it.
I think Burger King carries those now...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1aAc4xiL9us/TkLOlvjHnHI/AAAAAAAANZk/ooVo_lH227E/s320/ass_burger-13327.jpg)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 01:21:44 AM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
Your direct influence has helped take a little bit of ugliness out of the world, because you decided to give a shit about human life and put in the work to help preserve it.
Think of all those people who cannot give a shit in Bangladesh. Give generously.
I'm not sure, but that smells like a dick move on your part, right there.
OK, I'm gonna do my usual thing, just a disclaimer here
but I read that completely differently, I think.
ThAts cool, how did you read it?
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
I hope that guy gets hazard pay. It's rough enough being the token black guy in movies, let alone real life. Our bomb-threat protocols at my store were ridiculous and stupid. I had to explain them in tiny words to my managers who weren't even told about them, just one of the cashiers came and taped notes under the phones and didn't say anything. It was a circus.
Then again, my store's response to OSHA violations was also part of the circus. The part with all the crying clowns. I cannot fathom the intensity of stupid Roger has to deal with on a daily basis working with all that hazardous shit when there are people who can't even make a fucking sandwich without putting people's lives and safety at risk. My brain flat-out refuses to grok that.
Hazard pay is rarer than fairy dust here.
And he's Black.
And in Texas.
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
Hazard pay is rarer than fairy dust here.
And he's Black.
And in Texas.
So he got a $5 gift card for KFC and a $.80 off 10lbs of watermelon coupon. Got it.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 08:33:20 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
Hazard pay is rarer than fairy dust here.
And he's Black.
And in Texas.
So he got a $5 gift card for KFC and a $.80 off 10lbs of watermelon coupon. Got it.
Not even. They don't even give employees a fucking turkey for xmas.
More like "STFU or you could lose your job". :x
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 08:38:01 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 08:33:20 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
Hazard pay is rarer than fairy dust here.
And he's Black.
And in Texas.
So he got a $5 gift card for KFC and a $.80 off 10lbs of watermelon coupon. Got it.
Not even. They don't even give employees a fucking turkey for xmas.
More like "STFU or you could lose your job". :x
Yeah. I know that one.
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
THAT is not proper bomb threat protocol.
P.S.
Yes I DO know proper bomb threat protocol, including the RIGHT way to clear a building.
You tell them it's a fire drill until they get outside. Stampedes cause injuries.
You make sure the building's empty by doing a walkthrough.
Then don't touch a damn thing, ESPECIALLY light switches or devices, as a change in the power state of any given device or light switch may be a triggering mechanism..
You then wait for the bomb squad, because they know what they are doing and they probably get paid more than you.
P.P.S I'm really glad Rev Roger does his job.
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
THAT is not proper bomb threat protocol.
P.S.
Yes I DO know proper bomb threat protocol, including the RIGHT way to clear a building.
You tell them it's a fire drill until they get outside. Stampedes cause injuries.
You make sure the building's empty by doing a walkthrough.
Then don't touch a damn thing, ESPECIALLY light switches or devices, as a change in the power state of any given device or light switch may be a triggering mechanism..
You then wait for the bomb squad, because they know what they are doing and they probably get paid more than you.
P.P.S I'm really glad Rev Roger does his job.
Seguin doesn't seem to have a bomb squad.
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
THAT is not proper bomb threat protocol.
P.S.
Yes I DO know proper bomb threat protocol, including the RIGHT way to clear a building.
You tell them it's a fire drill until they get outside. Stampedes cause injuries.
You make sure the building's empty by doing a walkthrough.
Then don't touch a damn thing, ESPECIALLY light switches or devices, as a change in the power state of any given device or light switch may be a triggering mechanism..
You then wait for the bomb squad, because they know what they are doing and they probably get paid more than you.
P.P.S I'm really glad Rev Roger does his job.
WRONG
Jack Bauer shows up, shoots some rounds into the air and yells "everybody get out!", and tackles the nearest minority, ties them up, waterboards them, and runs off, gets the bomb, puts it in a pick up truck and runs it off a bridge right before it blows up.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
The plant manager for our plant that's about 30 miles from Greenville was drunkenly crowing about HIS safety record, and asks if I want to come by "to see how it's done". He didn't like the fact that he just sat though a lecture by someone who didn't even have a PhD, and now he's all ballsy. What the hell? Why not?
It's a step in the right direction that safety is now a thing people brag about having.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 19, 2013, 02:29:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
The plant manager for our plant that's about 30 miles from Greenville was drunkenly crowing about HIS safety record, and asks if I want to come by "to see how it's done". He didn't like the fact that he just sat though a lecture by someone who didn't even have a PhD, and now he's all ballsy. What the hell? Why not?
It's a step in the right direction that safety is now a thing people brag about having.
Yes, but the next step is actually achieving it.
Quote from: The Johnny on May 18, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: hylierandom on May 18, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 18, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
I guess that guy really showed you, huh, Roger? Sorry you had to deal with the travel bullshit. That many OSHA violations in one place gives me the willies.
Tangentally related story of how much employers give a fuck about safety in general:
About five years ago I was working at a supermarket. Somebody called in a bomb threat (which is, of course, a jake 99% of the time, but that 1% is a bitch). They didn't tell us what was going on, they just got all the workers and customers to go stand outside and wait. Then they got the ONE BLACK EMPLOYEE, who worked as a meat cutter, to go in and walk around the store and "see if he saw anything unusual". Then a cop came and talked with the manager and everybody went back in.
THAT is not proper bomb threat protocol.
P.S.
Yes I DO know proper bomb threat protocol, including the RIGHT way to clear a building.
You tell them it's a fire drill until they get outside. Stampedes cause injuries.
You make sure the building's empty by doing a walkthrough.
Then don't touch a damn thing, ESPECIALLY light switches or devices, as a change in the power state of any given device or light switch may be a triggering mechanism..
You then wait for the bomb squad, because they know what they are doing and they probably get paid more than you.
P.P.S I'm really glad Rev Roger does his job.
WRONG
Jack Bauer shows up, shoots some rounds into the air and yells "everybody get out!", and tackles the nearest minority, ties them up, waterboards them, and runs off, gets the bomb, puts it in a pick up truck and runs it off a bridge right before it blows up.
I think I saw that one. Totally legit way to do bomb threat protocol. :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
ThAts cool, how did you read it?
I read it as very drily tongue-in-cheek about how people in Bangladesh are fucked, and if we have the power to give a shit, we should do it.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 20, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
ThAts cool, how did you read it?
I read it as very drily tongue-in-cheek about how people in Bangladesh are fucked, and if we have the power to give a shit, we should do it.
also there was a factory that basically collapsed due to pretty much no safety regs in Bangladesh recently. the body count was around 700 and they made clothing for places like The Gap, Primark (big cut price clothing store in Europe and the UK) and H&M and such. basically crushed to death by an unsafe building.
This is why most of my clothing is from charity shops and I'd rather spend more money less often on clothes than buy cheap shit that kills people.
Quote from: Pixie on May 20, 2013, 01:36:07 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 20, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
ThAts cool, how did you read it?
I read it as very drily tongue-in-cheek about how people in Bangladesh are fucked, and if we have the power to give a shit, we should do it.
also there was a factory that basically collapsed due to pretty much no safety regs in Bangladesh recently. the body count was around 700 and they made clothing for places like The Gap, Primark (big cut price clothing store in Europe and the UK) and H&M and such. basically crushed to death by an unsafe building.
This is why most of my clothing is from charity shops and I'd rather spend more money less often on clothes than buy cheap shit that kills people.
Yes, I assumed that it went without saying that was a key part of the reference, as it's been inescapably all over the news, Facebook, and every other forum.
Quote from: Pixie on May 20, 2013, 01:36:07 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 20, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 18, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
ThAts cool, how did you read it?
I read it as very drily tongue-in-cheek about how people in Bangladesh are fucked, and if we have the power to give a shit, we should do it.
also there was a factory that basically collapsed due to pretty much no safety regs in Bangladesh recently. the body count was around 700 and they made clothing for places like The Gap, Primark (big cut price clothing store in Europe and the UK) and H&M and such. basically crushed to death by an unsafe building.
Think the body count's up to 1000 now. :(
Here's hoping it does the same thing there that the Triangle Shirtwaist fire did here for worker safety. (And what "the Jungle" did for food safety for that matter. )
Bangladeshis have it very hard on the whole.
When your life's a fight for mere survival, you have very little room to try to make the world a better place.
...And for some reason, I just mentally heard "We are the world, we are the children," in my head.
Ugh.
I think I shall barf now.
i had no idea about bangladesh, reference went right above my head
Quote from: The Johnny on May 20, 2013, 08:51:00 AM
i had no idea about bangladesh, reference went right above my head
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22476774
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 17, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
PROPHECY
HAHAHHAHAHA this thread!
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on May 17, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
Why can't I listen when obvious PROPHECY is spoken? :sad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 03, 2014, 02:53:56 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on May 17, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Oh wow. :lulz:
You better be careful with that, Roger, because they might promote you and start sending you places. What if they made you something like "regional safety manager" or some shit? You'd never get to stay home.
Why can't I listen when obvious PROPHECY is spoken? :sad:
:lulz:
I forgot I said that.