http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gjm7W-hDLc&feature=related
YA JUST BEAT THE GAY OUT OF 'EM!
That'll learn 'em. Get out there and dig a ditch because that's what boys do. And you're going to be BEAUTIFUL and smell NICE because that's what girls do.
I feel pretty. Oh so pretty. So pretty and witty and GAAAAY *punch*
It's a good thing that the pastor isn't repressing anything.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 02, 2013, 09:06:27 PM
It's a good thing that the pastor isn't repressing anything.
Yeah, or somebody'd have to break his wrist.
It's what boys do. They have childish fantasies of hot sweaty male-on-male sex, and you have to BEAT IT OUT OF THEM.
I know when I was a kid the only thing I could think about was eatin' pussy.
Wait, no, that was pudding.
Easy mistake to make, I suppose.
Wait. That's really gross.
Mmmmm, soft, tangy, salty pudding...
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 02, 2013, 11:06:24 PM
Mmmmm, soft, tangy, salty pudding...
I do call her puddin'. :p
As for the preacher, that was mighty Christian of him...also mighty white of him...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-vyktoriah/what-happened-when-my-son-wore-a-pink-headband-to-walmart_b_3696113.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Well that didn't take long.
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Well that didn't take long.
Jeez.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
I don't know. I've heard rumors that Dok looks perfectly normal at first glance. Maybe they'd walk right into his fist a few times . . .
I know if someone messed with a kid I was in charge of that person would be gargling their teeth.
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
Anyone's kids. I have a very long fuse, surprisingly enough, in most cases. In this case, as a passer-by, I'd grab the heaviest thing off the shelf and redo his nose for him.
Dok,
Fighting fair isn't my bag, man.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
I don't know. I've heard rumors that Dok looks perfectly normal at first glance. Maybe they'd walk right into his fist a few times . . .
I know if someone messed with a kid I was in charge of that person would be gargling their teeth.
Any kid.
You just don't do that shit.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 03, 2013, 04:14:06 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
I don't know. I've heard rumors that Dok looks perfectly normal at first glance. Maybe they'd walk right into his fist a few times . . .
I know if someone messed with a kid I was in charge of that person would be gargling their teeth.
Any kid.
You just don't do that shit.
Yeah, any kid. One thing that sucked about my last fucking job is my manager kept having to yell at me for telling assbag parents not to hit their kids or I would call the cops and that's not good customer service.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 03, 2013, 04:06:03 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I would have head butted the son of a bitch. How fucking stupid are you that you're threatened by a 2 year old!
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:17:12 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
I don't know. I've heard rumors that Dok looks perfectly normal at first glance. Maybe they'd walk right into his fist a few times . . .
I know if someone messed with a kid I was in charge of that person would be gargling their teeth.
Any kid.
You just don't do that shit.
Yeah, any kid. One thing that sucked about my last fucking job is my manager kept having to yell at me for telling assbag parents not to hit their kids or I would call the cops and that's not good customer service.
Different situation, depends what you mean by "hit". A parent spanking their child is one thing. A parent slugging their kid is another. A total stranger laying his hands on a 2 year old means an ass kicking, Roger & Chuck-style. Only without Chuck.
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I would have head butted the son of a bitch. How fucking stupid are you that you're threatened by a 2 year old!
Yep. Roger and Chuck style.
This is defined as "Be sure you can explain yourself when this is over, because the cops are NOT going to accept 'boys will be boys'."
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
There is almost always an alternative to violence. In that case, there wouldn't be one, at least for me.
I don't think anyone would mess with your kids while you were present. Most humans have a better survival instinct than that.
I don't know. I've heard rumors that Dok looks perfectly normal at first glance. Maybe they'd walk right into his fist a few times . . .
I know if someone messed with a kid I was in charge of that person would be gargling their teeth.
Any kid.
You just don't do that shit.
Yeah, any kid. One thing that sucked about my last fucking job is my manager kept having to yell at me for telling assbag parents not to hit their kids or I would call the cops and that's not good customer service.
Different situation, depends what you mean by "hit". A parent spanking their child is one thing. A parent slugging their kid is another. A total stranger laying his hands on a 2 year old means an ass kicking, Roger & Chuck-style. Only without Chuck.
I agree spanking is something else entirely.
Yeah spanking ,and telling your child "No" for trying to play with something sharp is always acceptable. Way different that beating them with a closed fist because they wanted candy. I see this dumb retarded shit here in Texas. Kid cries? Beat the shit out of them "That I'll learn them".
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
I have no idea if it did.
I CAN say that during my 3 years in Texas, I saw shit that - while not this bad - made this look sort of par for the course.
On the other hand, the author punched my rage button, whether or not it's true, so effective article.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:25:29 AM
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
No. I just smell something funky.
I mean, the lady posted this on her blog. It's not like anyone else saw it happen, and she didn't report it to Wal-Mart or the police, so there's no incentive for anyone to pull the surveillance tape and look at it. Yet. Now that it's gotten so much play someone's bound to.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:25:29 AM
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
Looking at the film, looking at the story, there's no outside evidence that it ever happened at all.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:28:01 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:25:29 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
No. I just smell something funky.
I mean, the lady posted this on her blog. It's not like anyone else saw it happen, and she didn't report it to Wal-Mart or the police, so there's no incentive for anyone to pull the surveillance tape and look at it. Yet. Now that it's gotten so much play someone's bound to.
Most of those "tapes" are memory buffers with about a week's storage, these days, except for the cameras looking down on the registers.
So there probably won't be any film.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 03, 2013, 04:26:36 AM
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
I have no idea if it did.
I CAN say that during my 3 years in Texas, I saw shit that - while not this bad - made this look sort of par for the course.
On the other hand, the author punched my rage button, whether or not it's true, so effective article.
I live here, I never thought it wasn't real.
Quote from: /b/earman on August 03, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:31:55 AM
Quote from: /b/earman on August 03, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response...I hate having it myself.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
No. I just smell something funky.
I mean, the lady posted this on her blog. It's not like anyone else saw it happen, and she didn't report it to Wal-Mart or the police, so there's no incentive for anyone to pull the surveillance tape and look at it. Yet. Now that it's gotten so much play someone's bound to.
Most of those "tapes" are memory buffers with about a week's storage, these days, except for the cameras looking down on the registers.
So there probably won't be any film.
Ah.
So, yeah, it's just a story that may or may not be true.
I know that if that happened to me I would be all "WHOA DID YOU SEE THAT?" and I would find an employee immediately, at the very least. I worked retail for 13 years, and while nothing like that ever happened, people were constantly tattling on each other and reporting weird shit and strange behavior in the store.
I can also see just going into shock and not saying anything and going home. But that's not really compatible with the "if you touch my child again I'll cut your hands off" statement, which seems remarkably self-possessed.
I dunno. Something probably happened. I'm just not very convinced that it happened the way she said it happened.
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Well that didn't take long.
That man would have had every bone in his bigotted fucking ass shattered if he ever touched my child.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 04:36:44 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:31:55 AM
Quote from: /b/earman on August 03, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response, I've had it a few times and I hate it want to move, but can't.
This is a fact.
I have a similar response. I stand there staring in horror like everyone else, but my hands are doing stuff with blunt objects. Which I imagine is a product of conditioning.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response, I've had it a few times and I hate it.
According to her, she didn't freeze. She confronted the guy.
What I'm questioning isn't whether it could have happened. It's that the story itself, the way she relates it, seems to have some inconsistencies and features that make me question it.
I don't get not going batshit on the guy, either. Urg.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:25:29 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-vyktoriah/what-happened-when-my-son-wore-a-pink-headband-to-walmart_b_3696113.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
No. I just smell something funky.
I mean, the lady posted this on her blog. It's not like anyone else saw it happen, and she didn't report it to Wal-Mart or the police, so there's no incentive for anyone to pull the surveillance tape and look at it. Yet. Now that it's gotten so much play someone's bound to.
Most of those "tapes" are memory buffers with about a week's storage, these days, except for the cameras looking down on the registers.
So there probably won't be any film.
Ah.
So, yeah, it's just a story that may or may not be true.
I know that if that happened to me I would be all "WHOA DID YOU SEE THAT?" and I would find an employee immediately, at the very least. I worked retail for 13 years, and while nothing like that ever happened, people were constantly tattling on each other and reporting weird shit and strange behavior in the store.
I can also see just going into shock and not saying anything and going home. But that's not really compatible with the "if you touch my child again I'll cut your hands off" statement, which seems remarkably self-possessed.
I dunno. Something probably happened. I'm just not very convinced that it happened the way she said it happened.
Some people come unglued hours after an incident ends. Some people come unglued immediately.
Some just flee, and come unglued the moment they're safe in their homes. I mean, you think about it, from a survival POV, she did everything right.
Which in itself gives me the hinkies.
But the thing is, the story might be true, on account of Texas.
But it might not be true, because as Nigel says, it doesn't feel true. And a lie in service to a cause is still a lie. The ends do not justify the means.
That all being said, I'm gonna go with "take her word for it because Texas" until something causes me to discredit it.
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response, I've had it a few times and I hate it want to move, but can't.
This is a fact.
I have a similar response. I stand there staring in horror like everyone else, but my hands are doing stuff with blunt objects. Which I imagine is a product of conditioning.
Yup. I was trained to stand there and space out to take...well, whatever they wanted to dish out. I have to fight that.
Added: Not necessarily disagreeing with you, Nige, you could be right.
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Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response, I've had it a few times and I hate it want to move, but can't.
This is a fact.
I have a similar response. I stand there staring in horror like everyone else, but my hands are doing stuff with blunt objects. Which I imagine is a product of conditioning.
Yup. I was trained to stand there and space out to take...well, whatever they wanted to dish out. I have to fight that.
Added: Not necessarily disagreeing with you, Nige, you could be right.
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-vyktoriah/what-happened-when-my-son-wore-a-pink-headband-to-walmart_b_3696113.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
Is it the religious rant, or her not going feral super mom on the jackass?
Mostly the not going feral mom part. The not reporting it, at least to Wal-Mart security. The outrage that, in a momentary encounter that had to have been difficult for bystanders even to parse, nobody stepped in to interfere, and nobody comforted her afterwards. The startlingly detailed description of the offender's clothes right down to his shoelaces, in a confrontation that could only have lasted seconds.
Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it all totally happened exactly as she reports. Maybe something very similar happened and she exaggerated the story for her blog. But something smells fake.
There is that, I'd be asking the security for the recording.
Though when someone does something that outrageous, it *does* have a tendency just to make you freeze in horror, or at least it does me and a lot of people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2489204/
You're probably familiar with the freeze response, I've had it a few times and I hate it want to move, but can't.
This is a fact.
I have a similar response. I stand there staring in horror like everyone else, but my hands are doing stuff with blunt objects. Which I imagine is a product of conditioning.
Yup. I was trained to stand there and space out to take...well, whatever they wanted to dish out. I have to fight that.
Added: Not necessarily disagreeing with you, Nige, you could be right.
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
Sans the blacking out part, probably better than having an out-of-body experience on the spot.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
I had a real good friend who came home from the Marines. And got called back twice to Afghanistan. And came back each time a little more . . . distant. He went boogedy and I haven't heard from him in over five years. So I kinda dig.
Sorry. I'll drop it.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
I had a real good friend who came home from the Marines. And got called back twice to Afghanistan. And came back each time a little more . . . distant. He went boogedy and I haven't heard from him in over five years. So I kinda dig.
Sorry. I'll drop it.
No need to be sorry. You weren't being offensive. I was just saying it ain't healthy to spend a lot of time imagining committing acts of violence. There's a reason people love war movies and gun camera footage. It's horrible.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
I had a real good friend who came home from the Marines. And got called back twice to Afghanistan. And came back each time a little more . . . distant. He went boogedy and I haven't heard from him in over five years. So I kinda dig.
Sorry. I'll drop it.
No need to be sorry. You weren't being offensive. I was just saying it ain't healthy to spend a lot of time imagining committing acts of violence. There's a reason people love war movies and gun camera footage. It's horrible.
I can barely stomach watching the training videos for combat lifesaver training, which is highly concerning.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
I had a real good friend who came home from the Marines. And got called back twice to Afghanistan. And came back each time a little more . . . distant. He went boogedy and I haven't heard from him in over five years. So I kinda dig.
Sorry. I'll drop it.
No need to be sorry. You weren't being offensive. I was just saying it ain't healthy to spend a lot of time imagining committing acts of violence. There's a reason people love war movies and gun camera footage. It's horrible.
I can barely stomach watching the training videos for combat lifesaver training, which is highly concerning.
What is it that gives you the problem?
And is there a way to desensitize yourself to it?
Since there are dead people at my job, I actually went ahead and made sure to look if I needed to do something in the prep area and there was a cadaver. The first time it was very jarring, and I decided I did not want to be jarred.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 03, 2013, 04:45:47 AM
I was trained to black out and beat the shit out of whoever started dishin'. So many fun ways to respond less than beneficially.
I'm not going to talk about what I was trained to do. Coyote already has a good idea, even if he was a REMF, and not too many of the rest of you would understand. Nigel probably would, on account of her family.
And, plainly stated, it isn't good to think about this sort of shit much, no matter what your background is. Shit happens, you deal with it. Everything else is just talking shit and raging for applause (even if the applause is just your own, in your own head).
I had a real good friend who came home from the Marines. And got called back twice to Afghanistan. And came back each time a little more . . . distant. He went boogedy and I haven't heard from him in over five years. So I kinda dig.
Sorry. I'll drop it.
No need to be sorry. You weren't being offensive. I was just saying it ain't healthy to spend a lot of time imagining committing acts of violence. There's a reason people love war movies and gun camera footage. It's horrible.
I can barely stomach watching the training videos for combat lifesaver training, which is highly concerning.
What is it that gives you the problem?
And is there a way to desensitize yourself to it?
Since there are dead people at my job, I actually went ahead and made sure to look if I needed to do something in the prep area and there was a cadaver. The first time it was very jarring, and I decided I did not want to be jarred.
I'm going to cut you some slack instead of tearng you a new fucking asshole.
Again, pissing someone off without meaning to.
I didn't intend to just be a douche, but I've succeeded anyway.
Fuck.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-vyktoriah/what-happened-when-my-son-wore-a-pink-headband-to-walmart_b_3696113.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Well that didn't take long.
I'm not 100% convinced it actually happened.
You think it was staged or something?
No. I just smell something funky.
I mean, the lady posted this on her blog. It's not like anyone else saw it happen, and she didn't report it to Wal-Mart or the police, so there's no incentive for anyone to pull the surveillance tape and look at it. Yet. Now that it's gotten so much play someone's bound to.
Most of those "tapes" are memory buffers with about a week's storage, these days, except for the cameras looking down on the registers.
So there probably won't be any film.
Ah.
So, yeah, it's just a story that may or may not be true.
I know that if that happened to me I would be all "WHOA DID YOU SEE THAT?" and I would find an employee immediately, at the very least. I worked retail for 13 years, and while nothing like that ever happened, people were constantly tattling on each other and reporting weird shit and strange behavior in the store.
I can also see just going into shock and not saying anything and going home. But that's not really compatible with the "if you touch my child again I'll cut your hands off" statement, which seems remarkably self-possessed.
I dunno. Something probably happened. I'm just not very convinced that it happened the way she said it happened.
Some people come unglued hours after an incident ends. Some people come unglued immediately.
Some just flee, and come unglued the moment they're safe in their homes. I mean, you think about it, from a survival POV, she did everything right.
Which in itself gives me the hinkies.
But the thing is, the story might be true, on account of Texas.
But it might not be true, because as Nigel says, it doesn't feel true. And a lie in service to a cause is still a lie. The ends do not justify the means.
That all being said, I'm gonna go with "take her word for it because Texas" until something causes me to discredit it.
Yeah, Texas. :x
But when my kid was two, his dad backhanded him and the next thing I knew I was trying to rip his face off his skull with my hands. No conditioning, never done that before or since, and I'm normally a blunt object person and I THINK first, if only for a split second. I'm pretty sure the mom thing is hardwired.
I think it largely depends on the personality of the mother involved. I very much doubt that my initial and immediate reaction would be violence, on account of intense self-conditioning since I was tiny to be non-violent, no matter who did what to me or mine.
The disconnect for me, as I said before, was that she immediately confronted the guy - ie. not frozen - then somehow apparently completely forgot about that and went into freeze reaction. All in under a minute. And then was evidently angry at the other shoppers for neither intervening, nor comforting her afterwards. A man "verbally and physically assaulted" her son, she says, and NOBODY DID A THING. Outrage! How could they just stand by and watch this terrible thing happen, and DO NOTHING?
But a couple days later, when people are urging her to call Walmart for the CCTV footage and press charges, suddenly it wasn't that big of a deal. He meant to be friendly. He cuffed her son as one might pat a dog on the head. Suddenly, it wasn't assault, it was a well-meaning stranger who merely made a social gaffe.
That and her extraordinary amount of observation about his clothing and shoes just sounds... inconsistent. Unlike the way people really react in real situations.
I don't doubt that she had a real altercation of some kind. But I think the reason she didn't go to Walmart is more likely because things didn't go down exactly as she said in her blog entry. It's only been 4 days. She could still get that footage. I'm not saying that she should, but I am saying that if it isn't worth it to her to generate a potential landmark case that could raise awareness and deter future jackasses from gay-shaming toddlers in Walmart, then I don't see much justification for the outrage in her OP, just a raft of hypocritical attention-whoring.
I mean, go to her blog and read it for yourself: hxxp://www.amotherthing.com/
It's all "IT'S AN OUTRAGE! UNACCEPTABLE! WHYIOUGHTTA!!!" and then when given an opportunity to do something about it, following up with "never mind it's not that big a deal".
Ah, yeah I see it now.
Yes. She gets EVERYBODY'S attention and then it's all "never mind, it's really no big deal..." :x
Not to sound like a CREEPY INTERNET STALKER, but I have been curious about this story so I've been following up on her blog.
She has now taken down her blog, for two reasons:
Reason 1. The internet has threatened her with pizza delivery and she was forced to file a police report
Reason 2. (issued shortly after reason 1) Her server is overwhelmed with traffic so she had to take the blog offline.
It appears, from reading her blog, that she is extremely unstable, an attention whore, and a pathological liar.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lpWUO0Vc8owJ:amotherthing.com/2012/06/depression-suicide-love-and-redemption/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1CVbVmBxSm0J:amotherthing.com/2011/11/page/2/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Piece of work.
Yesterday:
QuoteA Mother Thing
12 minutes ago
Unfortunately I have had to take down the site and the twitter feed for a while. I can't cope, and I am now getting phone calls at home and threats of pizza deliveries to my house because our personal information has been posted online. I thank everyone for your support, but I can no longer discuss this online. I will be contacting the sheriff immediately to figure out how to protect my family from this and further issues. Thank you.[/center]
Today:
QuoteA Mother Thing is currently experiencing an overwhelming level of traffic and has shut down the servers. I have put the site in maintenance mode for a little while so that I can get it back up and running..
Please try back again soon.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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It appears, from reading her blog, that she is extremely unstable, an attention whore, and a pathological liar.
From her blog entry:
QuoteAfter my hospitalisation, I was finally diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, which explains my inappropriate anger, my impulsiveness, and my self-harm. There is no cure, there is no real treatment other than talking about it, which I am loathe to do.
About that, she's wrong. DBT seems to work pretty well for borderlines...and doesn't necessarily involve plumbing your neuroses.
I don't know about the pathological liar...Note that her suicide attempt was, well, in the middle of a marriage falling apart.
But I know I would have pressed charges had some asshole messed with my child.
As far as self-injury goes, this is a very good book about the phenomenon:
http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Red-Scream-Self-Mutilation-Language/dp/0140280537
Not asserting a position.
...Noting the judgmental attitude...
You're not going to be working one-on-one with clients when you graduate, right?
Um, even if Nigel WAS going to be working one-to-one with people after graduation (my understanding is that she is not), then I'd assume her "bedside manner" would be very different than "discussing things on PD".
Wow.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 05, 2013, 02:43:24 AM
Um, even if Nigel WAS going to be working one-to-one with people after graduation (my understanding is that she is not), then I'd assume her "bedside manner" would be very different than "discussing things on PD".
...I say this as a mental health consumer who goes through various agencies...
There are a number of people in both psych and medical fields who are perfectly professional...
but have disdain, or a presupposition of inferiority for their clientele...and the attitude shines through.It's not fun to be on the wrong side of the desk of someone who thinks this.
Not least because such people tend to assume you're a special sort of idiot and disregard what you say, or they don't bother to explain themselves fully, because they believe you're too stupid to grasp it.
I'm sure Nigel's about to go off on me royally for saying anything, but fuck it.
And maybe I'm just totally wrong, of course.
I *think* she measures everyone by the Nigel.
Nigel's obviously very strong, and very smart, and very courageous.
So a lot of people fall short of her.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 05, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
a mental health consumer
That's a new phrase on me.
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And maybe I'm just totally wrong, of course.
You are.
QuoteI *think* she measures everyone by the Nigel.
I think you're nursing some butthurt.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 05, 2013, 02:40:26 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 05, 2013, 01:04:18 AM
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lpWUO0Vc8owJ:amotherthing.com/2012/06/depression-suicide-love-and-redemption/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
It appears, from reading her blog, that she is extremely unstable, an attention whore, and a pathological liar.
From her blog entry:
QuoteAfter my hospitalisation, I was finally diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, which explains my inappropriate anger, my impulsiveness, and my self-harm. There is no cure, there is no real treatment other than talking about it, which I am loathe to do.
About that, she's wrong. DBT seems to work pretty well for borderlines...and doesn't necessarily involve plumbing your neuroses.
I don't know about the pathological liar...Note that her suicide attempt was, well, in the middle of a marriage falling apart.
But I know I would have pressed charges had some asshole messed with my child.
As far as self-injury goes, this is a very good book about the phenomenon:
http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Red-Scream-Self-Mutilation-Language/dp/0140280537
Not asserting a position.
...Noting the judgmental attitude...
You're not going to be working one-on-one with clients when you graduate, right?
Oh, just fuck right off. The "pathological liar" came directly from her blog, where she says it about herself.
I'm sorry you have had bad experiences, Hylie, but I'll remind you of two things: One, this is not a clinical setting, this is a bunch of people shooting the shit on the internet. Two, yes I was being judgmental: I was judging the likelihood of her blog post about her two-year-old being assaulted by a redneck homophobe in Walmart, and based on the available evidence and her own words, I judged it to be unlikely to be true. That would be an appropriate and correct use of judgment.
And an aside; casting aspersions on another person's professionalism when you clearly know nothing at all about their career goals or personal background just makes you look like an ass with a raft of butthurt you're eager to unload on the first available target. Please don't make comments like that toward me again. You have been asked nicely.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 05, 2013, 05:30:58 AM
a mental health consumer
Please, please tell me you're not actually
adopting this kind of speech.
Jesus.
I am a Person, not a "Consumer." I am a Citizen, not a "Government Services Customer." I expect to have input into public discourse. To have my voice heard and my vote counted. I am not here just to benefit from or be a victim of public policy. Likewise I am not simply a carbon-based trash can whose sole purpose for existence is the consumption of resources. If, from my admittedly privileged perspective, I can say I am honestly offended by anything in this toxic waste dump we call the 21st Century, it is that I am literally considered (and language now refers to me as) the Human equivalent of a bottom feeder.
Sorry to post so off-topic but this kind of speech really sets me off.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 05, 2013, 05:30:58 AM
a mental health consumer
Please, please tell me you're not actually adopting this kind of speech.
Jesus.
I am a Person, not a "Consumer." I am a Citizen, not a "Government Services Customer." I expect to have input into public discourse. To have my voice heard and my vote counted. I am not here just to benefit from or be a victim of public policy. Likewise I am not simply a carbon-based trash can whose sole purpose for existence is the consumption of resources. If, from my admittedly privileged perspective, I can say I am honestly offended by anything in this toxic waste dump we call the 21st Century, it is that I am literally considered (and language now refers to me as) the Human equivalent of a bottom feeder.
Sorry to post so off-topic but this kind of speech really sets me off.
Mental health =/= Cheetos
(tm)
All else aside, I am in complete agreement that "mental health consumer" is my all-time least favorite euphemism. I'm pretty OK with good old-fashioned "patient", I find "client" to be perfectly serviceable, and I am fine with "person who uses mental health services", but FFS please, "consumer" in all its permutations makes me think of WHAT THE WORD ACTUALLY MEANS, something that consumes at one end and shits at the other. Gobbling up services and shitting money.
No, thanks.
Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan. So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense.
Quote from: The End on August 06, 2013, 12:32:49 AM
Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan. So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense.
I think the term "consumer" refers to a person who receives and uses goods or services, not necessarily a person who pays for them. It's still a disgusting term with ugly connotations though, either way.
Also I do not have one of these "Cadillac insurance plans" I keep hearing about, but my plan does cover mental illness up to and including inpatient psychiatric hospitalization. It also pays 100% after my deductible.
Consider yourself lucky. A lot of plans won't provide adequate coverage.
If it isn't randumb, it's hindend coming along.
Quote from: V3X on August 06, 2013, 12:40:53 AM
Quote from: The End on August 06, 2013, 12:32:49 AM
Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan. So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense.
I think the term "consumer" refers to a person who receives and uses goods or services, not necessarily a person who pays for them. It's still a disgusting term with ugly connotations though, either way.
Also I do not have one of these "Cadillac insurance plans" I keep hearing about, but my plan does cover mental illness up to and including inpatient psychiatric hospitalization. It also pays 100% after my deductible.
Yeah, it means "one who consumes", but in the US it is used to mean "buyer" so frequently that in
my mind it's really hard to separate the two. I just see a giant mindless intestine with a mouth.
OM NOM NOM NOM
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02144/wormMouthOpen2_2144128i.jpg)
By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to advise you to never, ever, ever google image search "worm mouth". Just don't do that.
Nicely called, Nigel
http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/
QuoteGOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:
"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."
Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.
The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.
Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
Nicely called, Nigel
http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/
QuoteGOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:
"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."
Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.
The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.
Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."
Now I REALLY feel bad for that kid. :x
But Nigel has an ace bullshit detector.
When Nigel is properly installed, bullshit cannot reach the rotating parts of the equipment. Failure to install or improper installation of Nigel will result in bullshit reaching the internal components, as well as potentially lethal butthurt on the part of the operations department, heel-digging, and spurious claims of authority from random internet whackadoos.
- From the instruction manual.
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
Nicely called, Nigel
http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/
QuoteGOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:
"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."
Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.
The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.
Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."
Ah, thanks for posting this, Cain!
I have a pretty good bullshit detector, and all the little sirens were going off with this one. Good to have that validated.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 05:00:56 PM
When Nigel is properly installed, bullshit cannot reach the rotating parts of the equipment. Failure to install or improper installation of Nigel will result in bullshit reaching the internal components, as well as potentially lethal butthurt on the part of the operations department, heel-digging, and spurious claims of authority from random internet whackadoos.
- From the instruction manual.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: stelz on August 08, 2013, 04:48:03 PM
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
Nicely called, Nigel
http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/
QuoteGOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:
"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."
Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.
The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.
Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."
Now I REALLY feel bad for that kid. :x
But Nigel has an ace bullshit detector.
If only my ability to judge character wasn't inversely proportionate to my ability to detect bullshit, I'd be SET. :lol:
Huffpo was deleting all comments that questioned the veracity of the story, and now the whole thing has been removed:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/p/editors-note-incident-blog-removed.html
Wonder what the odds are that they'll post a retraction after it's confirmed to have been false?
I was going to say none...but given the kind of ad revenue they could pull for such a statement, it could be quite possible that they'd do it.
+1 Nigel!
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
I was going to say none...but given the kind of ad revenue they could pull for such a statement, it could be quite possible that they'd do it.
Hmmm, good point.
And then they can delete all the comments on the retraction that point out that they were deleting all the comments questioning the original article.
Fucking Huffpo.
And then they can post an apology for doing that. Endless streams of revenue!
Best business model ever.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 08, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
I was going to say none...but given the kind of ad revenue they could pull for such a statement, it could be quite possible that they'd do it.
Hmmm, good point.
And then they can delete all the comments on the retraction that point out that they were deleting all the comments questioning the original article.
Fucking Huffpo.
Huffpo is skating uncomfortably close to TCC.
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
And then they can post an apology for doing that. Endless streams of revenue!
Best business model ever.
:lulz:
Quote from: stelz on August 08, 2013, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 08, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: Carlos Danger on August 08, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
I was going to say none...but given the kind of ad revenue they could pull for such a statement, it could be quite possible that they'd do it.
Hmmm, good point.
And then they can delete all the comments on the retraction that point out that they were deleting all the comments questioning the original article.
Fucking Huffpo.
Huffpo is skating uncomfortably close to TCC.
Arianna is a New Age looney who has a distinct liking for authoritarian (and possibly murderous) cult leaders, and expects writers to work for her for no pay.
So the only difference is one of scale, really.
The whole thing was a farce? That's hysterical.