NH GoP state House Speaker wants to remove voting rights from college students..

[Don Coyote]

...that's actually a Teabagger plank, I believe, Luna.  I know they've at least suggested as much.

Along with the disenfranchisement of Active Duty Service Members because of that. We don't deserve to vote or have a voice in the government because we signed our lives away.

This is the exact reason I signed for my kid to enlist early.

He needs to understand how things actually work, and there's no teacher like a term in the service.

One of the best fucking educations you can get.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

...that's actually a Teabagger plank, I believe, Luna.  I know they've at least suggested as much.

Along with the disenfranchisement of Active Duty Service Members because of that. We don't deserve to vote or have a voice in the government because we signed our lives away.

This is the exact reason I signed for my kid to enlist early.

He needs to understand how things actually work, and there's no teacher like a term in the service.

One of the best fucking educations you can get.

Oh, yes.  If you pay attention in class, you will be left with precisely no illusions. 

[Luna]

Fighting the stupid?  King Canute?  Is that YOU?   

Nah, more railing against, and trying to keep other people (one in particular springs to mind) from being stupid.  (We're talking "forgetting to breathe" stupid, here.)  Didn't work.  Never works.

[Disco Pickle]

Much like Federal agencies, no matter how inept.

Unlike, say, corporations.

Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, Enron (and Arthur Anderson), E.F. Hutton, Lionel Corp., TWA, MCI Worldcom, AMC, Woolworth.

[Disco Pickle]

"If you think this is JUST a joke, well, by God, you'll never get the punchline."
- Ken DeVries

It's not that, PS.  It's just that you have the wrong values.  You believe the wrong things.

I know, we've had this discussion before.  I don't have time at the moment to delve back into it.  I haven't dismissed it, just have a lot on my plate at the moment.  I can't even keep up with this thread at the moment, so I'm going to step out of it and go back to work.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

vs

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Corporations of the United States against all smudgy people who don't want our "help", foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the CEO of United Fruit/Standard Oil/Halliburton and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as interpreted by horrible old Nazis in the Pentagon and the justice department. And not be Gay.  So help me Baby Jesus."

[The Good Reverend Roger]

"If you think this is JUST a joke, well, by God, you'll never get the punchline."
- Ken DeVries

It's not that, PS.  It's just that you have the wrong values.  You believe the wrong things.

I know, we've had this discussion before.  I don't have time at the moment to delve back into it.  I haven't dismissed it, just have a lot on my plate at the moment.  I can't even keep up with this thread at the moment, so I'm going to step out of it and go back to work.

See?  This is exactly what I'm talking about.

[Don Coyote]

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

vs

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Corporations of the United States against all smudgy people who don't want our "help", foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the CEO of United Fruit/Standard Oil/Halliburton and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as interpreted by horrible old Nazis in the Pentagon and the justice department. And not be Gay.  So help me Baby Jesus."

Would it be wrong to print up re-enlistment certificates with the second quote and mix them in with the S1 supplies?

[Luna]

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

vs

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Corporations of the United States against all smudgy people who don't want our "help", foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the CEO of United Fruit/Standard Oil/Halliburton and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as interpreted by horrible old Nazis in the Pentagon and the justice department. And not be Gay.  So help me Baby Jesus."

Would it be wrong to print up re-enlistment certificates with the second quote and mix them in with the S1 supplies?

Yes.  Yes it would.  It was also be as funny as hell, if you could do it without getting busted.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

vs

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Corporations of the United States against all smudgy people who don't want our "help", foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the CEO of United Fruit/Standard Oil/Halliburton and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as interpreted by horrible old Nazis in the Pentagon and the justice department. And not be Gay.  So help me Baby Jesus."

Would it be wrong to print up re-enlistment certificates with the second quote and mix them in with the S1 supplies?

If you can pull it off without accidentally Bradley Manning.   

[Disco Pickle]

"If you think this is JUST a joke, well, by God, you'll never get the punchline."
- Ken DeVries

It's not that, PS.  It's just that you have the wrong values.  You believe the wrong things.

I know, we've had this discussion before.  I don't have time at the moment to delve back into it.  I haven't dismissed it, just have a lot on my plate at the moment.  I can't even keep up with this thread at the moment, so I'm going to step out of it and go back to work.

See?  This is exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm doing what I love doing, designing.  Take issue with it and say it doesn't fit in with Discordia all you want.  I still love it and will do it as long as it's fun.  If it ever stops being fun, I'll stop doing it.

-Pickle: REALLY out this time.  check back in a few hours.

[Suu]

it's really just a horrible idea.  Kind of hard to believe it's being pushed in New Hampshire of all places. 

No it's not. Freestaters are horrible fucking people.

Pros about NH: No sales tax, income tax or excise tax, state run liquor stores that carry EVERYTHING at a discount, fireworks year round. Pretty to look at.

Cons about NH: Obnoxiously rich, gun-toting, psycho-Libertarians on one end of the spectrum, and extreme poor disgusting degenerates living off of welfare and dodging MA taxes on the other...sometimes also gun toting psycho-Libertarians.  Lots and lots of snow.

Live Free or Die, motherfuckers!

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

Stupid voters ruining democracy!!!

[Juana]

Hey, we could take it back to when only landowners got a vote, I suppose...

My stepfather, a Tea Bagger in denial, has suggested as much. I pointed out that I'd loose the right to vote and he just shrugged. I should really remind him that he spent a good portion of his adult life (and most of my parents' marriage) renting. That is, when he wasn't living on a base someplace.

Average taxpayers in college towns, he said, are having their votes "diluted or entirely canceled by those of a huge, largely monolithic demographic group . . .

As if students don't pay the same taxes as everyone else. And if that were true, why is my area still horrifically Republican? We have a large-ish university here, yet McCain took both districts effortlessly.

[Jasper]

Maybe it has something to do with the callous and cynical way they form arguments that takes advantage of people's biases.

Why aren't we doing it?